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Captain Awesome · 08-07-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Pretty good show, I liked seeing some of those old commercials too...

The interview with the customers at the Toyota dealership is typical thinking of people, I have owned GM cars since 1969, and NEVER had any Knobs fall off...never had one rust out, my 89 Chevy truck I had for 9 years and it never had one spot of rust show up even in places where the paint was scraped in the bed. Yet my in-laws had a 1976 Toyota Corolla that the whole bottom rusted out in 5 years... Quality, sheesh.... maybe I have been lucky, but you would think after owning 35 GM cars I would have gotten a lemon or two...( closest thing I had to a lemon was a 71 Vega, but I still put 50,000 miles on it is 3 years, nothing ever fell off of it either... just started using oil around 40K then I traded it for a 74 Camaro... I miss that car)

Those people in the Toyota dealership were typical import snobs. They probably ready about GM in some Japanese owned product review magazine and never even looked at a GM car. They base their whole opinion of something on nonsense.

Plus, a lot of them rationalize in their minds that the import cars are better built because they just got ripped off and need to justify to themselves why they spent thousands more on a car that's no better than any other.

Granted, that Cimmaron they showed was indeed a junky cheap looking car with a chintzy interior, but that cheap look was NORMAL back in those days. Japanese cars from that time really didn't have much nicer interior styling.

theholycow · 08-07-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Japanese cars from that time really didn't have much nicer interior styling.

Understatement of the year?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-07-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

I work with such a person. Toyota is GOD to him. I am slowly convincing him that I know more about what I am saying than he does.

Good for you!

jojohn33 · 08-07-2008, 12:24 PM

The point of that part was that gm cars compared to most other cars don't hold their value as well. Which is true and they have taken steps towards improving that. Its easy to find someone that will talk bad about any brand or make or model of a car. Though I do like how they showed the interior of the firebird/camaro in one part when talking about cheap interior. My firebird has held up great in its 9 years and never a problem.

Angrybird 12 · 08-07-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Those people in the Toyota dealership were typical import snobs. They probably ready about GM in some Japanese owned product review magazine and never even looked at a GM car. They base their whole opinion of something on nonsense.

Plus, a lot of them rationalize in their minds that the import cars are better built because they just got ripped off and need to justify to themselves why they spent thousands more on a car that's no better than any other.

Granted, that Cimmaron they showed was indeed a junky cheap looking car with a chintzy interior, but that cheap look was NORMAL back in those days. Japanese cars from that time really didn't have much nicer interior styling.

There are always those that will insist that Japaneese are better and worth the extra money. A friend of mine has been talking for 6 months to me about my HHR, he made me believe he was going to get one but at the last minute ended up getting a Toyota Rav 4 and paid about $3,000 more and gets worse gas mileage. go figure. By the way 3 years ago he bought a Toyota Tundra to pull his camper... well he ended up buying a Silverado 2500 with the desiel engine because the Toyota was only getting about 9 mpg pulling the camper and had a hard time doing it. Even when he does not pull the camper 18 MPG was the best it would do. he kept the Toyota because he likes it better....

I remember one dealer was buying up Cavaliers and changing them to look like Cimmarons and selling them so they could make more money. but the only thing they changed were the grills and taillights, and replaced the emblems.
I owed an 85 Cavalier and laughed when a Cimmaron pulled up next to me knowing they paid half again as much for the same car with leather seats and a V6 engine.

*radz28* · 08-07-2008, 02:48 PM

I'll admit that I liked the program a lot. It was very informative and I learned a lot about where GM is now, both nationally, and globally. I wished the Camaro segment was longer, but what are you gonna' do? Let's hope GM gets turned around in time to save themselves so we can all get our car!

rocknrollcali87 · 08-07-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Congoman775

can someone post the vid online???

Please someone post the video, I missed it because of work and have no DVR.

AZCamaroFan · 08-07-2008, 04:54 PM

what i learned is that GM actually thinks gauges on the floor is one the big great things on the camaro

chevydude26 · 08-07-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slick rick

camaro part only

so its because of australia that the roof is higher than the concept....

and because of Australia that our reverse lights are in such a weird position...

well screw that we should have just kept it here if that was the case...let them build their own version of the camaro...i'm mad now

at least tom tried to beg for the height to be lower

Kyle2k · 08-07-2008, 06:03 PM

Overall, how higher is the roof on the production car?

4thGen · 08-07-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chevydude26

so its because of australia that the roof is higher than the concept....

and because of Australia that our reverse lights are in such a weird position...

well screw that we should have just kept it here if that was the case...let them build their own version of the camaro...i'm mad now

at least tom tried to beg for the height to be lower

You'll feel better once you're driving the car.

rolnslo · 08-07-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Overall, how higher is the roof on the production car?

The video clip said it was 58.3" tall but the spec PDF from the 21st says 54.2". I hope the spec is right.

AZCamaroFan · 08-07-2008, 06:39 PM

ha i thought it was 53
good reporting by CNBC, with the 58 inch roof.

Angrybird 12 · 08-07-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chevydude26

so its because of australia that the roof is higher than the concept....

and because of Australia that our reverse lights are in such a weird position...

well screw that we should have just kept it here if that was the case...let them build their own version of the camaro...i'm mad now

at least tom tried to beg for the height to be lower

Roof height???? Whats a roof???
see picture below

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08-07-2008, 12:24 PM	#172
jojohn33 Drives: tt Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: wv Posts: 47	The point of that part was that gm cars compared to most other cars don't hold their value as well. Which is true and they have taken steps towards improving that. Its easy to find someone that will talk bad about any brand or make or model of a car. Though I do like how they showed the interior of the firebird/camaro in one part when talking about cheap interior. My firebird has held up great in its 9 years and never a problem.

08-07-2008, 04:54 PM	#176
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,468	what i learned is that GM actually thinks gauges on the floor is one the big great things on the camaro

08-07-2008, 06:39 PM	#181
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,468	ha i thought it was 53 good reporting by CNBC, with the 58 inch roof.