Z/28 in Transport

[Snoman]

Originally Posted by no1ce

I think a z28 is off the table at this point..I have really made my decision and going for 5gen 1le. Even so, its proving to be just as hard to find in my area.

With a 8-1/2 month old and no family near by to help, I cant bring myself to leave my wife with the little guy to travel somewhere to pick up a toy. lol

With the 2 model year or older rule when trading- is it up to the selling dealer to let it go at wholesale?

thanks!

There is a 10% premium in the NW you can avoid easily by getting on a plane and many reputable Camaro clubs, sponsors and connections across the country that can assist with purchasing site unseen. If it's in Texas, I probably know someone who can put their hands on it. Reality sets in at some point hopefully, a $1,600 shipping charge is worth it's weight in gold if it prevents you from putting 2k miles on the car and leaving the wife and newborn for a 3 day weekend.

2 year old models generally cannot be traded. There is a huge misconception regarding who owns 'inventory', it's generally not GM and within the first 24 months dealers need to play by the allocation rules. After 2 years, the dealer has purchased the vehicle for inventory and taken a gamble they can sell the car. Said dealer can transfer it to a sister franchise if there is one, but across county or even state lines is likely not happening.

The debut of the Z/28 is now 4 years old with delivery right at 3 years old. They are a dime a dozen at the $40-42k level with low mileage (5k) pushing $45k and extremely low mileage (<1k) still under $49k.

Knowing how haphazard the 5th Gen came into existence and knowing that in two years this will all become moot with the 6.5 Gen Z release, you couldn't give me a 5th Gen Z.

[frenchsquared]

Originally Posted by Snoman

Knowing how haphazard the 5th Gen came into existence and knowing that in two years this will all become moot with the 6.5 Gen Z release, you couldn't give me a 5th Gen Z.

That is a little harsh. There is still no proof there is going to a 2018 Z28. Even if there is doubt the current Z28 will drop a lot more. You know the new one will be $80,000 or more. I know I could sell my Z28 for more then I paid for it.

[frenchsquared]

Originally Posted by The_Raging_Bull

its a cheap insurance to keep your car looking good. And it glistens.

It is pretty, but there is nothing cheap about it. Most people spend less on a paint job then that level of clear bra will cost.

[Snoman]

Originally Posted by frenchsquared

That is a little harsh. There is still no proof there is going to a 2018 Z28. Even if there is doubt the current Z28 will drop a lot more. You know the new one will be $80,000 or more. I know I could sell my Z28 for more then I paid for it.

The next version will be available for the 2019 model year, should debut in about 12 months and available for order next summer under current timelines.

[Supercup]

Originally Posted by Snoman

The next version will be available for the 2019 model year, should debut in about 12 months and available for order next summer under current timelines.

Lots of speculation out there, but no facts posted by GM to date, so unless you work there - this continues to be just speculation.

[Snoman]

Originally Posted by Supercup

Lots of speculation out there, but no facts posted by GM to date, so unless you work there - this continues to be just speculation.

Correct on GM and there won't be any direct press releases for a year. Closest public "proof" I'll offer is the GT4 program, though not directly related. Feel free to dismiss the notion though or don't or take it with a grain of salt in deciding to drop $40k+ on a 5 year old platform. My sources are not speculative though and they will also never be revealed.

[LateBrakeU2]

Originally Posted by Snoman

There is a 10% premium in the NW you can avoid easily by getting on a plane and many reputable Camaro clubs, sponsors and connections across the country that can assist with purchasing site unseen. If it's in Texas, I probably know someone who can put their hands on it. Reality sets in at some point hopefully, a $1,600 shipping charge is worth it's weight in gold if it prevents you from putting 2k miles on the car and leaving the wife and newborn for a 3 day weekend.

2 year old models generally cannot be traded. There is a huge misconception regarding who owns 'inventory', it's generally not GM and within the first 24 months dealers need to play by the allocation rules. After 2 years, the dealer has purchased the vehicle for inventory and taken a gamble they can sell the car. Said dealer can transfer it to a sister franchise if there is one, but across county or even state lines is likely not happening.

The debut of the Z/28 is now 4 years old with delivery right at 3 years old. They are a dime a dozen at the $40-42k level with low mileage (5k) pushing $45k and extremely low mileage (<1k) still under $49k.

Knowing how haphazard the 5th Gen came into existence and knowing that in two years this will all become moot with the 6.5 Gen Z release, you couldn't give me a 5th Gen Z.

Actually in the last month or so the inventory of new is down to less than ten or so,and the clean low mile one's are getting sucked up very quickly(even black one's that account for 3 out of five listed) Makes sense there will be a gen 6Z, but it won't be NA and how much different really will it be from a ZL1 1LE? Gen 5 Z's are the best bang for buck out there for under 50k, but it simply amazes me how the 350R can pull 25k over window still..typical chevy non brand loyal customers.

[Snoman]

The Z/28 moniker will only ever badge a NA platform and generally speaking, there isn't much farther one could take a "ZLE" except to be even more track focused with newer technology and wider creature comfort options. Think of the 911 model with 13 different 'platforms'. Track focused though, you are correct in that it is the best bang for the buck under $50k.

The Ford fan base support is warranted though, offering decades of special limited edition serialized models, hype and supported sales, collectors go nuts. GM doesn't care because of profits, refuses to use proper VIN registration or much less use VIN serialization for most models. While they may offer a particular model in a limited open production run (date limited), anyone can purchase who wants one which of course devalues the vehicles.

[LateBrakeU2]

Originally Posted by Snoman

The Z/28 moniker will only ever badge a NA platform and generally speaking, there isn't much farther one could take a "ZLE" except to be even more track focused with newer technology and wider creature comfort options. Think of the 911 model with 13 different 'platforms'. Track focused though, you are correct in that it is the best bang for the buck under $50k.

The Ford fan base support is warranted though, offering decades of special limited edition serialized models, hype and supported sales, collectors go nuts. GM doesn't care because of profits, refuses to use proper VIN registration or much less use VIN serialization for most models. While they may offer a particular model in a limited open production run (date limited), anyone can purchase who wants one which of course devalues the vehicles.

Not really sure how they will get a Z non FI motor emissions compliant and produce #"s that #s weenies will have to have, unless it's a track only model like a COPO. GM has the best engineers, worst front office. They release the Z and then the Z06 on it's heels then wonder why they are still on lot's three years later. They are really going to need to get it together with the next one, and not like in a Z4C sticker and tape job gen 4 that sent the camaro whimpering in to hibernation for eight years.