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Old 11-27-2017, 02:45 PM   #1
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Help with understanding the '12-'15 ZL1

Sorry for the newb thread, but wanted to make sure I was understanding the difference in the years listed above. Basically the same car/platform for each year with the exception(s): '13 gained touch screen display + integrated nav via mylink & convertible ... then '14 added some cosmetic updates and Recaro's (as an option) ... '15 basically stayed the same as '14 minus Recaro's became standard and not "optioned in".

Please add-to or correct me if I'm wrong/missed something. These are the things I noticed as being different based on comparing the models and info found on the ZL1 Registry page.

I'm horrible for "newer MUST BE BETTER" mentality, but for all intents and purposes the '12-'15 are all basically the same car/platforms (performance, suspension, drivetrain)?? Yes? No?
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Old 11-27-2017, 03:03 PM   #2
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you summed up most of the differences, and i would agree that newer doesn't necessarily mean better in this case unless you're a fan of the 14-15 tail lights and recaros. you can get a 12-13 for significantly cheaper than a 14-15.
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Old 11-27-2017, 03:24 PM   #3
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you summed up most of the differences, and i would agree that newer doesn't necessarily mean better in this case unless you're a fan of the 14-15 tail lights and recaros. you can get a 12-13 for significantly cheaper than a 14-15.
That's kinda true lol ... prices for these cars are all over the place. Granted a listing price vs SELLING price are two VERY DIFFERENT things

Glad I wasn't missing something, but that is what I was concluding from what I could tell. The "bigger" problem (1st world problem) that I'm having is deciding from a '16-'17SS vs a 5th gen LZ1. They are basically all in the same price range and I like some of the features offered (tech wise) in the 6th gen, but I've seen a pretty consistent feeling that the 6gen feels like it has less livable space inside. This will be a DD (granted I only drive 2mi to work ), but I've got a 6yr old and 4yr old that are with me enough that it needs to be usable to keep momma on board with my little mid-life crisis
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:07 PM   #4
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That's kinda true lol ... prices for these cars are all over the place. Granted a listing price vs SELLING price are two VERY DIFFERENT things

Glad I wasn't missing something, but that is what I was concluding from what I could tell. The "bigger" problem (1st world problem) that I'm having is deciding from a '16-'17SS vs a 5th gen LZ1. They are basically all in the same price range and I like some of the features offered (tech wise) in the 6th gen, but I've seen a pretty consistent feeling that the 6gen feels like it has less livable space inside. This will be a DD (granted I only drive 2mi to work ), but I've got a 6yr old and 4yr old that are with me enough that it needs to be usable to keep momma on board with my little mid-life crisis
I sold my 16 1SS for my 13 ZL1 and have zero regrets...the 16SS was a really nice sports car, but the ZL1 is a lot more fun to drive and has a ton of room to grow with mods.

You're right on the livable space, and that was my main reason for the switch - my little man is in a rear-facing car seat and the small back seat of the '16 was infuriating trying to get him in and out. I don't think a forward facing would be a whole lot better. The 5th gen has far more livable space and I even sit back there with him sometimes when my wife drives it.

Only downside to the ZL1 is about 12 less MPG on the freeway...
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:01 PM   #5
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I sold my 16 1SS for my 13 ZL1 and have zero regrets...the 16SS was a really nice sports car, but the ZL1 is a lot more fun to drive and has a ton of room to grow with mods.

You're right on the livable space, and that was my main reason for the switch - my little man is in a rear-facing car seat and the small back seat of the '16 was infuriating trying to get him in and out. I don't think a forward facing would be a whole lot better. The 5th gen has far more livable space and I even sit back there with him sometimes when my wife drives it.

Only downside to the ZL1 is about 12 less MPG on the freeway...
thanks for the info...that's what I was hoping to find/read; someone that has experienced a similar situation. Not really concernced about the mpg b/c I only drive 2mi to work and my truck I currently have prolly gets the same/worse mpg and isn't NO WHERE near as fun . There's a local-ish lot that has a '12 ZL1 and either a '16SS or '17SS (can't remember) and I was going to try and crawl around in both. Would like to put my 6yr old in the back and see how he fits, but the boss is a little less enthused about spending a day at a car lot to satisfy my desire to play with used cars lol
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:18 PM   #6
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Looking for a 2013 ZL1 convertible, M6, 4100 miles, mint condition?
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:50 PM   #7
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Looking for a 2013 ZL1 convertible, M6, 4100 miles, mint condition?
wouldn't say it is out of the realm of possibilities for the right price...currently not "buying" until Feb/Mar (currently researching and window shopping), but you can PM me some pics/info and I can hold on to it until I'm ready to buy if you still have it then.

I will say you've got 2 strikes against you though...the boss isn't a white fan and doesn't know how to drive a manual. I've thought about teaching her, but she said she couldn't get it when she tried learning in a jeep several years ago & I can't imagine a more "forgiving" clutch/vehicle to learn on unless the clutch was bad hahaha
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:50 PM   #8
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The 14-15 models also get a color HUD and DIC which I like a lot better.
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Old 11-27-2017, 07:07 PM   #9
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I dont regret buying for 14. I prefer the look of the 14-15. Looks more retro IMO.
At the color HUD and DIC was a must for me. The recaros are probably the thing I love the most. I sat in both. Recaros all the way
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Old 11-27-2017, 07:14 PM   #10
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Bet the color display and recaros are nice, but the Red Rock Metallic that started in '14 has got to be my favorite color so far! Just don't see getting a '14 or '15 squeezed down from the $40s (where most '14-'15s are priced) to where the boss has approved my spending amount to be

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ink=true&Log=0

The way the color "changes" and has an orange look under the right angle and light....it's SHARP ... although I am pretty partial to blue being a Cats fan and all, but haven't seen one for sale with pics yet (that I can think of)
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Old 11-27-2017, 07:26 PM   #11
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I have a fully loaded 13 black automatic if you're interested as well =)
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Old 11-27-2017, 07:55 PM   #12
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I have a fully loaded 13 black automatic if you're interested as well =)
like I told "can'thave2muchhp" ... just window shopping right now, but if you want to shoot me a PM with some info/price/pics I can add it to the list
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:36 PM   #13
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Sorry for the newb thread, but wanted to make sure I was understanding the difference in the years listed above. Basically the same car/platform for each year with the exception(s): '13 gained touch screen display + integrated nav via mylink & convertible ... then '14 added some cosmetic updates and Recaro's (as an option) ... '15 basically stayed the same as '14 minus Recaro's became standard and not "optioned in".

Please add-to or correct me if I'm wrong/missed something. These are the things I noticed as being different based on comparing the models and info found on the ZL1 Registry page.

I'm horrible for "newer MUST BE BETTER" mentality, but for all intents and purposes the '12-'15 are all basically the same car/platforms (performance, suspension, drivetrain)?? Yes? No?
Recaro seats were an option on 2015 ZL1's as well and not standard.

In addition to Blue Ray Metallic being replaced by Blue Velvet Metallic in the 2015 model year, the only other difference from the 2014 car I specifically know of has to do with the rear view camera display.
On the 2014 car, yellow and red object distance warning triangles will appear when in reverse, whereas on the 2015 car, there are "alignment" grid indicators (probably not the official term).
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:46 AM   #14
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Recaros were a $2,000 option for both '14 and '15. It was essentially the same car except for the updates that you mentioned in your opening post.
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