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DRKS1D3 · 09-02-2016, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stacy

Um, I am having deja vu I think?

Can we not just copy and paste the one from last month here?

F the fleet sale stories. It's lube for the stockholders.
F the price. Although it is higher, dealers are offing them a LOT cheaper than MSRP.
F the chassis change. It's actually better than the Gen5.

People simply do NOT like the body style changes. That's it. Nothing more to say. Even if it was the price, if they liked the body, they'd pay it.

Move along now.... nothing more to see here.

JMHO

Inflation is one thing, a massive increase is another. My 2011 2SS stickered for ~44-45k. The same exact car in a 2016 model, stickers for ~$53k. Most won't be able to justify that much of a jump in price. Price is playing a huge factor, as well as the appearance. Also, think of the people that are not loyal to GM. A brand new Challenger Scat Pack can be bought for ~$40-41k. The same can be said about a Mustang GT from Ford. It's like '02 all over again. GM priced themselves out of the market and ultimately, out of the pony car wars.

arkentect · 09-02-2016, 09:58 AM

This right here is why I'm not buying one.

http://www.hoselton.com/new/Chevrole...0d28159449.htm

Why on earth does a base model, 4cyl, automatic, with no external options or interior tech cost $30k. And with the huge drop in 5th Gen value there's no trade-in value either to cut that cost. And if you want a V6 base model its 4k more? I mean for $34k I could buy a 5th Gen SS and have enough money left over to supercharge it.

redcoats1976 · 09-02-2016, 11:39 AM

this is why i bought my certified used 2015 RS.i paid a whole bunch less than i would have for the base 2016 and got the 6 cylinder,leather interior,mylink,etc. with it,plus the previous owner ate about 10,000 bucks worth of depreciation...

camaro2lt-15 · 09-02-2016, 11:47 AM

I almost forgot the color choices on Gen 6 suck there's no orange or green lame!!!!!

TommyTheCat · 09-02-2016, 11:54 AM

Aren't Corvette sales suffering also? I think they were down roughly the same amount.

Hopefully this gets fixed so GM doesn't lose either car anytime in the near future

Welker2 · 09-02-2016, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyTheCat

Aren't Corvette sales suffering also? I think they were down roughly the same amount.

Hopefully this gets fixed so GM doesn't lose either car anytime in the near future

Corvette sales are up both over last month and August 2015 ... http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevr...sales-numbers/

redcoats1976 · 09-02-2016, 02:42 PM

hmmm...maybe people figure for that kind of money they might as well get a corvette.i walked by a whole slew of new/used vettes to get to my camaro but had already had a 2006 pontiac solstice for 3 years and was ready for something with 4 seats and a real trunk...

Mr. Stacy · 09-02-2016, 06:29 PM

I see a brand new, 2016 1SS for 30K, and a 2SS for 31.5K

https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...rchSource=SORT

4510 · 09-03-2016, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gino_7

The front looks great but they should've had improved halo's instead. The rear is just horrific, the lights do not match the car at all in my opinion. And don't even get me started about the position of the RS/SS badge.

Strange... I dislike the front with a passion. The lower opening looks like the mouth on a baleen whale. The upper opening and lower opening are so different in size. YUCK!

PDXSSCE · 09-03-2016, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 4510

Strange... I dislike the front with a passion. The lower opening looks like the mouth on a baleen whale. The upper opening and lower opening are so different in size. YUCK!

I absolutely love the lower opening. I think the rounded lower openings on either side of it are awful. I also don't like the headlight treatment.

myold88 · 09-03-2016, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ssrs2lt

What????? The camaro is not selling? Why?

I read an article yesterday listing the 10 new cars that depreciate the most in
their first year. The new Camaro was right up there at 39% depreciation from
MSRP. This alone will keep me from buying a new Camaro.
They stated there are two main reasons for this:

1) The popularity of the new Mustang.
2) People are not liking the new 6th gen styling.

PDXSSCE · 09-03-2016, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by myold88

I read an article yesterday listing the 10 new cars that depreciate the most in
their first year. The new Camaro was right up there at 39% depreciation from
MSRP. This alone will keep me from buying a new Camaro.
They stated there are two main reasons for this:

1) The popularity of the new Mustang.
2) People are not liking the new 6th gen styling.

Please post the link. I'm not doubting you, I simply wish to read the article.
I also wonder if the failed 6th generation will stabilize 5th generation prices.

myold88 · 09-03-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

Please post the link. I'm not doubting you, I simply wish to read the article.
I also wonder if the failed 6th generation will stabilize 5th generation prices.

Just tried to find it but can't. If you google "depreciating cars" there's sure enough
articles on this but again I can't locate the one I saw here a couple days ago.
I did see on a couple lists and the Impala was right up there along with many of the
electric cars. If I find it i'll let you know.

arkentect · 09-03-2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stacy

I see a brand new, 2016 1SS for 30K, and a 2SS for 31.5K

https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...rchSource=SORT

Thats because in 3months they will be considered used, and currently like mentioned above the depreciation in the first year is 39%

09-02-2016, 09:58 AM	#44
arkentect Drives: 2010 Camaro SGM 1LT M6 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,630	This right here is why I'm not buying one. http://www.hoselton.com/new/Chevrole...0d28159449.htm Why on earth does a base model, 4cyl, automatic, with no external options or interior tech cost $30k. And with the huge drop in 5th Gen value there's no trade-in value either to cut that cost. And if you want a V6 base model its 4k more? I mean for $34k I could buy a 5th Gen SS and have enough money left over to supercharge it. __________________ Arkentect's Build Thread!! - UPSTATE C5 MEMBER 2010 SGM M6 1LT - SOLD Current - 2009 C6 Corvette Z51

09-02-2016, 06:29 PM	#50
Mr. Stacy El Duderino Drives: 2011 2LTRS Convertible Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,194 View My Garage	I see a brand new, 2016 1SS for 30K, and a 2SS for 31.5K https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...rchSource=SORT __________________ I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.

09-02-2016, 11:39 AM	#45
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 5,032	this is why i bought my certified used 2015 RS.i paid a whole bunch less than i would have for the base 2016 and got the 6 cylinder,leather interior,mylink,etc. with it,plus the previous owner ate about 10,000 bucks worth of depreciation...

09-02-2016, 11:47 AM	#46
camaro2lt-15 Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT/RS SGM Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Kettering Ohio 45420 Posts: 95	I almost forgot the color choices on Gen 6 suck there's no orange or green lame!!!!!

09-02-2016, 11:54 AM	#47
TommyTheCat SHKE BKE Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,105	Aren't Corvette sales suffering also? I think they were down roughly the same amount. Hopefully this gets fixed so GM doesn't lose either car anytime in the near future

09-02-2016, 02:42 PM	#49
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 5,032	hmmm...maybe people figure for that kind of money they might as well get a corvette.i walked by a whole slew of new/used vettes to get to my camaro but had already had a 2006 pontiac solstice for 3 years and was ready for something with 4 seats and a real trunk...