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ChargedCamaro · 11-08-2011, 11:28 PM

He took off in 1st it started to spin then he put it into 2nd, and then 3rd, maybe hitting 6.5k - 7k

It didnt show any type of problems until we turned around about a mile later which was odd.

ChargedCamaro · 11-08-2011, 11:40 PM

JDP Motorsports · 11-08-2011, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChargedCamaro

Maggie TVS 2300 SC with a 3.6" pulley.
ZR1 Twin Disc clutch.
Hurst Short Shifter.
1 7/8" ARH LT with highflow cats.
Drive Shaft safety loop
Roto-Fab CAI
160º Tstat.
Stage 2 Snow Meth kit safe injection.
ADM Dual Pump kit
ADM boost and AFR guages
Catch Can.

There was never a mis-shift, was in the car

That is interesting. The Maggy usually stops making power around 5500-5800 RPM so there is no need to go any higher than that IMHO. Was there still meth in the tank? I see you have the Safe Injection which is good.

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Originally Posted by ChargedCamaro

He took off in 1st it started to spin then he put it into 2nd, and then 3rd, maybe hitting 6.5k - 7k

It didnt show any type of problems until we turned around about a mile later which was odd.

That is weird.... I'm assuming your tech hasn't taken the front cover off yet to see the timing chain/cam gear yet?

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Originally Posted by ChargedCamaro

The plugs don't look very good.... The tuning definitely needs to be gone through once you get everything figured out. I'm sorry, that is a major bummer!!! :(

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ChargedCamaro · 11-09-2011, 12:01 AM

What do you think could be some good or bad scenarios in this case? Sorry for the questions,

My buddy is a mechanic and he is going to come over with a bore scope tomorrow and try and see what is going on.

Parag · 11-09-2011, 12:31 PM

to me the bent plugs are bad crank bearing.

Jayrcr3 · 11-09-2011, 01:24 PM

Time for a 416.

CGT · 11-09-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

So next time you can bend your valves instead of easy to change push rods. Lol

And just how could stronger pushrods bend valves?

ChargedCamaro · 11-09-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayrcr3

Time for a 416.

I really hope not since i have only owned the car 5 days!!!!

Chris@SPMC · 11-09-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CGT

And just how could stronger pushrods bend valves?

Because when a piston contacts the valve, it gets bent instead of the pushrod. Those last 2 plugs are definitely fouled out and appear to have detonation, but no contact from anything?

Anthony @ LG Motorsports · 11-09-2011, 02:29 PM

Need to check a few things...

1. Has bent pushrods....are these stock or aftermarket rods? A stock pushrod will bend fairly easy and is there almost as a fuse incase of an over rev. Aftermarket hardened pushrods that are bent you need to check the valves as well to make sure they are not bent.

2. I would pull the valve covers off and rocker arms. See if a valve is stuck open. From the looks of the spark plugs, something hit the plug and closed it. Or it was dropped before it went into the car.

As far as valve springs, that needs to be matched to the camshaft that you are using. You can go to stiff as well as to soft on the springs. Figure out what it has for a cam in the car and go from there.

First things first though...figure what happened to it, as I think there is more than just bent pushrods.

CGT · 11-09-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris@SNL/Monster

Because when a piston contacts the valve, it gets bent instead of the pushrod. Those last 2 plugs are definitely fouled out and appear to have detonation, but no contact from anything?

If a valve hits a piston or a piston hits a valve, a weaker or a stronger pushrod is not gonna save you in anyway, or would a "stronger" valve.

mikeSS · 11-09-2011, 03:15 PM

7k

that thing needs a rev limiter bad.

Jayrcr3 · 11-09-2011, 03:43 PM

It's definitely odd that the 2 plugs are pushed closed, but don't appear to have been smashed by a piston. Unfortunately, you would have noticed a power loss if they were that way when you bought it. Did you drop them taking them out?

ChargedCamaro · 11-09-2011, 03:53 PM

No they were not dropped. I took the valve over off and everything look ok, so far 4 pushrods are bent. My buddy is coming over with a bore scope and to do a leak test and compression test tonight.

11-09-2011, 01:24 PM	#20
Jayrcr3 Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chatham, Illinois Posts: 756	Time for a 416. __________________ American Racing 1 7/8" Headers and Hi-Flow Cats, CAI cold air intake, Flowmaster AT exhaust, Vengeance Racing Stage 2 cam, VMax ported throttle body, TEA valve springs and titanium retainers, Trick Flow hardened pushrods, 180* T-stat, Comp Trunion kit, ZL1 Fuel Pump, ADM Fuel Pump Control Module, 20% window tint, Whipple Supercharger. Tuned by Mike Norris Motorsports. 656rwhp/584rwtq @10 PSI.

11-09-2011, 03:43 PM	#27
Jayrcr3 Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chatham, Illinois Posts: 756	It's definitely odd that the 2 plugs are pushed closed, but don't appear to have been smashed by a piston. Unfortunately, you would have noticed a power loss if they were that way when you bought it. Did you drop them taking them out? __________________ American Racing 1 7/8" Headers and Hi-Flow Cats, CAI cold air intake, Flowmaster AT exhaust, Vengeance Racing Stage 2 cam, VMax ported throttle body, TEA valve springs and titanium retainers, Trick Flow hardened pushrods, 180* T-stat, Comp Trunion kit, ZL1 Fuel Pump, ADM Fuel Pump Control Module, 20% window tint, Whipple Supercharger. Tuned by Mike Norris Motorsports. 656rwhp/584rwtq @10 PSI.

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11-08-2011, 11:28 PM	#15
ChargedCamaro Drives: Twin Turbo LSX Camaro Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 1,291	He took off in 1st it started to spin then he put it into 2nd, and then 3rd, maybe hitting 6.5k - 7k It didnt show any type of problems until we turned around about a mile later which was odd.

11-08-2011, 11:40 PM	#16
ChargedCamaro Drives: Twin Turbo LSX Camaro Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 1,291

11-09-2011, 12:01 AM	#18
ChargedCamaro Drives: Twin Turbo LSX Camaro Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 1,291	What do you think could be some good or bad scenarios in this case? Sorry for the questions, My buddy is a mechanic and he is going to come over with a bore scope tomorrow and try and see what is going on.

11-09-2011, 12:31 PM	#19
Parag Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 1,334	to me the bent plugs are bad crank bearing.

11-09-2011, 02:29 PM	#24
Anthony @ LG Motorsports Drives: 1994 1LE / 2006 Z51 Corvette Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 2,829	Need to check a few things... 1. Has bent pushrods....are these stock or aftermarket rods? A stock pushrod will bend fairly easy and is there almost as a fuse incase of an over rev. Aftermarket hardened pushrods that are bent you need to check the valves as well to make sure they are not bent. 2. I would pull the valve covers off and rocker arms. See if a valve is stuck open. From the looks of the spark plugs, something hit the plug and closed it. Or it was dropped before it went into the car. As far as valve springs, that needs to be matched to the camshaft that you are using. You can go to stiff as well as to soft on the springs. Figure out what it has for a cam in the car and go from there. First things first though...figure what happened to it, as I think there is more than just bent pushrods.

11-09-2011, 03:15 PM	#26
mikeSS Drives: 2015 c7 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MI Posts: 7,462	7k that thing needs a rev limiter bad.

11-09-2011, 03:53 PM	#28
ChargedCamaro Drives: Twin Turbo LSX Camaro Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 1,291	No they were not dropped. I took the valve over off and everything look ok, so far 4 pushrods are bent. My buddy is coming over with a bore scope and to do a leak test and compression test tonight.