Is the ZL1 a Supercar?

[45thAnniversary2SS]

Originally Posted by Normagene

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Didn't see that. Guess for these 20 cars you are correct. Thought you meant COPOs in general.

[Trickskier]

Originally Posted by snackbar64

It seems that from reading this thread, most who don't own a ZL1 say no, while others who do say yes. It has to be truly experienced to be appreciated as such. I consider the GT 500 a supercar and the ZL1 is right there with that car on a road course. Also people keep calling the ZL1 a muscle car only. Muscle cars in general don't put down numbers on a road course like the ZL1 can. It has the nostalgic styling of a muscle car, but it has the underpinnings to run with most exotics.

Well said!!!

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by Trickskier

Well said!!!

I agree and it made me think if the hellcat or the barracuda come out they may have to come out with a new class.

[Normagene]

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[Normagene]

Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

Sooooo gas monkey is building copo rip-offs? Anyone can buy the "body in white" and build one....he's just building his own version, complete w/ a huge mark up I'm sure.

Welcome to America! Didn't Jr from American Chopper do some sort of Camaro build. Some Ugly thing full of rivets. He was driving one on one episode, not sure if they actually sold any. Read something else about Gas Monkey giving one away in some sort of drawing coming up. A free Camaro, well ya probably gotta buy a ticket or maybe just enter some contest. Good promo stuff for his show and night club.


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[OldScoolCamaro]

It does not fit the defininition of a super car. However, being a production line built car, with what it can do, for it's price...., compared to super cars, the thought of it being so can be entertained to a degree. The ZL1 is a value for the spectrum of performance levels that it crosses.

[POWERFREAK]

Originally Posted by Normagene

Welcome to America! Didn't Jr from American Chopper do some sort of Camaro build. Some Ugly thing full of rivets. He was driving one on one episode, not sure if they actually sold any. Read something else about Gas Monkey giving one away in some sort of drawing coming up. A free Camaro, well ya probably gotta buy a ticket or maybe just enter some contest. Good promo stuff for his show and night club.


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Yeah, but they are marketing it as their own kind of copo and selling 20 of them. Not saying there's anything really wrong with that (hey if people have the $$ to blow, why not), it's all part of the marketing machine...but they aren't really doing anything that special, because all the parts can be ordered right out of the GMPP catalog (well except the ugly gas monkey stickers).

Also, the one you mentioned from JR was a one off custom build....totally a different scenario.

[Normagene]

Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

Also, the one you mentioned from JR was a one off custom build....totally a different scenario.

Okay, for some reason I thought he got with that other shop with the intent to sell a "designed by Junior" edition. Good thing it was a one off, can't imagine anybody paying out the big bucks for something that ugly. Then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder!


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[Evotion]

We have Goodyear supercar tires... That's about as close to a supercar as we will get.

Personally I wouldn't want to be grouped into that fraternity, most supercar owners know very little about their cars other than how much more they paid for them.

[Denis]

Originally Posted by Normagene

Things are not always what they appear to be:


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HAHAHAHA

Originally Posted by mylftft

I raced dirt bikes professionally for KTM. We got to drive the X-bows at a private test track outside Mojave in the desert, those things are so fun, you better have your harness very tight because they'll throw you out of the seat in hard corners, they're the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels.

ugh, that sounds awesome!

[joes407]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

My point is your comparing your car to a Porsche and 13 models finished ahead. One of the actually Porsche super cars finished almost 45 seconds ahead. I don't consider a 911 or a boxer to be super cars. I do however know for a fact that the 918 spyder is a Supercar. I'm not argueing that the Camaro isn't a great performer. It's an incredible performer for a modern muscle car!!! You seam confused about what the thread is about. The thread isn't titled does the ZL1 perform like a supercar? Yes those are stock numbers for a SRT-4 with dealer installed turbo upgrade and suspension that's why I'm using it as an example of a great performer that is NOT a super car. Just like the ZL1. And finally I'm here because I own a Camaro. Notice the sig photo?

Why would it break? Do you know anything about a stage 3 SRT-4? Do you know what suspension componets were installed with the stage 3 suspension upgrade at the dealership? Do you have any idea how much power the 2.4 liter motor was capable of before you had to worry about breakage? Do you understand that the SRT-4 was over 1000 pounds lighter than a Camaro. Do you understand why weight is even an issue when road racing?

Supercars are expensive huh? Luckily parts for a ZL1 can be bought at auto zone and are fairly cheap.

i used to kill srt-4 neons back in 05 with a g.m stage 2 cobalt SS supercharged which had about 300 h.p, mustve been a supercar. shoulda kept it i guess

[ZED SLED]

Saw this at a car show in WV a couple of weeks ago. I think I could've took him, lol

[Denis]

i have still yet to see one of those....i want to!

[Normagene]

Originally Posted by mclark10

Saw this at a car show in WV a couple of weeks ago. I think I could've took him, lol

Wow! Only seen them on TV, the web, or magazines. Love to see one up close. At the Boston car show the Rolls & Bentleys had the highest price tags, just around 400 to 500K. The Lambo Aventador was the Supercar Star of the show. It was sold three days before the show, but the owner said he'd wait till after the show to take possession. Sticker Price was around 420K. That's like having a ZL1 in every color! Must be nice to have that kinda money!


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