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frenchsquared · 02-20-2017, 11:09 AM

Took the Z28 to an open lap day at Pueblo Motorsports Park. Not a bad turn out. I think there were 16 cars and over 30 bikes that started. Two GT4's, C5 z06 Track set up, Gen5 ZL1, and an assortment of others.

First... WOW... this car is basically perfect bone stock. I am amazed at how well it did right off the showroom floor. I will be changing the brake fluid and going to the track alignment just because I want to.

When I first got there 2 or 3 guys noticed the car and came to check it out. Most just thought it was a Camaro with some upgrades. The two GT4 cars new what it was.

but after the first session... new game...

Pretty much every other driver came to see that car as well as a lot of bikes. I had two guys tell me they had to come see the car when they saw it actually pull away from the GT4's in the straights. yep... I guess I actually pulled on them.

Next I had a group of 3 guys come over to ask all about the car. They had no idea what a Z28 was and thought a ZL1 was the top dog. One of them was in a lotus. Asked all about my line. How many years I had been driving, what was my best lap, and what all mods did I have on the car. He could not believe the brakes we stock. He tried several times to follow my lines but could not keep up. Was blown away by how fast the car was. Said I had him by 10 seconds.

My 1996 Z51 on R7's ran a 1:56. Nice warm day. This day was only about 60 and I ran 2 1:46's in the Z28. I am sure there is a more in the car. First day in the car, sport mode 3, 2nd time on that track, yes there is more in the car.

I knew 1 of the GT4's which makes this an even better day. He is an instructor for PCA and does a lot, a lot of driving events. Well for a few laps I could see him in my mirror. Never close enough to pass but he was there. I was in traffic and every time I would get behind someone he would clearly gain some ground. Well I decided to slow down and let him by so I could follow him for while. Thought it would be fun. First turn I was on his ass... I had to brake early to not hit him and get on the gas late cause he was in the way. He never pulled at all. Second turn again I was slower then usual. He was a little high and actually lost grip and slide off the track. I was lower and had plenty of power to hold the corner and blew past him on the inside. The Z28 held the corner better and with more speed then his GT4 that day. He was fine, just slide off and was right back on. Wreck two turns ahead of us ended the session.

I can not wait to play with more GT4's. I finally have a car that will corner, brake and accelerate with them. In the past they have always been better at something.

It is very possible the Z28 was the fastest car there that day. The 2nd GT4 was fun to pass but it was a new car. First day on track in that car so not fair to compare. Although it was my first day as well.

The down side of the day is the C5 Zo6 lost it on the first lap of the first session. Slid on a corner and nailed a wall. Destroyed the front end. 3rd session the ZL1 lost it and hit the tires. Nose came off and all air bags deployed. I did not get to play with either of them before this happened.

They are the reason I staid in track mode 3. The track mode was fighting me and does keep the car safer. I know I can pick up speed with a higher track mode.

I did slide around in the seat as others have. I am only 5'10" and 150lbs. I was sliding around and will be looking at options to fix that in a few months. Want to play more. I like the Trofeo tires but I am use to R7's. I cannot wait to get new R7's on this car.

The gas tank is way to small. I took 10 gallons extra knowing it was small and still did not have enough to make the 5th session. Im going to guess it takes about 8 gallons per 20 min session. I do not run out of gas in the Corvettes. Both of them can do 1 full day.

I have some footage from a go pro and will try to go over that today and get it online.

Thanks for reading.

flipstyledsm22 · 02-20-2017, 11:28 AM

Great read! Glad you are having a blast and kicking ass!

sherob · 02-20-2017, 11:44 AM

Sweet!

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 02-20-2017, 11:45 AM

You will need some gas cans, we bring 6x5 Gal with us, that will hold 2 cars till lunch and then we go fill them, one more thing you may want to get some additive for octane, i like the extra power when you run 93+ not this 91 out west.

AG454 · 02-20-2017, 11:50 AM

Sounds like a blast.

z28rox · 02-20-2017, 12:13 PM

Since the driver of the GT4 car was a PCA instructor I am assuming he was driving a Porsche was it a 997 or Cayman?

frenchsquared · 02-20-2017, 12:50 PM

I thought they were 911 so I guess 997. I will find a picture in a min
The Green one is below. This is the new on, first day or second day. The other GT4 was white but is the same car.

L99CAMA2011 · 02-20-2017, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frenchsquared

It was not a Caymen. I thought they were 911 so I guess 997. I will find a picture in a min

The Green one is below. This is the new on, first day or second day. The other GT4 was white but is the same car.

GT4s are Caymans. Just under 390hp.

Supercup · 02-20-2017, 01:08 PM

GT4 is top dog of the Cayman line up. It has 991 3.8L motor - 385 hp - 6 speed, same brakes and suspension as GT3. Best Cayman ever!

