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OldScoolCamaro · 09-30-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by b4z

Chevy was really smart putting the grilles in the hood. It will help with airflow through the radiator and of course exhaust engine heat.
Heat soak is a big problem now, especially with many hoods being sealed with gaskets due to injector noise and of course a aluminum block and heads are noisier than iron.
MY GTO is completely stock and at temps over 85 degrees it falls on it's face, and probably loses at least 20hp. I am sure 5th gens have the same problem.
Add a supercharger and I am sure it becomes much much worse.

...just a thought here...maybe the "track pack" spyshot pic posted recently of the hastily cut hood opening in the ZL1 mohawk hood with the hood pins was some early design function test of this very same form of heat soak reduction effort incorporated into the hood that we are seeing now...don't know, pure speculation...<but we LOVE speculation

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RS/SS · 09-30-2011, 10:23 PM

Anyone notice the line at the bottom of the sign in front of the car. "Limited Availability Starting in Spring 2012".

Modern07 · 10-01-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RS/SS

Anyone notice the line at the bottom of the sign in front of the car. "Limited Availability Starting in Spring 2012".

Yes I did

Hopefully it's only limited availability at first rather than limited availability period.

KLR ZL1 · 10-01-2011, 11:44 AM

This guy on the video doesn't really know what he is talking about. He says the ZL1 has an extra latch for the doors, well I don't know about all of you but the last time I looked all camaros have these, it isn't exclusive to the ZL1. Also the door sills are the same except for they have ZL1 on them. And what about the vents on the hood extract heat from the heat exchanger in the SC. It is my belief that it removes the heat from the engine compartment. I just think it is funny how these so called car guys have these interviews and shows and don't know what they are talking about. I would rather listen to some of the people on this forrum, they seem to know a lot more about the Camaro than most people.

1BADZL1 · 10-01-2011, 08:36 PM

did not read the whole thread...
is this the same Chicago Show ZL1?
Are there any noticeable differences from the first ZL1's that have been shown?
Sorry but I can't get too excited about old hat.

Modern07 · 10-02-2011, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MY68RS

did not read the whole thread...
is this the same Chicago Show ZL1?
Are there any noticeable differences from the first ZL1's that have been shown?
Sorry but I can't get too excited about old hat.

This is the first time I've really seen the functional hood vents from underneath the hood - shows them in the video..

1BADZL1 · 10-02-2011, 12:37 AM

Gotta love the bottom of the poster board..
"Limited Availability Starting in Spring 2012"

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-02-2011, 10:56 PM

Cool pictures!!

But I wish some journalists would stop speculating and just have enough self-esteem to say something like "No word on pricing, yet"....

MaroSS · 10-03-2011, 11:58 AM

If $55k is the starting price? For Magnetic Ride Control, a LSA engine, cool interior and faster than the current and more expensive CTS-V?? sign me up. Lower than that will be awesome as well though lol

Newmonarch · 10-03-2011, 12:45 PM

Well, I have just built an Camaro by using tool in their web site,

A fully optioned ( Every think ) Camaro SS Automatic costs $47.000.

Now face it,

Camaro ZL-1 has Lsa engine, better transmission, improved bodywork, has got carbonfiber, has got bigger brakes, bigger differantial, improved downforce, has magnetic ride suspension system, has 2 mode dual exhaust , better interior quality than SS ( Suede trim on the dashboard and steering wheel ) etc.

Considering all of this above, a fully optioned ZL-1 would cost over $60.000 I think.

By the way, I like Camaro ZL-1, but I dont like the new steering wheel. I mean, the old one was better to react Camaro soul, the new one looks not fit into that "retro" interior. In fact, some people are making jokes about that steering wheel. ( Like Camaro has stolen it from Cruze, etc. )

1BADZL1 · 10-03-2011, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newmonarch

Well, I have just built an Camaro by using tool in their web site,

A fully optioned ( Every think ) Camaro SS Automatic costs $47.000.

Now face it,

Camaro ZL-1 has Lsa engine, better transmission, improved bodywork, has got carbonfiber, has got bigger brakes, bigger differantial, improved downforce, has magnetic ride suspension system, has 2 mode dual exhaust , better interior quality than SS ( Suede trim on the dashboard and steering wheel ) etc.

Considering all of this above, a fully optioned ZL-1 would cost over $60.000 I think.

By the way, I like Camaro ZL-1, but I dont like the new steering wheel. I mean, the old one was better to react Camaro soul, the new one looks not fit into that "retro" interior. In fact, some people are making jokes about that steering wheel. ( Like Camaro has stolen it from Cruze, etc. )

Take a deep breath... Breath for a moment...
This car is not going to cost $60k....

its not going to happen unless you order every thinkable option package.. ( doubt there will be many options at all from standard the car is already loaded with base equipment)
Base will be somewhere around 50k give or take a thousand or two..

IOMZL1 · 10-03-2011, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY68RS

did not read the whole thread...
is this the same Chicago Show ZL1?
Are there any noticeable differences from the first ZL1's that have been shown?
Sorry but I can't get too excited about old hat.

I don't know. Supposedly this is a car that is very close to the production car yet is still 'pre production'. I didn't really see any differences myself. Anyone else?

IROCanSS · 10-03-2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY68RS

Take a deep breath... Breath for a moment...
This car is not going to cost $60k....

its not going to happen unless you order every thinkable option package.. ( doubt there will be many options at all from standard the car is already loaded with base equipment)
Base will be somewhere around 50k give or take a thousand or two..

