Another wreck..Question about it..

[LadiesMan217]

It probably has crumple zones. The surrounding shell of the car transfers the impact around the car to protect the passengers in the car.

[LadiesMan217]

Maybe it's the rear view mirror. It's huge. (jk)

[Mr Twisty]

If it was energy transferred to the 1/4 panel from initial impact, there would be a gap in the door to 1/4 panel.

It's secondary impact damage, or a lazy wrecker driver.

It looks like the airbag blew out the windshield on yeller, but neither frontal impacts were hard enough to cause that much damage all the way back.

[GMRULZ]

Originally Posted by Indpowr

With all of these wrecked Avis Camaros and other Camaros why are the crumbling in the rear with a front end impact? Not sure if this silver Avis car was posted here before or not.




Look at the rear...



Really cool photo when the person that took these photos of the silver car to look at the breaks found.........................."The Mole" ( I did not know he escaped off the Canada line)


I agree that insurance companies are going to start to notice and our rates will start to go up..

Uuuummmmm...No... I`ve worked in the collision industry, insurance side for 13 years, the rear damage is not force transference thru the car, it came into contact w/ something else. No question.

[RSHugger]

^Agree, those are impact deformations not crumple zones. If this was a crumple zone then the body line would also be wrinkled along with the quarter panel. Are people really trying to stir up stuff where there is nothing to stir up? Need to relax, enjoy the Camaro and do what we can in a positive way to keep our Camaro alive and not die again. I am still lurking and waiting but I will have me a new Camaro to place next to my 69 RS... I can't wait and neither can my kids!

[JJ#48Racing]

Avis is going to pull their camaro rentals if people keep crashing them at this rate. Too many people renting them to joyride that can't handle the power. At least I assume that's what's happening.

[jakemaxx]

Where at in Washington was the silver camaro wrecked at?! i have been looking for one on the road have never seen one also been looking to rent one from Avis. but nothing

[Buckbo]

They definately appear to be related to the front impact to me, on the silver one anyway. The car is a unibody, which, transfers the energy of an impact through the entire vehicle. The lower part on the front quarter bulging shows the compression of the side. It probably took alot of effort to get the door open but the door wouldn't necessarily dent because the doors aren't integral to the structural rigidity of the car like the body panels. Since the body is now slightly twisted due to an off center hit it would be easy for the rear panels to buckle and while both pics This didn't occur as easily on older cars since the metal is thicker.
The other option is that after the accident the drivers were so mad the started kicking the car!
Just remember this is just my opinion and it doesn't matter if it's different than yours. So there is no need to start with the "You a**hole! You don't know what the f*** you're talking about!" notes.

[Hylton]

This car is one of the safest GM has ever designed and built. Not going to get into physics but the energy of any impact has to go somewhere and with these cars, they have managed to let the energy basically bypass the cabin to the back of the car which is pretty incredible when you think about it.

Rememeber, the rear quarter panels start at the A pillar. Yes, the repair bill in such accidents will be high as a result but at least you'll be alive to be able to pay the bill!

[CWI]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Uuuummmmm...No... I`ve worked in the collision industry, insurance side for 13 years, the rear damage is not force transference thru the car, it came into contact w/ something else. No question.

If you look close at the drivers door on th eSIM, it is crinkled a little, looks like energy from front impact. No sigh of outside force applied to that door.
On the yellow, the passenger door is badly misaligned, My opinion is these where both caused by front impact and energy displaced throughout the car

Originally Posted by Hylton

This car is one of the safest GM has ever designed and built. Not going to get into physics but the energy of any impact has to go somewhere and with these cars, they have managed to let the energy basically bypass the cabin to the back of the car which is pretty incredible when you think about it.

Rememeber, the rear quarter panels start at the A pillar. Yes, the repair bill in such accidents will be high as a result but at least you'll be alive to be able to pay the bill!

100%

[jdurhan]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Uuuummmmm...No... I`ve worked in the collision industry, insurance side for 13 years, the rear damage is not force transference thru the car, it came into contact w/ something else. No question.

Like a size 11 shoe..

[Vash]

It's supposed to do that so you can walk away.

Just always gonna have to keep full coverage and GAP + uninsured.

I love cars so much but at the end of the day it's a replaceable machine not even worth a life or a life of pain from injuries.

[maherj2]

Bah, clearly damaged due to impact. I can only imagine what people are doing in V8 rental Camaros...

[GMRULZ]

Buckbo and CWIweldace, I am ICAR platinum certified. I have written collision estimates on approx 5 cars a day, 5 days a week for 13 years and have followed them throughout the repair process...

Link:
http://www.i-car.com/html_pages/about_icar.shtml

I know what I`m talking about. Its not just opinion. I mean no disrespect, but if you understand that in a frontal collision a car is designed to crush from the front bumer to the A pillar and deform to lessen the impact to the passengers, once it gets the the A-pillar and all the way back to the B pillar (passenger compartment) it is designed to not give at all (that doesn`t mean in a severe enough crash that it couldn`t give) and uses HSS or UHSS (high strength or ultra high strength steel) to prevent passenger compartment intrusion.

So in other words once mass movement hits the A-pillar, intrusion and metal deformation is supposed to STOP. Reason, you are into the passenger compartment at that point, what you are trying to protect. The damage on the 1/4`s is secondary impact damage ie.. another impact..to those panels, not some sort of energy transference. This car is built like a tank it weighs almost 4k lbs. Trust me when I tell you its not energy transference.

If your theory were true I would cancel my order right now. This car would be the most unsafe car on the road. Even a Pruis would be more structurally sound from what I`ve see in the field...Not just opinion....fact...