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mhog · 11-23-2011, 02:25 PM

So what does RDZ expect from that work?

Camarowguy · 11-23-2011, 02:25 PM

Did you do anything to the combustion chambers? Short side radius? Stream line the guides? Open the valve seat to 85% of the valve head size? Back cut the valves? Valve job? If you just gasket matched and didn't do any chamber work or bowl work....you just wasted a whole lotta time for nothing. That part of the port that you show in the pics already outflow the rest of the port sections by a huge margin. So it goes like this: make a part that flows a lot already, flow more and flow more into a section that flows less...what do you end up with? Not much gain if anything. If you want some info on porting and making TRUE worthwhile gains, pm me. I've ported quite a few heads and flowed quite a few also. Getting 300+ cfm on intake and almost 230cfm out of the exhaust on a 23 degree head sbc is no easy thing to do. But I've done it and retained excellent low speed torque and driveability.

scrubby43 · 11-23-2011, 02:34 PM

Nothing was done on the combustion side. we'll have to wait and see what the results will be.

bmorecam · 11-23-2011, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Did you do anything to the combustion chambers? Short side radius? Stream line the guides? Open the valve seat to 85% of the valve head size? Back cut the valves? Valve job? If you just gasket matched and didn't do any chamber work or bowl work....you just wasted a whole lotta time for nothing. That part of the port that you show in the pics already outflow the rest of the port sections by a huge margin. So it goes like this: make a part that flows a lot already, flow more and flow more into a section that flows less...what do you end up with? Not much gain if anything. If you want some info on porting and making TRUE worthwhile gains, pm me. I've ported quite a few heads and flowed quite a few also. Getting 300+ cfm on intake and almost 230cfm out of the exhaust on a 23 degree head sbc is no easy thing to do. But I've done it and retained excellent low speed torque and driveability.

I always thought working the head mean getting into the valves and bowls, etc.. and is exactly what I plan to do when is time for the cams to go in, but I think he will still see a nice gain, probably not as much as he could have gotten but the gain will still be there.

Sterling · 11-23-2011, 03:45 PM

I'm just excited to see how these engines look taken apart like that...

bmorecam · 11-23-2011, 03:46 PM

Hey scrubby, do you have a link to rdz's facebook. I can't find them on FB.

scrubby43 · 11-23-2011, 06:17 PM

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RDZ-Mo...89312334433886

SIXJAK · 11-23-2011, 06:30 PM

This is amazing.

KMPrenger · 11-23-2011, 07:13 PM

Wow, this thread came out of nowhere!

I don't think I've ever seen shots of the LLT quite like that....but then again BMWDON (the member I believe you are refering to who didn't get to finish his build) had some nice shots of the heads in his thread.

So I'm no porting expert by any means, but its basically already been proven that you will see noticeable gains with this. Maybe not the max possible as some here have pointed out, but bmorecam is seeing nice gains with his ported intake alone, so your work here should do the same.

No matter how you slice it, this is pretty awesome, and I love these N/A builds!

scrubby43 · 11-23-2011, 07:32 PM

Yes BMWDON is who i was referring to, thanks because I wanted to give credit where credit is do. To Me it was really obvious that we wont get all the gains possible, but we will definitely get some nice gains. We (the shop I'm working with) talked about cams and decided, do to costs to back away from making our own. as far as the combustion side goes that was my call. I didn't want to get into opening things up, 1 mistake and you have to oversize, where do you get the oversize valves from? So this is what we did, the final result will come tuesday when the car goes on the Dyno and Vince works his magic. Once we finally got in touch with him he has been very helpful and eager to work with us, its just a shame no company will make the software so a shop can do their own tuning. Vince does sell the software but at 42500, for just one car (mine ) the shop i'm working with wont see any return and I'm not flipping the bill for that, this is costing enough already..

scrubby43 · 11-23-2011, 07:33 PM

Correction $2500

tmac1granger33 · 11-23-2011, 08:17 PM

looking forward to some hp and torque numbers, im no car expert at all, but if this is an big enough improvement ill take my car to a shop and have them work theyre magic

bmorecam · 11-23-2011, 08:51 PM

scrubby, do you mind me asking, how much did the install itself cost ya from rdz?

hapisok · 11-23-2011, 09:10 PM

2nd that.

also...how did the go about cleaning out all the aluminum shavings off your cams?

11-23-2011, 02:25 PM	#16
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	Did you do anything to the combustion chambers? Short side radius? Stream line the guides? Open the valve seat to 85% of the valve head size? Back cut the valves? Valve job? If you just gasket matched and didn't do any chamber work or bowl work....you just wasted a whole lotta time for nothing. That part of the port that you show in the pics already outflow the rest of the port sections by a huge margin. So it goes like this: make a part that flows a lot already, flow more and flow more into a section that flows less...what do you end up with? Not much gain if anything. If you want some info on porting and making TRUE worthwhile gains, pm me. I've ported quite a few heads and flowed quite a few also. Getting 300+ cfm on intake and almost 230cfm out of the exhaust on a 23 degree head sbc is no easy thing to do. But I've done it and retained excellent low speed torque and driveability. __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

11-23-2011, 02:34 PM	#17
scrubby43 Drives: 2010 camaro 2lt RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Danbury, Ct Posts: 58	Nothing was done on the combustion side. we'll have to wait and see what the results will be. __________________ 2010 2LT RS Cyber Gray Metallic, White ralley stripes, JBA Shortie headers, SOLO perf HFC & Res. Magnaflow cat back, SS Brakes, Eibach Sways & Springs, Trifecta tune, VMAX throttle body & Catch Can, Custom ported intake, heads, Black ICE-olator, VARARAM.