I think he's about right. The alcantera will be an option... I bet base car has cloth... with an option of leather... with an option of alcantera. 1ZL, 2ZL, 3ZL... With all kinds of other "options" like HUD, wheels, Bluetooth, auto... just like in the Corvette. I had a 1LT base .... like base price, destination, MSRP C6 and it was only $45,000 but a 4LT is like $60,000 for just a regular coupe.

Will a $60,000 ZL1 be possible, likely. Will they START that high... no way possible.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-04-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY68RS

Take a deep breath... Breath for a moment...
This car is not going to cost $60k....

its not going to happen unless you order every thinkable option package.. ( doubt there will be many options at all from standard the car is already loaded with base equipment)
Base will be somewhere around 50k give or take a thousand or two..

The silver lining in this ever-ongoing price saga is that it's THAT hard to believe the car can be priced competitively given it's content. If it is - it'll be considered a performance bargain rivaling the Z06...

09-30-2011, 10:23 PM	#16
RS/SS The wait is over!! Drives: 2010 Camaro RS/SS IOM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 189	Anyone notice the line at the bottom of the sign in front of the car. "Limited Availability Starting in Spring 2012". __________________ 2010 RS/2SS IOM/IOI MN6 SunRoof Polished 20's

10-01-2011, 11:44 AM	#18
KLR ZL1 H-Town Camaro Club Member Drives: 17 Hyper Blue Metallic KLR-ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pearland Tx. Posts: 2,034 View My Garage	This guy on the video doesn't really know what he is talking about. He says the ZL1 has an extra latch for the doors, well I don't know about all of you but the last time I looked all camaros have these, it isn't exclusive to the ZL1. Also the door sills are the same except for they have ZL1 on them. And what about the vents on the hood extract heat from the heat exchanger in the SC. It is my belief that it removes the heat from the engine compartment. I just think it is funny how these so called car guys have these interviews and shows and don't know what they are talking about. I would rather listen to some of the people on this forrum, they seem to know a lot more about the Camaro than most people. __________________

10-01-2011, 08:36 PM	#19
1BADZL1 THE CAMARO KING Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 on order #PZSD7S Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Out Somewhere Driving My 'BADZL1' Posts: 2,281	did not read the whole thread... is this the same Chicago Show ZL1? Are there any noticeable differences from the first ZL1's that have been shown? Sorry but I can't get too excited about old hat. __________________ 2012 Camaro ZL1 Car Name: Bruce ZL1, LSA, MN6/MG9, DSX, RTQ, VR, Current Status: 2030 1000 Initial Order 11/11/2011 Chevyland 1100 Order accepted at dealer: 11/11/2011 - PZSD7S 2000 Order accepted by GM: 12/14/2011 3000 Accepted By Production Control: 00/00/2011 - TPW 00/00/2011 3100 Sequenced: 00/00/2011 3300 Scheduled For Production:0/0/2012 3400 Broadcast: 0/0/2012 3800 Produced: 0/0/2012 4000 Available To Ship: 0/0/2012 4200 Shipped: 0/0/2012 5000 Delivered To The Dealer: 0/0/2012 6000 Delivered To Customer:0/0/2012

10-02-2011, 12:37 AM	#21
1BADZL1 THE CAMARO KING Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 on order #PZSD7S Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Out Somewhere Driving My 'BADZL1' Posts: 2,281	Gotta love the bottom of the poster board.. "Limited Availability Starting in Spring 2012" __________________ 2012 Camaro ZL1 Car Name: Bruce ZL1, LSA, MN6/MG9, DSX, RTQ, VR, Current Status: 2030 1000 Initial Order 11/11/2011 Chevyland 1100 Order accepted at dealer: 11/11/2011 - PZSD7S 2000 Order accepted by GM: 12/14/2011 3000 Accepted By Production Control: 00/00/2011 - TPW 00/00/2011 3100 Sequenced: 00/00/2011 3300 Scheduled For Production:0/0/2012 3400 Broadcast: 0/0/2012 3800 Produced: 0/0/2012 4000 Available To Ship: 0/0/2012 4200 Shipped: 0/0/2012 5000 Delivered To The Dealer: 0/0/2012 6000 Delivered To Customer:0/0/2012

10-02-2011, 10:56 PM	#22
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	Cool pictures!! But I wish some journalists would stop speculating and just have enough self-esteem to say something like "No word on pricing, yet".... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-03-2011, 11:58 AM	#23
MaroSS ZL1 Drives: 10' SS/RS - Sold; 15' White ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Harbor City, CA Posts: 682 View My Garage	If $55k is the starting price? For Magnetic Ride Control, a LSA engine, cool interior and faster than the current and more expensive CTS-V?? sign me up. Lower than that will be awesome as well though lol __________________

10-03-2011, 12:45 PM	#24
Newmonarch Drives: ZL-1 ( I hope ) Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Turkey Posts: 12	Well, I have just built an Camaro by using tool in their web site, A fully optioned ( Every think ) Camaro SS Automatic costs $47.000. Now face it, Camaro ZL-1 has Lsa engine, better transmission, improved bodywork, has got carbonfiber, has got bigger brakes, bigger differantial, improved downforce, has magnetic ride suspension system, has 2 mode dual exhaust , better interior quality than SS ( Suede trim on the dashboard and steering wheel ) etc. Considering all of this above, a fully optioned ZL-1 would cost over $60.000 I think. By the way, I like Camaro ZL-1, but I dont like the new steering wheel. I mean, the old one was better to react Camaro soul, the new one looks not fit into that "retro" interior. In fact, some people are making jokes about that steering wheel. ( Like Camaro has stolen it from Cruze, etc. )