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Vega · 09-25-2009, 03:08 PM

Glad to see this discussion finally caught, haha, im a big fan of the LS7 cause i much preffer N/A cars, if i wanted to make my car faster by using forced induction id by a ricer, not a muscle car, i dont care if its supercharging or turbo charging, thats my oppinion

Also, yeah the LSA might have had tons of hours testing with no failure, but the LS7 is hand-built with forged internals, thats gotta account for somethin, the LSA is built on a line just like the LS3, hell even the LS9 has forged internals and all, id just rather see the more well-crafted engine in it...GM may have said its on its way out, but just like the discussion about Z/28s themselves, announcements matter none in the relm of supply and demand =D

ShnOmac · 09-25-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vega

Also, yeah the LSA might have had tons of hours testing with no failure, but the LS7 is hand-built with forged internals, thats gotta account for somethin,

Yep more cost and manhours....

Probably why we will be seeing the LSA or some unkown enginge!

*Milk 1027* · 09-25-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vega

Glad to see this discussion finally caught, haha, im a big fan of the LS7 cause i much preffer N/A cars, if i wanted to make my car faster by using forced induction id by a ricer, not a muscle car, i dont care if its supercharging or turbo charging, thats my oppinion

Also, yeah the LSA might have had tons of hours testing with no failure, but the LS7 is hand-built with forged internals, thats gotta account for somethin, the LSA is built on a line just like the LS3, hell even the LS9 has forged internals and all, id just rather see the more well-crafted engine in it...GM may have said its on its way out, but just like the discussion about Z/28s themselves, announcements matter none in the relm of supply and demand =D

GM never said the Z28 was out of the question.

and you call technological advances ricer?

*GTAHVIT* · 09-25-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

GM never said the Z28 was out of the question.

and you call technological advances ricer?

ZR1 and CTS V are ricers too I guess.....

ShnOmac · 09-25-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

ZR1 and CTS V are ricers too I guess.....

Just curious....

Did you spontaneously combust while typing that?

Number 3 · 09-25-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shnomac77

Just curious....

Did you spontaneously combust while typing that?

I heard the "boom" all the way up here.

1320junkie · 09-25-2009, 03:31 PM

I love the LS7 and you can do tons to it if you know what you are doing...I like N/A cars..moreso than forced induction..but some of those are cool also

ShnOmac · 09-25-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

I heard the "boom" all the way up here.

*Milk 1027* · 09-25-2009, 03:34 PM

Just to clarify, I also like N/A engines over S/C, T/C engines.

But the reason why others such as myself don't like those engines, is for the fact that there is just more room to grow with an N/A engine.

*GTAHVIT* · 09-25-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Just to clarify, I also like N/A engines over S/C, T/C engines.

But the reason why others such as myself don't like those engines, is for the fact that there is just more room to grow with an N/A engine.

I'm not completely in agreement that there is more room to grow, but I see your point. The big trade off is compression ratio. I could take the blower off an engine built for boost and take the CR to over 11:1 and be right were a purpose built NA motor is. I really don't see any advantage to one over the other... Just different ways to get to the same result. Wicked Fast power producing beasts.

Number 3 · 09-25-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Just to clarify, I also like N/A engines over S/C, T/C engines.

But the reason why others such as myself don't like those engines, is for the fact that there is just more room to grow with an N/A engine.

I believe that the LS7 is"maxed out". Sure YOU can get more HP, but GM has to do it with an engine that is durable, reliable AND meets emission standards. Tough to get all 3 of those with HP too. The 427 is a true wonder in this regard.

PQ · 09-25-2009, 03:55 PM

Guess it needs points and a carb to not be ricer?

PQ · 09-25-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

I believe that the LS7 is"maxed out". Sure YOU can get more HP, but GM has to do it with an engine that is durable, reliable AND meets emission standards. Tough to get all 3 of those with HP too. The 427 is a true wonder in this regard.

1320junkie · 09-25-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

I'm not completely in agreement that there is more room to grow, but I see your point. The big trade off is compression ratio. I could take the blower off an engine built for boost and take the CR to over 11:1 and be right were a purpose built NA motor is. I really don't see any advantage to one over the other... Just different ways to get to the same result. Wicked Fast power producing beasts.

Just so YOU know..no matter what you do..I will have a NA camaro to beat you....see you've pissed of the Darkside...we rebuilt the Deathstar ..but the guy in your avatar is dead...dead and gone

09-25-2009, 03:34 PM	#597
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	Just to clarify, I also like N/A engines over S/C, T/C engines. But the reason why others such as myself don't like those engines, is for the fact that there is just more room to grow with an N/A engine. __________________

09-25-2009, 03:55 PM	#600
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	Guess it needs points and a carb to not be ricer? __________________

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09-25-2009, 03:08 PM	#589
Vega Drives: 91' Camaro RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 589 View My Garage	Glad to see this discussion finally caught, haha, im a big fan of the LS7 cause i much preffer N/A cars, if i wanted to make my car faster by using forced induction id by a ricer, not a muscle car, i dont care if its supercharging or turbo charging, thats my oppinion Also, yeah the LSA might have had tons of hours testing with no failure, but the LS7 is hand-built with forged internals, thats gotta account for somethin, the LSA is built on a line just like the LS3, hell even the LS9 has forged internals and all, id just rather see the more well-crafted engine in it...GM may have said its on its way out, but just like the discussion about Z/28s themselves, announcements matter none in the relm of supply and demand =D

09-25-2009, 03:31 PM	#595
1320junkie Drives: The Imperial Army Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Darkside Posts: 15,742	I love the LS7 and you can do tons to it if you know what you are doing...I like N/A cars..moreso than forced induction..but some of those are cool also