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ABADZL1 · 08-09-2017, 09:18 PM

I spent hours on the gauges. They're cool. But for actual logging, I never use them. Lol

hammdo · 08-09-2017, 09:38 PM

All show, no go ;o)

-Don

QUICRNU · 08-09-2017, 10:15 PM

Yea I just hit space bar and let her rip....like I had posted in my thread...... i shaved .4 tenths off my time in 1 TnT session, No one can know your car as well as you!

hammdo · 08-09-2017, 11:06 PM

So true...

Finished logging for Dave -- want to make sure the pump module is working good...

Send him the log -- we'll find out!

Ryan will probably want to see it also, just so he has a record of the tune and the log file. He's been a busy guy here since Fest!

-Don

hammdo · 08-10-2017, 12:18 AM

So did a review of the logs and noticed Dave was trapping Total Knock Retard. The one thing that was consistent was as soon as I started WOT, TKR went up -- the highest was 11.5°.

I'll wait to see what I'm told, but I'm guessing this is a 'new' issue and would need to check for:

A) Bad Gas (I fill it up each time, so that is not likely)
B) False knock -- something hitting the frame (exhaust, oil cooler lines, something) and vibrating on the frame
C) Noisy valve train -- engine sound fantastic, I don't hear anything obvious.

I can tell the fueling is better based on Dave's selected config. I'm leaning to B -- Exhaust was welded, new fuel lines and they are near the Hotchkis. Headers could be it since they are near the sensor.

May need to add some fire-sleeve around those lines just to make sure. Then, check and see if the exhaust is possibly hitting the frame somewhere.

I'll see what Dave thinks first -- 11.5° of TKR is ALOT, (seems excessive) since I don't hear any noise in the engine....

-Don

hammdo · 08-10-2017, 12:27 AM

BTW, the E-85 cap works perfect! Does not throw any codes....

-Don

ABADZL1 · 08-10-2017, 07:15 AM

Burst knock maybe? Since you're logging total? That's usually what it is first going into pe.

I had to disable it on Sarah's car. It was around 12 also

hammdo · 08-10-2017, 07:38 AM

Ah, that makes sense....

Thanks Mark. I'll ck with Dave and Ryan.

-Don

hammdo · 08-10-2017, 08:43 AM

Mark, can you shoot me a pic of those settings?

Thanks!

-Don

ABADZL1 · 08-10-2017, 08:52 AM

Spark > Retard

hammdo · 08-10-2017, 09:14 AM

Thanks! Mine currently:

-Don

ABADZL1 · 08-10-2017, 09:22 AM

If you want to disable it. Zero out the mult ECT and mult IAT tables. I think that's what ended up working for me. Also make sure you are logging Burst Knock in your channels to make sure that's what it actually is.

hammdo · 08-10-2017, 09:50 AM

KR and Total KR is being logged. Only total is going up. KR is 0.

Thanks for the tip!

-Don

ABADZL1 · 08-10-2017, 09:56 AM

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08-09-2017, 09:18 PM	#1401
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,673 View My Garage	I spent hours on the gauges. They're cool. But for actual logging, I never use them. Lol __________________

08-09-2017, 09:38 PM	#1402
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	All show, no go ;o) -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-09-2017, 10:15 PM	#1403
QUICRNU Drives: Z06 wannabe Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 1,200	Yea I just hit space bar and let her rip....like I had posted in my thread...... i shaved .4 tenths off my time in 1 TnT session, No one can know your car as well as you! __________________ Apex Focused

08-09-2017, 11:06 PM	#1404
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	So true... Finished logging for Dave -- want to make sure the pump module is working good... Send him the log -- we'll find out! Ryan will probably want to see it also, just so he has a record of the tune and the log file. He's been a busy guy here since Fest! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-10-2017, 12:18 AM	#1405
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	So did a review of the logs and noticed Dave was trapping Total Knock Retard. The one thing that was consistent was as soon as I started WOT, TKR went up -- the highest was 11.5°. I'll wait to see what I'm told, but I'm guessing this is a 'new' issue and would need to check for: A) Bad Gas (I fill it up each time, so that is not likely) B) False knock -- something hitting the frame (exhaust, oil cooler lines, something) and vibrating on the frame C) Noisy valve train -- engine sound fantastic, I don't hear anything obvious. I can tell the fueling is better based on Dave's selected config. I'm leaning to B -- Exhaust was welded, new fuel lines and they are near the Hotchkis. Headers could be it since they are near the sensor. May need to add some fire-sleeve around those lines just to make sure. Then, check and see if the exhaust is possibly hitting the frame somewhere. I'll see what Dave thinks first -- 11.5° of TKR is ALOT, (seems excessive) since I don't hear any noise in the engine.... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-10-2017, 12:27 AM	#1406
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	BTW, the E-85 cap works perfect! Does not throw any codes.... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-10-2017, 07:15 AM	#1407
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,673 View My Garage	Burst knock maybe? Since you're logging total? That's usually what it is first going into pe. I had to disable it on Sarah's car. It was around 12 also __________________ Last edited by ABADZL1; 08-10-2017 at 07:30 AM.

08-10-2017, 07:38 AM	#1408
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	Ah, that makes sense.... Thanks Mark. I'll ck with Dave and Ryan. -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-10-2017, 08:43 AM	#1409
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	Mark, can you shoot me a pic of those settings? Thanks! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-10-2017, 08:52 AM	#1410
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,673 View My Garage	Spark > Retard __________________

08-10-2017, 09:14 AM	#1411
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	Thanks! Mine currently: -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-10-2017, 09:22 AM	#1412
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,673 View My Garage	If you want to disable it. Zero out the mult ECT and mult IAT tables. I think that's what ended up working for me. Also make sure you are logging Burst Knock in your channels to make sure that's what it actually is. __________________

08-10-2017, 09:50 AM	#1413
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	KR and Total KR is being logged. Only total is going up. KR is 0. Thanks for the tip! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

08-10-2017, 09:56 AM	#1414
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,673 View My Garage	Burst __________________