Potential Huge Problem.... 2010 Camaro Nose Cracks (UPDATE: NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL!)

[bcudm]

Originally Posted by Teleplayer

Another interesting thing I notice from the pictures is that the crack remains "open" when the car is not moving. This means that there was stress in that area when the car was built, either from the molding process or perhaps the nose was pulled up and then locked down in that spot in order to properly match the hood line.
I'm sure a bunch of GM engineers are losing some sleep after seeing those pictures.

This is a good point...I don't want to speculate on the potential cause, but if you remove the piece from the vehicle and the crack closes in a state of rest its likely an adjustment issue.. if the crack stays open after freed from the vehicle it might be that more serious issue of a design flaw... crazyness

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

So there you go. There is no problem. Nothing more to see here. Move along.

Uh, what? Fbodfather just said the car has been tested at high speeds with nothing about what could be going on here.

[69 Hugger]

The car came from Hennessey motorsports, check out the article on http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20995

[cyberbro]

Well at least the net does not sleep in on a Sunday!

http://jalopnik.com/5238125/camaro-g...-at-high-speed


NEWS, yeah just plagiaries fan forms?
Can we wait for 2 or 3 cars with the same issue before we scrap 15,000 of them?

[Nine Ball]

Originally Posted by 08z51c6

I second that. It looks like the car hit some thing, not a stress crack.

Are you an expert on stress cracks that occur on new Camaro noses? I'm not. Okay, lets assume it DID hit something. Did it hit a helium filled balloon or a sitting elephant? How much force did it take to create the damage shown? 5 lbs or 500 lbs? Wouldn't you want to know if it were delicate? I would. Then I might have to be more careful when washing the car.

Some of you guys are quick to discount the issue, but the fact is that SOME sort of issue exists here. You can't sweep cracks like this under the rug, the cracks are there. Now, we just need to figure out what caused them, and how to fix it. Not just ignore it. Ignoring this would be highly dumb.

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by FirstLSK

I don't think that anyone has said this yet but... THANK YOU Nine Ball for posting this.

I really hope that issues like this get posted for every component failure that occurs from every production Camaro. Why? Because it reinforces your argument if your fascia crack 3 years from now and the dealer tries to deny warrany.

As other have stated, this is not a 155 issue, but a component fatigue issue. As much as GM monitors this site, I am sure that they are already aware of the issue.

To my fellow Camaro pre-order enthusiasts, I would just recommend that you keep a keen eye on this area of your car. I know I will be.

Originally Posted by catmaster1

How do we ACTUALLY know how this cracked. Maybe some 350 pound guy sat on the front of the car and cracked it.

Agreed. My personal opinion is that the driver ended up hitting something and it cracked the facia. He was so embarrassed that he didn't want to admit it. However, the driver probably didn't think something like this would have developed from the lie. Seriously....look at the crack. I believe (and I'm no engineer, here....) that if the crack developed from wind resistance, the crack would NOT be as open while it is sitting still. It appears as though the front bumper is not out of place. I highly doubt wind would do that to something bolted down like that. If it did....so be it. GM will fix the issue.

Originally Posted by Nine Ball

Perhaps you should re-read the thread again. The guy who gave us an explanation was a technician at this shop, someone who works on high performance cars for a living. He was "assisting" us with the photo shoot.

I remember being one of the early C6 Corvette owners in 2005. The first time someone reported their roof flying off at highway speeds, several people told that guy to quit bitching, and that it was an isolated case. Some even laughed and said he must have done something to damage his car. Now, 100s of flying roofs later, it isn't so funny or isolated. Just keep that in mind. I guarantee the C6 Corvette also had plenty of wind tunnel and high-speed tests prior to a roof flying off. Not all problems are solved on the engineering side of things. It is important to understand that this destructive failure is POSSIBLE, it is not a guarantee it will happen. We shall see if others find the problem in time.

Whatever the issue is, it will be fixed.
I thank you VERY much for posting the pix. My opinion...which will not change until clarification....someone hit something.

And no more unnecessary complaining either. I swear, after page two, I was ready to delete 20 or so posts....random complaining....freakin ridiculous!

[diddiyo]

even if it's not really a problem coming from the winds, the news it out (see jalopnik.com) and we all now how hard it is to get rid of rumors. "the damage is done" and i don't mean that only in regards to the cracking-issue we have here...

[bcudm]

if Hennessey removed that front piece, and re-attached it improperly, it's possible the cracks formed because of the newly introduced stresses and so there is not necessarily a relationship between the crack and the speed of the car...

[qbert48]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

So there you go. There is no problem. Nothing more to see here. Move along.

he would have said something was wrong if it was right?

[cyberbro]

Anyone read the last posts before they post?

[69 Hugger]

Originally Posted by cyberbro

Well at least the net does not sleep in on a Sunday!

http://jalopnik.com/5238125/camaro-g...-at-high-speed


NEWS, yeah just plagiaries fan forms?
Can we wait for 2 or 3 cars with the same issue before we scrap 15,000 of them?

[CWI]

I can't believe this didn't show in wind tunnel testing.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by bcudm

if Hennessey removed that front piece, and re-attached it improperly, it's possible the cracks formed because of the newly introduced stresses and so there is not necessarily a relationship between the crack and the speed of the car...

This actually sound somewhat plausible but we could easily find that out.

[Nine Ball]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Whatever the issue is, it will be fixed.
I thank you VERY much for posting the pix. My opinion...which will not change until clarification....someone hit something.

And no more unnecessary complaining either. I swear, after page two, I was ready to delete 20 or so posts....random complaining....freakin ridiculous!

I feel people have a valid right to complain, are we supposed to be happy about this? I even hesitated about posting the pics, but then I'd feel like a huge jerk if someone went out and did the same thing to their new Camaro. Hopefully, this IS a weird occurrence and nobody has to suffer it. Anyway, the cat is out of the bag on THIS car, and it is up for the rest of us to decide how we feel about it or what we can do to fix the issue.

Like I said, it didn't change my excitement over the car, mine is still on the way. I might even take it up to 155 just to crack it, because I know several pansy owners will not.