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Briguys10SS · 02-10-2017, 05:46 PM

Last moved my 2SS sunday 2/5/2017, tonight went to start it up I got this message and three lights on the dash i'll describe them the best I can. 1 is the car with tire marks behind it, 2, T/C and 3, car with tire marks OFF, (no check engine) along with a long cranking startup. this just started now. after having for the past month never had this come up. letting it sit isn't helping. however, the three times or so that i have driven it was fine. The temps been cold the last couple days, didn't test the battery yet, will check plug and plug wires as well. it has a cold air intake installed, car came with a tuner so i'm not sure what that's set at. funny thing is i took it home on a pretty cold day and had no problems. wonder what is going on...

RenegadeXR · 02-10-2017, 06:08 PM

Low charge on the battery. All other dash alerts including the Stabiitrak warning are a side effect of different sensors not coming up quickly enough because the car is struggling to crank.

If you haven't replaced your factory battery yet, it's time. It has a limited number of charge and discharge cycles.

Candr3535 · 02-10-2017, 06:09 PM

Happen to me last month. LOW BATTERY

Olddudesrule · 02-10-2017, 06:45 PM

Test the battery's resting voltage after it's sat overnight. If it's anything below 12.3-12.4 volts, you're probably looking at buying another battery. These cars are finicky about having full charged batteries, and will do all kinds of crap that doesn't seem battery related when it's not. Many thing that since the battery is supposed to be around 12.6 when full, 12.2 or 12.3 isn't bad. In fact it's well undercharged. Seems counter-intuitive, I know.

On a side note, use a Battery Tender or like if you're not already. Helps keep them alive and well longer.

BMWW · 02-10-2017, 06:46 PM

This happens to me too, but I just replaced the battery and double checked wires, nothing is loose. I still get the message.

Briguys10SS · 02-10-2017, 06:48 PM

Alright I had a feeling the battery is starting to let go, noticed in the beginning it had a long cranking cycle on start up. The battery looks like its the original Acdelco probably from the factory and here we are in 2017 LOL. Took it for a spin down the block feels like it running on all 8 cylinders, only has 41,146 miles on it, parked it, went to restart and had a REALLY long crank and almost didn't want to start back up.

Spec · 02-10-2017, 07:28 PM

How many miles on your ride?

This started happening to me at about 90k... I have 103k now.

... so I replaced the battery. Well, the car was still slow to crank and one day, I did a very slow crank and all the bells and whistles came on. Car almost didn't start, but then I shut it down immediatly, waited a few minutes, then started it again... slow to crank, but started and all the lights went away.

So, then I was worried, what the heck... it wasn't the battery because I'm still starting up slow/lazy. So then, I replaced the starter. That fixed the slow crank. Now it cranks quick and strong, and with a powerful roar... but soon after I began to have lighting issues. My side markers wouldn't come on... my passenger side tail lights would not come on. Troubleshooted for a while and I couldn't figure out what the problem was...

So I took it in to a shop nearby that specialized in electrical. They told me it was the BCM that was going out. 600 dollars later (450 parts/150 labor), that was that. All lighting works perfectly, car cranks strong, and it feels good no longer having these issues.

Good luck with yours... hopefully its not the BCM in your case, and perhaps just need a new starter.

Also I should mention that you could also have a grounding issue. Search the web for your cars' grounding points and check all.

Briguys10SS · 02-10-2017, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec

How many miles on your ride?

This started happening to me at about 90k... I have 103k now.

... so I replaced the battery. Well, the car was still slow to crank and one day, I did a very slow crank and all the bells and whistles came on. Car almost didn't start, but then I shut it down immediatly, waited a few minutes, then started it again... slow to crank, but started and all the lights went away.

So, then I was worried, what the heck... it wasn't the battery because I'm still starting up slow/lazy. So then, I replaced the starter. That fixed the slow crank. Now it cranks quick and strong, and with a powerful roar... but soon after I began to have lighting issues. My side markers wouldn't come on... my passenger side tail lights would not come on. Troubleshooted for a while and I couldn't figure out what the problem was...

So I took it in to a shop nearby that specialized in electrical. They told me it was the BCM that was going out. 600 dollars later (450 parts/150 labor), that was that. All lighting works perfectly, car cranks strong, and it feels good no longer having these issues.

