09-11-2017, 11:44 PM | #1 |
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Looking for Clutch Options...
I may be doing this the wrong way... But what clutch options do we have? I know centerforce has a monsterous clutch... But I am very sure I won't be able to afford 1300-1800 plus labor. Not sure I want to replace a twin disc the first time alone either.
That being said... Are there OEM options we have? Can you put a single in here and save some dough but still get the power you need? Is there an OEM replacement? Can us M6 guys use the zl1 clutch (sorry if its a dumbass question) AM I DOOMED TO DROP 2k-3k ON MY CLUTCH JOB?! :( Halp. Ty. |
09-12-2017, 08:29 AM | #2 |
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How much power are you making? My transmission is all stock. Last year I was 565rw (12k miles driven) and have been at 734rw for all of 2017 (5k miles driven) and haven't had a single problem. It'll go eventually, I know, but so far I don't really see the need for an aftermarket clutch. I don't know much about the 6th gen options yet but I've spoken to people who have gone with aftermarket setups over the years on various cars and they're never 100% perfect like OEM.
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09-12-2017, 11:58 AM | #3 |
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What about within the realm of OEM, what options do we have there?
I can't even seem to find the OEM replacement clutch kit available. I'm pushing about 630-650whp depending on the dyno I don't have any clutch issues whatsoever yet but the car has 23k miles. I'd like to be prepared to a certain degree |
09-12-2017, 12:19 PM | #4 |
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According to ThatGMPartsGuy website, the part numbers for the clutch pressure plate/disc are the only difference between the SS and ZL1. Same flywheel. My theory based on that information is that the ZL1 setup could be directly swapped to an SS. I don't know the difference in power holding capability between the two, but one could assume the ZL1 setup is a bit more beefy. It's also ~$13 cheaper than the SS setup, so that's a plus.
Edit: Slave & Master also share part numbers between SS and ZL1, so hydraulics are also the same.
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Hrmmm... Interesting that the flywheel is shared. My motor seems to take a bit longer to rev down than my buddy's 17 ZL1, we were thinking it was a flywheel difference. May be something else |
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09-12-2017, 04:03 PM | #6 |
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My guess would be the supercharger pulley added to the belt assembly slows the car down faster on rev down.
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09-12-2017, 04:20 PM | #7 |
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im also procharged so it may be that the bypass opens and the resistance drops, not sure
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09-13-2017, 07:46 PM | #8 |
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The real question is what type of driving do you do with the car? At your power level, the stock clutch could handle normal street driving and maybe even a road course event here and there, but if you're planning any more performance driving than that, it would be a good idea to look into an upgraded clutch.
The cost of a quality clutch may seem high, but a well-made unit will last a good number of years and stand up to a ton of abuse without leaving you stranded. The cheaper models often leave you with less-than-ideal pedal feel and can cost you more for labor in the long run if they fail prematurely. No need to be wary of installation-our DYAD twin-disk comes pre-assembled and is installed exactly the same as a stock clutch. If you have any questions about the DYAD system, please feel free to shoot us a PM or call anytime. We'd be glad to help!
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