My dealer ordered a car 1 month ago, and he just got invoiced!

[OrangeCruSSh]

Originally Posted by drewauby5

It means that you are 25th on the list of camaro orders placed at your dealer. They are allocated so many cars through the first 3 quarters of the year. They get monthly allotments and are allowed to enter in those in any order they choose. Basically you will be the 25th order entered by your dealer, thus waiting a while for your car...I am in Tucson also and looked at both dealers here and they told me I would be that high on list and I went to Larry Green Chevrolet in Cottonwood and used one of their open allocations in April, my car is at 2000 event code now.

So you mean these dealers are lying!? My priority # is 44..so I am the 44th order at my dealer..even though I was told I was 18th? That is f'd up! Could those be the dealer's unsold lot cars in that lump as well? Heck if that is the case why not go to as many dealers as possible and place a order...first one to deliver is the one I go with! The deposits are refundable so just call all the other dealers and say you changed your mind and get your deposit back. Hey, if it's a numbers game why not play their game too!?

[Archie]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

Think of it like a TWO FUNNEL process....

You were first at your dealership (you go into the funnel) and the rest go in behind you....The funnel empties into a GM Funnel in March. First out of the dealer funnel, are the first into the GM funnel. Regardless how full your dealerships funnel was, all funnels into the GM funnel are treated equally. As the GM funnel empties, cars appear.


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this is by far the best explaination yet.

nice job

[FLYNNZL1]

If that is true, I guess I am number one, after the first 24 preorders.

[hoozat]

My dealer told me today that they are also factoring in the amount of Mustangs sold in the area around each dealer, and using that number as part of the prioroty delivery formula... anyone heard this ??

[drewauby5]

Flynn, yes but just because they had 24 preorders doesn't mean anything. Those 24 preorders are counted toward their allocation for the 1st 3 quarters. If they only have 24 allocated for 1st 3 quarters you will have to wait until 4th quarter just to get put into system. ( see Scotty's explanation) Thus October....might want to look elsewhere if looking to get a littler earlier, or at least call dealer and find out how many allocations they actually have for first three quarters...Just some helpful advice.

[OrangeCruSSh]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

Think of it like a TWO FUNNEL process....

You were first at your dealership (you go into the funnel) and the rest go in behind you....The funnel empties into a GM Funnel in March. First out of the dealer funnel, are the first into the GM funnel. Regardless how full your dealerships funnel was, all funnels into the GM funnel are treated equally. As the GM funnel empties, cars appear.


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Ok, I get your funnel analogy. However you lost me in the middle. I understand the dealer funnel but the GM funnel is where you lost me. Once the dealer funnel is emptied into the GM funnel are saying ALL the dealer funnels are emptied into the GM funnel? If so, then all #1s at each dealer in the country are produced by GM first and go to their respective dealers? Or are all the cars emptied into the GM funnel input at the same time and GM decides which orders are actually produced and sent back to the dealers? If it's the latter of the 2 then it really doesn't matter what your order # was at your dealer..it's one big frekkin pool that GM decides what to produce and when.

[detroitboy]

Yup...OrangeCruSSh seems to have a point. And then theres the third funnel at the railroad storage yards and transport storage yards where two or more little whirlpools go into one big funnel in any order they want and come out in any order they want.

[OrangeCruSSh]

Originally Posted by detroitboy

Yup...OrangeCruSSh seems to have a point. And then theres the third funnel at the railroad storage yards and transport storage yards where two or more little whirlpools go into one big funnel in any order they want and come out in any order they want.

UGHHHHHHH!!!!!

I need to buy a lottery ticket...at this rate my odds of winning the lottery are better then actually getting my camaro! LOL

[FLYNNZL1]

good too know, I just emailed my salesman to ask him, thank you

[Never2LowChevy]

A friend of mine was order number 7 of 16 (I am #8) and her order was the first one pulled from the dealer we ordered at. Seems like to me, that GM is pulling random orders from dealers. I would think that the allocations just mean that you would get your car in the first quarter and being the first one to order at a certain dealer dont mean anything except that your in the first allotment of cars.

Say the dealer has 10 allotments and presold 12 and I am the first to order from that dealer. The first ten will get their cars in the first qtr but not in the order that they showed up to order from the dealer. GM can pull any of the 10 orders they want.

Is this right???

[BBfan24]

here's how i think it goes. i think it's a market thing. whatever market would make the most money, or benefit the most with a car being sold sooner will get it's allocations first. GM determines the order they will take cars based on the dealership. they are not looking at your order dates. once GM figures out which dealership gets priority they tell the dealer to send in the order. it is the dealer who will figure out which car he wants to send in for his allotment. the dealer needs to send in his order other wise he will have to wait until the next time around for his allotments to be pulled by GM. if you are first, but you have a part that is on constraint he will bump your order for the next car.

GM is taking cars for roughly a six month period. if you are number 3 at a dealership that only has 6 allotments, your car will more than likely be pulled during the third months allotments. if you are number 3 at a dealership with 18 allotments, with no constraints, your car will be pulled the first month.

i hope this helps

[avol2]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

Think of it like a TWO FUNNEL process....

You were first at your dealership (you go into the funnel) and the rest go in behind you....The funnel empties into a GM Funnel in March. First out of the dealer funnel, are the first into the GM funnel. Regardless how full your dealerships funnel was, all funnels into the GM funnel are treated equally. As the GM funnel empties, cars appear.


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that makes sense to me.. BUT bigger dealerships get to drop their funnel first? < oh never mind....

I will just go and have a nother cup of coffee and turn the news on.... yawn.... It'll be here soon enough...

PS I am Priority #1 order at my dealer

[mbauer14085RS/SS2010]

i know i talked to basil chevy last week and he was telling me 8 weeks if i ordered my car and i got his last allocation for april. now he is the 2nd largest chevy dealer in the country. but even i think that is way to fast to get my car.

[augrad94]

Originally Posted by Chevyrocker

Avol2: They definitely do know what they're doing. GM is not as stupid as everyone thinks. They have a plan for building the vehicles, trust me. The fact that dragons dealer did that is not uncommon. Just because some of us placed our orders with our dealers back in October means little to nothing really. GM sends out weekly allocations to each of its thousands of dealers so that every dealer can get cars regardless of how many the pre-sold. If anything, you guys should be mad at your dealers that took your orders knowing damn well they would not be built until June or July. GM did send memos to dealers advising them of how to handle the process and stated that it was up to them whether or not they would pre-sell these vehicles.

GM builds these cars based on placed orders by dealers in accordance with the allocations sent to them. If a dealer has 12 orders and 2 allocations, guess what happens to the other 10...

Again, if a dealer has 0 orders and 12 allocations, he will most definitely have his vehicles faster than the guy with 2 allocations.

It all has to do with dealer performance, location and market.

Sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you, that is not my intention, but when people bad mouth a company when they don't really understand the business, it makes me a little frustrated.

While this might be true, my dealer was allocated 5 for April. Guess how may GM has told them were built… 0! That is what makes no sense to me.