Good luck with yours... hopefully its not the BCM in your case, and perhaps just need a new starter.

Also I should mention that you could also have a grounding issue. Search the web for your cars' grounding points and check all.

41,146 is what I have for mileage, all lights seem to be working like they should, i have installed an amp, with inline breaker fuse type thing 200amp was given to me from my coworker when I bought his old setup, also i have a capacitor as well, grounded to the body. only thing I did when doing the install was take the nut off on the positive to hook up the amp. Once everything was done had no immediate lights or warnings things seemed normal. This done last Sunday when I last started and moved the car. The battery itself could be as old as 8 years, carfax had no service history on the battery. will have to test the battery and go from there. Just freaking out on why all of a sudden the service stabilitrak comes up with three lights.

jshaf · 02-10-2017, 07:57 PM

yep sounds like a battery starting to die

Briguys10SS · 02-11-2017, 10:13 AM

Well... tested the battery this morning, 11.32... so a battery indeed. hopefully this clears up the Service stabilitrak?

Olddudesrule · 02-11-2017, 11:02 AM

I'm betting it will! Way to troubleshoot it!

mydreamcar · 02-11-2017, 06:04 PM

Def will, my car sits a lot in the winter, was getting all sorts of weird pops , service stabilitrack, 2 keys programmed msg, and a few others, took the battery out , its good but discharging was at 11.3. Luckily the battery was under warrenty so it was replaced for free, . I wish I could install a battery tender but my car is on the street and their is no way to run a extension cord on the sidewalk without someone screwing with it.

Briguys10SS · 02-11-2017, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mydreamcar

Def will, my car sits a lot in the winter, was getting all sorts of weird pops , service stabilitrack, 2 keys programmed msg, and a few others, took the battery out , its good but discharging was at 11.3. Luckily the battery was under warrenty so it was replaced for free, . I wish I could install a battery tender but my car is on the street and their is no way to run a extension cord on the sidewalk without someone screwing with it.

Oh i hear you there, same thing, its just sitting in the cold which sucks, was originally a VA and NC car but somehow made it up to VT and now NY, this is its very first cold winter too. Will find out when i go and get the new battery and will pickup a second tender. Since there is no engine light and other warnings besides stabilitrak it should be back to normal. That i also saw was two keys programmed as well

Briguys10SS · 02-12-2017, 10:20 AM

Another battery check this morning 11.21v yep, its definitely time for a new one. once these damn snowstorms quit...

02-10-2017, 05:46 PM	#1
Briguys10SS Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Peru, NY Posts: 34 View My Garage	Service Stabilitrak?? Long cranking Last moved my 2SS sunday 2/5/2017, tonight went to start it up I got this message and three lights on the dash i'll describe them the best I can. 1 is the car with tire marks behind it, 2, T/C and 3, car with tire marks OFF, (no check engine) along with a long cranking startup. this just started now. after having for the past month never had this come up. letting it sit isn't helping. however, the three times or so that i have driven it was fine. The temps been cold the last couple days, didn't test the battery yet, will check plug and plug wires as well. it has a cold air intake installed, car came with a tuner so i'm not sure what that's set at. funny thing is i took it home on a pretty cold day and had no problems. wonder what is going on...

02-10-2017, 06:09 PM	#3
Candr3535 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Triple Black Vert M6 #5591 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Galloway,NJ Posts: 747 View My Garage	Happen to me last month. LOW BATTERY __________________ 695 RWHP / 660 RWTQ @ 13.5 PSI Dyna-Tech Headers Ceramic Coated w/Super Flo Cats, JRE Custom Rough Idle Racing Cam Package and 125 RWHP Pulley Kit w/ 28% pulley, Custom Tune by Ted, ID850 injectors, JMS Fuel Booster, NGK Plugs, MSD Plug Wires, Roto-Fab CAI, Roto-Fab Big Gulp, Elite Catch Can, Mild to Wild, 90mm VMaxx Ported Throttle Body, Skip Shift Elim., D3 Coolant Resevoir, Separated Clutch Resevoir, and Fuzzy Red Dice..

