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BSR-1 · 10-21-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwdon

damn shame nobody knows a extrude honing shop local to them, hard to reach far into the manifold runners and keep it uniform with the dremel attachments BSR showed. I think when Matt D. did my manifold (Stacey should have it now, you can ask him), he ported the end of the runner that connects to the riser basically, as far in as he could, but once you pull off that top plate, you can still see all that factory cast mess inside the manifold chamber. pass a bunch of that gritty paste through them runners and then use a sandpaper lap wheel to rough up the finish....bing, as big a runner as possible into the riser. same thing for that riser too, port/extrude that sucker.

I wish I had the connections with a machine shop that could extrude, I'm certain if you took a stock llt and did all the machining and porting of the stock parts (minus a set of lt headers and a cai), you could milk 400+ crank N/A no problem. The engine runs a high enough comp. ratio, just lighten/hatchet head and balance the crank with stock rods/pistons, ported heads with a full radius valve job, port the riser/intake manifold and t/b. I don't think a stroker would even be needed, 3.6 would be fine.

just removing extra material and balancing....crazy ain't it? that's the expensive stuff

That would be the way to get the intake runners done right! Wish I knew the right people!

BSR-1 · 10-21-2011, 10:25 PM

Like I already said in a PM, I would love to do a full head port job on this but I just don't trust my mechanical ability to get the heads off and back on in a timely and orderly manner.

I've done lots of motorcycle engine builds (porting included) and there is really nothing like a shorn scrotum.............LOL............I mean a motor that runs at its full potential.

P.S. sorry but I've never been able to master the multiple quote deal.

jeff4946 · 10-22-2011, 05:00 PM

Wife called and said I got a big package...... In the mail. Hmmm..

BaylorCamaro · 10-22-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bmorecam

So N/A is definitely something new to me which make me want to pursue my goal even more. If I had to come up with anything I didn't like about turbos it would have to be spooling time and top end, but other then that there's nothing more easier to mod then a factory turbo'ed car.

Exactly, which is why I'm never too impressed when someone has a FI car or is spraying. But when someone has a car that is all motor and is fast, then I'm really impressed. For instance a buddy of mine has a Mini Cooper S (turbo) and stock it runs around 15-15.2 and he got the boost dialed up and had a catback put on, that's it and now he's running 14.1

jeff4946 · 10-22-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorAirForce

Exactly, which is why I'm never too impressed when someone has a FI car or is spraying. But when someone has a car that is all motor and is fast, then I'm really impressed. For instance a buddy of mine has a Mini Cooper S (turbo) and stock it runs around 15-15.2 and he got the boost dialed up and had a catback put on, that's it and now he's running 14.1

Wow!... Just kinda took the wind outta my sails, eh.

BaylorCamaro · 10-22-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff4946

Wow!... Just kinda took the wind outta my sails, eh.

haha, it isn't anything against people that run FI cars or spray. It's just my personal opinion, I've always been a lot more interested in cars that are all motor.

bmorecam · 10-22-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorAirForce

Exactly, which is why I'm never too impressed when someone has a FI car or is spraying. But when someone has a car that is all motor and is fast, then I'm really impressed. For instance a buddy of mine has a Mini Cooper S (turbo) and stock it runs around 15-15.2 and he got the boost dialed up and had a catback put on, that's it and now he's running 14.1

I remember back in 2001 I purchased my very first 2002 WRB WRX suabru(the very 1st turbo suby's in the state). I remember it was a tiny little 2.0 litre and stock it was running around 14lb of boost and I think it did flat 14's all day in the 1/4. Long story short. Install a $200 bucks COBB piggy back and was hitting 13.5-13.6 all day long. Yhea.. that's factory turbo'ed cars for ya

jeff4946 · 10-22-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorAirForce

haha, it isn't anything against people that run FI cars or spray. It's just my personal opinion, I've always been a lot more interested in cars that are all motor.

No problem.

spyderbuddy · 10-22-2011, 07:55 PM

Man this is just to cool, I cant wait till someone gets froggy and really jumps into one of these engines. I think we will find out the true potential of one of these little beast.

I know this engine is only 220 cubic inches and allready pushing 350 in some cases, what about torque and transmissions. I read that the 6L60e is only good for somewhere in the 375 torque range.

I could be wrong but just asking questions.

BSR-1 · 10-22-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Man this is just to cool, I cant wait till someone gets froggy and really jumps into one of these engines. I think we will find out the true potential of one of these little beast.