I have both the GT4 and the Z - they are both great cars - the GT4 is a scalpel while the Z is more of a hammer. The GT4, when set up correctly will out handle the Z due to lower weight and CG, but the Z will make it back up on the straights and on corner exits. So overall a very good match up.

GT4 Specs:
ENGINE TYPE:
DOHC 24-valve flat-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection

Displacement:
232 cu in, 3800 cc
Power: 385 hp @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 309 lb-ft @ 4750 rpm

TRANSMISSION:
6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:

Wheelbase: 97.8 in
Length: 174.7 in
Width: 71.5 in Height: 49.8 in
Curb weight: 3050 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:

Zero to 60 mph: 4.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.0 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 22.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 6.8 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 6.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.3 sec @ 117 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr's est): 183 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 151 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.01 g

All2Easy · 02-20-2017, 01:20 PM

Nice! Well done OP!

frenchsquared · 02-20-2017, 01:56 PM

Thanks for the info on the Porsche. I can ramble on about Corvettes but I don't know much about Porsche. I know if its a GT3 or GT4 its a bad ass car.

KaBoom1701 · 02-20-2017, 01:57 PM

Well done. Enjoy the read.

The Z/28 is a sweet track car. Enjoy and welcome to HPDE's!

Olddudesrule · 02-20-2017, 02:01 PM

The track is an addictive place! I too loved mine stock, but the track also brings out the mods in us! Coil overs going in today

frenchsquared · 02-20-2017, 02:12 PM

I kinda made a video... I will get better at videos, care more about driving.

02-20-2017, 11:09 AM	#1
frenchsquared Drives: 15 Z28, 01 Corvette, 96 Corvette Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 863	First Track Day! WOW!!! Took the Z28 to an open lap day at Pueblo Motorsports Park. Not a bad turn out. I think there were 16 cars and over 30 bikes that started. Two GT4's, C5 z06 Track set up, Gen5 ZL1, and an assortment of others. First... WOW... this car is basically perfect bone stock. I am amazed at how well it did right off the showroom floor. I will be changing the brake fluid and going to the track alignment just because I want to. When I first got there 2 or 3 guys noticed the car and came to check it out. Most just thought it was a Camaro with some upgrades. The two GT4 cars new what it was. but after the first session... new game... Pretty much every other driver came to see that car as well as a lot of bikes. I had two guys tell me they had to come see the car when they saw it actually pull away from the GT4's in the straights. yep... I guess I actually pulled on them. Next I had a group of 3 guys come over to ask all about the car. They had no idea what a Z28 was and thought a ZL1 was the top dog. One of them was in a lotus. Asked all about my line. How many years I had been driving, what was my best lap, and what all mods did I have on the car. He could not believe the brakes we stock. He tried several times to follow my lines but could not keep up. Was blown away by how fast the car was. Said I had him by 10 seconds. My 1996 Z51 on R7's ran a 1:56. Nice warm day. This day was only about 60 and I ran 2 1:46's in the Z28. I am sure there is a more in the car. First day in the car, sport mode 3, 2nd time on that track, yes there is more in the car. I knew 1 of the GT4's which makes this an even better day. He is an instructor for PCA and does a lot, a lot of driving events. Well for a few laps I could see him in my mirror. Never close enough to pass but he was there. I was in traffic and every time I would get behind someone he would clearly gain some ground. Well I decided to slow down and let him by so I could follow him for while. Thought it would be fun. First turn I was on his ass... I had to brake early to not hit him and get on the gas late cause he was in the way. He never pulled at all. Second turn again I was slower then usual. He was a little high and actually lost grip and slide off the track. I was lower and had plenty of power to hold the corner and blew past him on the inside. The Z28 held the corner better and with more speed then his GT4 that day. He was fine, just slide off and was right back on. Wreck two turns ahead of us ended the session. I can not wait to play with more GT4's. I finally have a car that will corner, brake and accelerate with them. In the past they have always been better at something. It is very possible the Z28 was the fastest car there that day. The 2nd GT4 was fun to pass but it was a new car. First day on track in that car so not fair to compare. Although it was my first day as well. The down side of the day is the C5 Zo6 lost it on the first lap of the first session. Slid on a corner and nailed a wall. Destroyed the front end. 3rd session the ZL1 lost it and hit the tires. Nose came off and all air bags deployed. I did not get to play with either of them before this happened. They are the reason I staid in track mode 3. The track mode was fighting me and does keep the car safer. I know I can pick up speed with a higher track mode. I did slide around in the seat as others have. I am only 5'10" and 150lbs. I was sliding around and will be looking at options to fix that in a few months. Want to play more. I like the Trofeo tires but I am use to R7's. I cannot wait to get new R7's on this car. The gas tank is way to small. I took 10 gallons extra knowing it was small and still did not have enough to make the 5th session. Im going to guess it takes about 8 gallons per 20 min session. I do not run out of gas in the Corvettes. Both of them can do 1 full day. I have some footage from a go pro and will try to go over that today and get it online. Thanks for reading. __________________ 2018 Sierra RCSB \| 2015 Z28 Camaro \| 1989 B2200 with a 327 \| 1996 LT4 Z51 Corvette \| 1973 427 Nova