02-10-2017, 06:45 PM	#4
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	Test the battery's resting voltage after it's sat overnight. If it's anything below 12.3-12.4 volts, you're probably looking at buying another battery. These cars are finicky about having full charged batteries, and will do all kinds of crap that doesn't seem battery related when it's not. Many thing that since the battery is supposed to be around 12.6 when full, 12.2 or 12.3 isn't bad. In fact it's well undercharged. Seems counter-intuitive, I know. On a side note, use a Battery Tender or like if you're not already. Helps keep them alive and well longer. __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.

02-10-2017, 06:48 PM	#6
Briguys10SS Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Peru, NY Posts: 34 View My Garage	Alright I had a feeling the battery is starting to let go, noticed in the beginning it had a long cranking cycle on start up. The battery looks like its the original Acdelco probably from the factory and here we are in 2017 LOL. Took it for a spin down the block feels like it running on all 8 cylinders, only has 41,146 miles on it, parked it, went to restart and had a REALLY long crank and almost didn't want to start back up. Last edited by Briguys10SS; 02-10-2017 at 06:50 PM. Reason: clearing up

02-10-2017, 07:57 PM	#9
jshaf Montani Semper Liberi Drives: 2011 Black 2SS/RS w/ IOM stripes Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Masontown, WV Posts: 4,841	yep sounds like a battery starting to die __________________ Stainless Works 1 7/8 Long Tude Headers, Stainless Works High Flow Cats, Stainless Works Retro Chambered Catback, Z/28 Air Intake, RDP Tuned, FR41 Chrome Rims, 1100W stereo, 35% Tint

02-10-2017, 06:08 PM	#2
RenegadeXR Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,850	Low charge on the battery. All other dash alerts including the Stabiitrak warning are a side effect of different sensors not coming up quickly enough because the car is struggling to crank. If you haven't replaced your factory battery yet, it's time. It has a limited number of charge and discharge cycles.

02-10-2017, 06:46 PM	#5
BMWW Emerald Archer Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Synergy Green Metallic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Nevada Posts: 217	This happens to me too, but I just replaced the battery and double checked wires, nothing is loose. I still get the message.

02-10-2017, 07:28 PM	#7
Spec Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,018	How many miles on your ride? This started happening to me at about 90k... I have 103k now. ... so I replaced the battery. Well, the car was still slow to crank and one day, I did a very slow crank and all the bells and whistles came on. Car almost didn't start, but then I shut it down immediatly, waited a few minutes, then started it again... slow to crank, but started and all the lights went away. So, then I was worried, what the heck... it wasn't the battery because I'm still starting up slow/lazy. So then, I replaced the starter. That fixed the slow crank. Now it cranks quick and strong, and with a powerful roar... but soon after I began to have lighting issues. My side markers wouldn't come on... my passenger side tail lights would not come on. Troubleshooted for a while and I couldn't figure out what the problem was... So I took it in to a shop nearby that specialized in electrical. They told me it was the BCM that was going out. 600 dollars later (450 parts/150 labor), that was that. All lighting works perfectly, car cranks strong, and it feels good no longer having these issues. Good luck with yours... hopefully its not the BCM in your case, and perhaps just need a new starter. Also I should mention that you could also have a grounding issue. Search the web for your cars' grounding points and check all.

02-11-2017, 10:13 AM	#10
Briguys10SS Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Peru, NY Posts: 34 View My Garage	Well... tested the battery this morning, 11.32... so a battery indeed. hopefully this clears up the Service stabilitrak?

02-11-2017, 11:02 AM	#11
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	I'm betting it will! Way to troubleshoot it! __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.

02-11-2017, 06:04 PM	#12
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	Def will, my car sits a lot in the winter, was getting all sorts of weird pops , service stabilitrack, 2 keys programmed msg, and a few others, took the battery out , its good but discharging was at 11.3. Luckily the battery was under warrenty so it was replaced for free, . I wish I could install a battery tender but my car is on the street and their is no way to run a extension cord on the sidewalk without someone screwing with it. __________________ CAI intake/ADM Scoop/Stainless Power Headers/Dynatech cat back exhaust/Vitesse Throttle Control/ Ported Throttle Body/QTP Electric Cutouts/ 3.91 gears and janetty rear posi/ Tuned by Janetty racing

02-12-2017, 10:20 AM	#14
Briguys10SS Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Peru, NY Posts: 34 View My Garage	Another battery check this morning 11.21v yep, its definitely time for a new one. once these damn snowstorms quit...