There's only 1 thing keeping me from really going all out on this motor$$$$$$

I've done the best I can afford.

scrming · 10-23-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bmorecam

I remember back in 2001 I purchased my very first 2002 WRB WRX suabru(the very 1st turbo suby's in the state). I remember it was a tiny little 2.0 litre and stock it was running around 14lb of boost and I think it did flat 14's all day in the 1/4. Long story short. Install a $200 bucks COBB piggy back and was hitting 13.5-13.6 all day long. Yhea.. that's factory turbo'ed cars for ya

My 5000 pound BRICK with the 3.5L twin turbo EcoBoost ran 14.2 stock. Added just a tune and dropped it to 13.5. I now have a bit more aggressive tune that I haven't run at the track yet, but it should drop me down to 13.3ish. Stock the Brick did 0-60 MPH in 6.0 seconds, with this latest tune my 0-60 MPH is down to 4.8 seconds! All with just a simple tune!

blackTT600 · 10-23-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BSR-1

There's only 1 thing keeping me from really going all out on this motor$$$$$$

You are not alone in that!

DarkneSS · 10-23-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Man this is just to cool, I cant wait till someone gets froggy and really jumps into one of these engines. I think we will find out the true potential of one of these little beast.

I know this engine is only 220 cubic inches and allready pushing 350 in some cases, what about torque and transmissions. I read that the 6L60e is only good for somewhere in the 375 torque range.

I could be wrong but just asking questions.

Indeed the tranny is the next issue.

Im hoping the SS manual tranny can be swapped on a manual V6 as they already share a few similar parts.

If not Ill probably take it to a good performance transmission shop and get it built.

SC2150 · 10-23-2011, 01:56 PM

The bell housings of the V8 trans do not come close to bolting to the LLT block, but adaptors can always be made.

We have been running Gretchen hard w/the stock auto trans w/no issues. the stock converter is weak but our stall converter is a purpose built tuff as heck unit (not a restalled stock unit) so that takes care of that weak point. There are no available hard-parts to beef up the trans yet, or we would already be doing builds on them but in a year or two I expect to see some released.

10-21-2011, 10:25 PM	#240
BSR-1 Drives: 17 ZL1 M6 Black Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Capo Beach, Ca Posts: 1,411 View My Garage	Like I already said in a PM, I would love to do a full head port job on this but I just don't trust my mechanical ability to get the heads off and back on in a timely and orderly manner. I've done lots of motorcycle engine builds (porting included) and there is really nothing like a shorn scrotum.............LOL............I mean a motor that runs at its full potential. P.S. sorry but I've never been able to master the multiple quote deal. __________________

10-22-2011, 05:00 PM	#241
jeff4946 Drives: 2010 RS 2LT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: slc, utah Posts: 623 View My Garage	Wife called and said I got a big package...... In the mail. Hmmm.. __________________ K&N Cai, BSR Ported intake, MBRP catback, BBK long tubes, VMax throttle body, 3.73 SS gears, Zex nitrous 125hp shot, window switch, purge,remote bottle opener, bottle heater, Trifecta tune, Hurst short throw, RX catch can, Intake isolator, Ported Intake manifold

10-22-2011, 07:55 PM	#247
spyderbuddy Drives: 2010 RS Inferno Orange Metallic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albany, Ga. Posts: 3,473 View My Garage	Man this is just to cool, I cant wait till someone gets froggy and really jumps into one of these engines. I think we will find out the true potential of one of these little beast. I know this engine is only 220 cubic inches and allready pushing 350 in some cases, what about torque and transmissions. I read that the 6L60e is only good for somewhere in the 375 torque range. I could be wrong but just asking questions. __________________ 2024 Camaro/Panther Emblem,Hot Wheels Emblems, Hot Wheels Door Sills and Floor Mats, Morimoto Fog Lights, PCP Hideaway Headlight Covers, BBK Headers & High Flow Cats, ZL1 Add-ons Wicker Bill, TL1/ZL1 Hood Insert, Gen5 DIY Frameless Mirror, ABL Dash Lighting & My link Navigation, Blacked out Rear Bowtie, all Sylvania led Turn Signals, Ceramic Window Tint By Nicks, MBRP Exhaust tips, GEN5 DIY Virginia Legal DRL Harness, Painted Brake Calipers, Vittesse Throttle Controller & Paddle Shifter Heritage Grill, Manual Shifter Boot, CNC Throttle Body, Trifecta Tune, Trunk Black out and Side Grills,

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SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	The bell housings of the V8 trans do not come close to bolting to the LLT block, but adaptors can always be made. We have been running Gretchen hard w/the stock auto trans w/no issues. the stock converter is weak but our stall converter is a purpose built tuff as heck unit (not a restalled stock unit) so that takes care of that weak point. There are no available hard-parts to beef up the trans yet, or we would already be doing builds on them but in a year or two I expect to see some released.