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Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

You do know s197 is a year older than zeta right?

Oh jeees, you're right. My mistake.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

So false... my car runs single digit 1/4 miles on the stock longblock, trans and rear axles. But it is true power will break things.

Hellcats would spit the driveshaft out if you put sticky tires on it.

In my experience Mustang owners just like changing parts on the car... needed or not that's why the aftermarket is so huge

Maybe you just got lucky. There are plenty that have had major engine failures nowhere near single digit ETs.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Mustang is lacking from the factory. I've driven multiple S550s and they just don't feel like a performance car. I wonder how the Ford Performance Track Handling Pack fixes things up (Only 1,300 smackaroos), but can't really find good reviews/comparisons for it. I know the street version is basically the PP with lower springs.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Maybe you just got lucky. There are plenty that have had major engine failures nowhere near single digit ETs.

Almost always from a bad tune or operator error. The 2011-2014 coyote can take 650-700whp tuned/ driven properly 2015+ much more

I didn't get a miracle motor, I just made sure it had a good tune and drove it intelligently

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Almost always from a bad tune or operator error. The 2011-2014 coyote can take 650-700whp tuned/ driven properly 2015+ much more

I didn't get a miracle motor, I just made sure it had a good tune and drove it intelligently

The engines can take a lot as can your 2013 solid axle. The half shafts in the 550 however typically can't and are somewhat fragile.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Almost always from a bad tune or operator error. The 2011-2014 coyote can take 650-700whp tuned/ driven properly 2015+ much more

I didn't get a miracle motor, I just made sure it had a good tune and drove it intelligently

Dude, come off it bro. I get it, you're a Mustang guy. But you're a bit too much. You really should be on a Mustang forum. It is not always from a bad tune. If You run single digit numbers on the stock long block, which I doubt, it is only because you're lucky. Ford did not build 9 second engines and then put them in high 12 second cars. Those engines are not that strong. All the work it would take to get into the 9s, plus all the launching, if you think that those engines are just magically built then you're out of your mind. And even if they are you'd have to worry about the trans and other components.

It takes a LOT of money to make a Mustang that fast. Heck it takes a lot of money just to get them on stock Camaro levels. And for the record, I've seen plenty of supercharged Mustangs at the track. For all that power they allegedly make they sure don't do any better than boosted Camaros on stock suspension/axles. You could slap a blower and a tire on a SS and run low 11s safely all day. Try that in a Mustang and something is gonna break.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Dude, come off it bro. I get it, you're a Mustang guy. But you're a bit too much. You really should be on a Mustang forum. It is not always from a bad tune. If You run single digit numbers on the stock long block, which I doubt, it is only because you're lucky. Ford did not build 9 second engines and then put them in high 12 second cars. Those engines are not that strong. All the work it would take to get into the 9s, plus all the launching, if you think that those engines are just magically built then you're out of your mind. And even if they are you'd have to worry about the trans and other components.

It takes a LOT of money to make a Mustang that fast. Heck it takes a lot of money just to get them on stock Camaro levels. And for the record, I've seen plenty of supercharged Mustangs at the track. For all that power they allegedly make they sure don't do any better than boosted Camaros on stock suspension/axles. You could slap a blower and a tire on a SS and run low 11s safely all day. Try that in a Mustang and something is gonna break.

ive seen plenty of coyotes go bottom 10's and break into 9's on the stock longblock... several personal friends have done it as well. Motors have been hurt and every time it was due to a crap tune from a poor tuner or stupidity on the part of the owner. This is not groundbreaking territory for a modern V8 and trans to handle 600+whp pretty sure any of the big 3's top line 8's can take some. power. Stop acting like Ford motors can't take it... it's horeshit

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

ive seen plenty of coyotes go bottom 10's and break into 9's on the stock longblock... several personal friends have done it as well. Motors have been hurt and every time it was due to a crap tune from a poor tuner or stupidity on the part of the owner. This is not groundbreaking territory for a modern V8 and trans to handle 600+whp pretty sure any of the big 3's top line 8's can take some. power. Stop acting like Ford motors can't take it... it's horeshit