11-23-2011, 03:45 PM	#19
Sterling Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairhaven, MA Posts: 5,885 View My Garage	I'm just excited to see how these engines look taken apart like that... __________________ Trifecta tune, Vararam Intake, VMAX throttle body and manifold insulator, RxPerformance Catch Can, , MRT v1.0 and Louvers, Barton shifter, BMR strut tower brace, RED dome light and Plasma LED DRL's, fieldgoal00's Halo 1 harness, hood spears/side stripes, rain guards, custom bowtie, Team LLT badges, headlight and foglight covers, taillight and side marker covers, backup light covers, WeatherTech floormats

11-23-2011, 06:17 PM	#21
scrubby43 Drives: 2010 camaro 2lt RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Danbury, Ct Posts: 58	http://www.facebook.com/pages/RDZ-Mo...89312334433886 __________________ 2010 2LT RS Cyber Gray Metallic, White ralley stripes, JBA Shortie headers, SOLO perf HFC & Res. Magnaflow cat back, SS Brakes, Eibach Sways & Springs, Trifecta tune, VMAX throttle body & Catch Can, Custom ported intake, heads, Black ICE-olator, VARARAM.

11-23-2011, 06:30 PM	#22
SIXJAK Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Branson MO Posts: 2,574 View My Garage	This is amazing. __________________ IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.

11-23-2011, 02:25 PM	#15
mhog Drives: 2010 V6 Camaro 2LT/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: NC Posts: 447 View My Garage	So what does RDZ expect from that work?

11-23-2011, 03:46 PM	#20
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,658 View My Garage	Hey scrubby, do you have a link to rdz's facebook. I can't find them on FB.

11-23-2011, 07:13 PM	#23
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,957	Wow, this thread came out of nowhere! I don't think I've ever seen shots of the LLT quite like that....but then again BMWDON (the member I believe you are refering to who didn't get to finish his build) had some nice shots of the heads in his thread. So I'm no porting expert by any means, but its basically already been proven that you will see noticeable gains with this. Maybe not the max possible as some here have pointed out, but bmorecam is seeing nice gains with his ported intake alone, so your work here should do the same. No matter how you slice it, this is pretty awesome, and I love these N/A builds! __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

11-23-2011, 07:32 PM	#24
scrubby43 Drives: 2010 camaro 2lt RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Danbury, Ct Posts: 58	Yes BMWDON is who i was referring to, thanks because I wanted to give credit where credit is do. To Me it was really obvious that we wont get all the gains possible, but we will definitely get some nice gains. We (the shop I'm working with) talked about cams and decided, do to costs to back away from making our own. as far as the combustion side goes that was my call. I didn't want to get into opening things up, 1 mistake and you have to oversize, where do you get the oversize valves from? So this is what we did, the final result will come tuesday when the car goes on the Dyno and Vince works his magic. Once we finally got in touch with him he has been very helpful and eager to work with us, its just a shame no company will make the software so a shop can do their own tuning. Vince does sell the software but at 42500, for just one car (mine ) the shop i'm working with wont see any return and I'm not flipping the bill for that, this is costing enough already.. __________________ 2010 2LT RS Cyber Gray Metallic, White ralley stripes, JBA Shortie headers, SOLO perf HFC & Res. Magnaflow cat back, SS Brakes, Eibach Sways & Springs, Trifecta tune, VMAX throttle body & Catch Can, Custom ported intake, heads, Black ICE-olator, VARARAM.

11-23-2011, 07:33 PM	#25
scrubby43 Drives: 2010 camaro 2lt RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Danbury, Ct Posts: 58	Correction $2500 __________________ 2010 2LT RS Cyber Gray Metallic, White ralley stripes, JBA Shortie headers, SOLO perf HFC & Res. Magnaflow cat back, SS Brakes, Eibach Sways & Springs, Trifecta tune, VMAX throttle body & Catch Can, Custom ported intake, heads, Black ICE-olator, VARARAM.

11-23-2011, 08:17 PM	#26
tmac1granger33 NM HT5 Drives: COTW 3/5/12 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: los lunas, New Mexico Posts: 1,986 View My Garage	looking forward to some hp and torque numbers, im no car expert at all, but if this is an big enough improvement ill take my car to a shop and have them work theyre magic

11-23-2011, 08:51 PM	#27
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,658 View My Garage	scrubby, do you mind me asking, how much did the install itself cost ya from rdz?

11-23-2011, 09:10 PM	#28
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	2nd that. also...how did the go about cleaning out all the aluminum shavings off your cams? __________________

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