Shno's House of Z

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

An LT4 Camaro won't be within 100 lbs of the GT350. A Camaro within 100 lbs of the GT350 won't make 100 more hp.

Yeah, I'm assuming but I'm making assumptions based on what GM has done. I don't think GM will make another LTx for a Z/28. They will probably just build an LT4 powered Z/28. Even if the Camaro loses 200 lbs across the board, that puts an LT4 powered Z around 3900 lbs, which would be way heavier than the GT350.

What are you thinking the base weight will be?

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

An LT4 Camaro won't be within 100 lbs of the GT350. A Camaro within 100 lbs of the GT350 won't make 100 more hp.

Yeah, I'm assuming but I'm making assumptions based on what GM has done. I don't think GM will make another LTx for a Z/28. They will probably just build an LT4 powered Z/28. Even if the Camaro loses 200 lbs across the board, that puts an LT4 powered Z around 3900 lbs, which would be way heavier than the GT350.

Well that would give the BIG win to the Z/28 then. 300 pounds more with GM's demonstrated support chassis tuning and brakes WITH 150 HP more will definitely destroy a 350R.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

What are you thinking the base weight will be?

The GT350 weighs less than the GT PP and the GT350R weighs at least 130 lbs less than the GT350. That could put it in the low to mid 3600 lbs range. I can't really find a curb weight for the base GT PP but a fully loaded one weighs in around 3800 lbs.

Originally Posted by Number 3

Well that would give the BIG win to the Z/28 then. 300 pounds more with GM's demonstrated support chassis tuning and brakes WITH 150 HP more will definitely destroy a 350R.

The LT4 Z won't make 150 more HP. Best case, it will make 120 hp more but I doubt it. The 5.2 will make at least 100 hp/l and the LT4 will not make 650 hp in the Camaro.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The GT350 weighs less than the GT PP and the GT350R weighs at least 130 lbs less than the GT350. That could put it in the low to mid 3600 lbs range. I can't really find a curb weight for the base GT PP but a fully loaded one weighs in around 3800 lbs.



The LT4 Z won't make 150 more HP. Best case, it will make 120 hp more but I doubt it. The 5.2 will make at least 100 hp/l and the LT4 will not make 650 hp in the Camaro.

Based on the C7 Corvette I'd rather believe Chevy has a great product about to be revealed. Don't be a http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...-downer/n11825

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The GT350 weighs less than the GT PP and the GT350R weighs at least 130 lbs less than the GT350. That could put it in the low to mid 3600 lbs range. I can't really find a curb weight for the base GT PP but a fully loaded one weighs in around 3800 lbs.



The LT4 Z won't make 150 more HP. Best case, it will make 120 hp more but I doubt it. The 5.2 will make at least 100 hp/l and the LT4 will not make 650 hp in the Camaro.

No way to know for sure but you are being negative about our chances. What's up?

[RSZ]

Fully loaded 15 GT with track pac comes in at 3824 lbs.

[brt3]

Originally Posted by RSZ

Fully loaded 15 GT with track pac comes in at 3824 lbs.

No way the GT350R will be anything less than 3,700 pounds, IMHO...

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Number 3

No way to know for sure but you are being negative about our chances. What's up?

Don't mean to bandwagon - but I've noticed this as well...

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Number 3

No way to know for sure but you are being negative about our chances. What's up?

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. I could be wrong and I hope I am. Just for there to be a 6th gen Z/28 with a new LTx, GM would have to develop a one off engine for it or it would share it with an as of yet not existing C7 model. GM has only once built a one off Camaro engine, ever, and the Camaro and Corvette haven't shared a higher powered engine since the gen 1 small block and big blocks.

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Based on the C7 Corvette I'd rather believe Chevy has a great product about to be revealed. Don't be a http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...-downer/n11825

I never said it won't be a great car. I'm sure I will be very tempted to buy one. If GM wants me to spend another $45k+, then they need to deliver a car that I want more than I wanted my 1LE.

[RSZ]

Originally Posted by brt3

No way the GT350R will be anything less than 3,700 pounds, IMHO...

They are listing the "R" weight at 130 lbs. less than the GT350. The std. 350 does have A/C as std. Equipment. It appears most of the weight savings is in the rear seat delete, CF reinforced front rad. support and 13 lbs. each for the CF wheels.

From a source close to the project HP will be between 525-550.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. I could be wrong and I hope I am. Just for there to be a 6th gen Z/28 with a new LTx, GM would have to develop a one off engine for it or it would share it with an as of yet not existing C7 model. GM has only once built a one off Camaro engine, ever, and the Camaro and Corvette haven't shared a higher powered engine since the gen 1 small block and big blocks.



I never said it won't be a great car. I'm sure I will be very tempted to buy one. If GM wants me to spend another $45k+, then they need to deliver a car that I want more than I wanted my 1LE.

It will be a better car. My concern is the car seems to lack the curves of the 5Gen and 69'.

[JusticePete]

Soon we will know.

[Blueclyde]

I'm not expecting the hear about Zxx model specifics on Saturday. I fear we will be speculating on these matters for some time to come. GM got brained by Ford with the ZL1 and I expect them to hold Z model plans and specs for some time. This would also help them sell remaining 5th Gen Z/28's and ZL1's.

[Mr. Wyndham]

If you overexpose the latest teaser images....they left a lot of data in the shadows...check out the character lines on the sides of the lower grille...