Funny how every Mustang I see in the low 11s or faster is always on a built engine and/or trans. Those cars are not built like that. You might think they are. But those engines get blown sky high before getting into the 10s. And the ones that do get that fast take lots and lots of money to get there. If they were that easy to break into the 9s and 10s, then we'd have 9 and 10 second Mustangs everywhere. I haven't seen one break into the 10s on a stock block in years. It ain't happening. Those engines are not that strong.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Funny how every Mustang I see in the low 11s or faster is always on a built engine and/or trans. Those cars are not built like that. You might think they are. But those engines get blown sky high before getting into the 10s. And the ones that do get that fast take lots and lots of money to get there. If they were that easy to break into the 9s and 10s, then we'd have 9 and 10 second Mustangs everywhere. I haven't seen one break into the 10s on a stock block in years. It ain't happening. Those engines are not that strong.

With a minimal amount of searching you can find stock 2015+ motors making 800+whp. 650whp is considered the safe limit on a gen1 coyote... I make about 680 if you do the math. I could run e85 and make 750 but it's not safe and would require a fuel system. My buddy hurt the stock motor in his 2013 gt at around 10.0 (fueling issue) he swapped in a stock 2015 short block and the car goes low 9's at 147 (3900# race weight)

Whatever you may see in your neck of the woods is not what the motors are capable of

The 6r80 is basically bulletproof ... they really only make clutches and an intermediate shaft as far as aftermarket goes and those aren't needed til deep in the 9's. Cars have gone 8's on the stock trans

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Funny how every Mustang I see in the low 11s or faster is always on a built engine and/or trans. Those cars are not built like that. You might think they are. But those engines get blown sky high before getting into the 10s. And the ones that do get that fast take lots and lots of money to get there. If they were that easy to break into the 9s and 10s, then we'd have 9 and 10 second Mustangs everywhere. I haven't seen one break into the 10s on a stock block in years. It ain't happening. Those engines are not that strong.

Not on FastCarFanBoy's side or anything as he is clearly trolling.. but there are plenty of F/I coyotes out there on the stock block and trans in the 10's. If I were going to supercharge, I would have kept my stang.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

With a minimal amount of searching you can find stock 2015+ motors making 800+whp. 650whp is considered the safe limit on a gen1 coyote... I make about 680 if you do the math. I could run e85 and make 750 but it's not safe and would require a fuel system. My buddy hurt the stock motor in his 2013 gt at around 10.0 (fueling issue) he swapped in a stock 2015 short block and the car goes low 9's at 147 (3900# race weight)

Whatever you may see in your neck of the woods is not what the motors are capable of

The 6r80 is basically bulletproof ... they really only make clutches and an intermediate shaft as far as aftermarket goes and those aren't needed til deep in the 9's. Cars have gone 8's on the stock trans

Any videos to prove this?

Originally Posted by L99BEN

Not on FastCarFanBoy's side or anything as he is clearly trolling.. but there are plenty of F/I coyotes out there on the stock block and trans in the 10's. If I were going to supercharge, I would have kept my stang.

I have yet to see one. Mid 11s with a blower and supporting mods. The ones that have gone faster ended up blowing something. And it was't due to the tune.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Any videos to prove This

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-dQZj4SlM

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

With a minimal amount of searching you can find stock 2015+ motors making 800+whp. 650whp is considered the safe limit on a gen1 coyote... I make about 680 if you do the math. I could run e85 and make 750 but it's not safe and would require a fuel system. My buddy hurt the stock motor in his 2013 gt at around 10.0 (fueling issue) he swapped in a stock 2015 short block and the car goes low 9's at 147 (3900# race weight)

Whatever you may see in your neck of the woods is not what the motors are capable of

The 6r80 is basically bulletproof ... they really only make clutches and an intermediate shaft as far as aftermarket goes and those aren't needed til deep in the 9's. Cars have gone 8's on the stock trans

Fanboy,

You need to take your noise elsewhere. I mean what are you trying to prove on a CAMARO forum??

Once your point is made I guess we will all sell our camaros and buy mustangs

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-dQZj4SlM

Funny how that was over 2 years ago...engine blew since then??