02-20-2017, 11:28 AM	#2
flipstyledsm22 Let's go fishing! Drives: a car with 8 cylinders Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Seabrook, Texas Posts: 1,129 View My Garage	Great read! Glad you are having a blast and kicking ass! __________________ "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I’ve never tried before." Mae West 1892-1980

02-20-2017, 11:44 AM	#3
sherob Drives: 2015 SW 1SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Brighton, CO Posts: 2,736	Sweet! __________________ “The Eagles and the Captain and Tennille ruled the airwaves, and we were the answer to it.” - Joey Ramone

02-20-2017, 11:50 AM	#5
AG454 I am not "Fast & Furious" Drives: 2010 Camaro LSX454 1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greeley Colorado Posts: 1,040 View My Garage	Sounds like a blast. __________________ The day I take a bend too fast Judgement that could be my last I'll be wiped right off the slate Don't wait up 'cause I'll be late, I'll be late

02-20-2017, 12:50 PM	#7
frenchsquared Drives: 15 Z28, 01 Corvette, 96 Corvette Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 863	I thought they were 911 so I guess 997. I will find a picture in a min The Green one is below. This is the new on, first day or second day. The other GT4 was white but is the same car. __________________ 2018 Sierra RCSB \| 2015 Z28 Camaro \| 1989 B2200 with a 327 \| 1996 LT4 Z51 Corvette \| 1973 427 Nova Last edited by frenchsquared; 02-20-2017 at 01:54 PM.

02-20-2017, 11:45 AM	#4
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,728 View My Garage	You will need some gas cans, we bring 6x5 Gal with us, that will hold 2 cars till lunch and then we go fill them, one more thing you may want to get some additive for octane, i like the extra power when you run 93+ not this 91 out west.

02-20-2017, 12:13 PM	#6
z28rox Drives: 2015 Camaro Z/28 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Out west Posts: 68	Since the driver of the GT4 car was a PCA instructor I am assuming he was driving a Porsche was it a 997 or Cayman?

02-20-2017, 01:08 PM	#9
Supercup Life Is Short Enjoy It! Drives: Former Owner 15 Z/28 #934 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: S. Cal Posts: 897	GT4 is top dog of the Cayman line up. It has 991 3.8L motor - 385 hp - 6 speed, same brakes and suspension as GT3. Best Cayman ever! I have both the GT4 and the Z - they are both great cars - the GT4 is a scalpel while the Z is more of a hammer. The GT4, when set up correctly will out handle the Z due to lower weight and CG, but the Z will make it back up on the straights and on corner exits. So overall a very good match up. GT4 Specs: ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 24-valve flat-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection Displacement: 232 cu in, 3800 cc Power: 385 hp @ 7400 rpm Torque: 309 lb-ft @ 4750 rpm TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual DIMENSIONS: Wheelbase: 97.8 in Length: 174.7 in Width: 71.5 in Height: 49.8 in Curb weight: 3050 lb C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 4.1 sec Zero to 100 mph: 9.0 sec Zero to 150 mph: 22.9 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 6.8 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 6.0 sec Standing ¼-mile: 12.3 sec @ 117 mph Top speed (drag limited, mfr's est): 183 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 151 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.01 g Attached Images Last edited by Supercup; 02-20-2017 at 01:54 PM.

02-20-2017, 01:20 PM	#10
All2Easy Drives: 2015 Z/28 #997 Gone 2019 SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 91	Nice! Well done OP!

02-20-2017, 01:56 PM	#11
frenchsquared Drives: 15 Z28, 01 Corvette, 96 Corvette Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 863	Thanks for the info on the Porsche. I can ramble on about Corvettes but I don't know much about Porsche. I know if its a GT3 or GT4 its a bad ass car. __________________ 2018 Sierra RCSB \| 2015 Z28 Camaro \| 1989 B2200 with a 327 \| 1996 LT4 Z51 Corvette \| 1973 427 Nova

02-20-2017, 01:57 PM	#12
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,631	Well done. Enjoy the read. The Z/28 is a sweet track car. Enjoy and welcome to HPDE's! __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

02-20-2017, 02:01 PM	#13
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	The track is an addictive place! I too loved mine stock, but the track also brings out the mods in us! Coil overs going in today __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.