Gt500 fails to hit 200mph

[el ess A]

The ford faithful will always try to strawman the argument that nobody else seems able to get to 200, but to me, 190, 196 mph is plenty fast enough!

Let's all be thankful we have cars of any brand that have >85 mph speedometers and can actually come close to burying them. Three cheers for Horsepower, in whatever form it comes!

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by el ess X

The ford faithful will always try to strawman the argument that nobody else seems able to get to 200, but to me, 190, 196 mph is plenty fast enough!

Let's all be thankful we have cars of any brand that have >85 mph speedometers and can actually come close to burying them. Three cheers for Horsepower, in whatever form it comes!

The "faithful" regardless of brand affiliation will always defend their brand whether it's 200 MPH, or 7:41 Ring time. They are recorded, but difficult to achieve on a daily basis. They are marketing numbers, pure and simple.

[el ess A]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Mustang fan in any regard, as my "religion" is deeply embedded within GM. Recent chest x-rays suggest my heart is shaped like a bowtie. But I respect the "enemy"! Competition for the performance segment makes us all winners.

[radz28]

I don't think Ford lied about it. Under the right conditions, and at the right track, I'm sure it could. However - at the same time - a hero run can't always be gospel. Look how hard it was for Lingenfelter's ZL1 to get to 200. That heatsoak is a beesh, and running that much boost isn't helping matters. I'm sure that over-rev' feature was pretty much defeated in that run.

I don't could the Shelby out for 200-MPH, but it would be nice to see it reproduced. It doesn't really matter in the end, to me though.

[Camarowguy]

This is old news. I posted the article months ago. Maybe from a different mag, but nonetheless, lives up to fords fullofshitness as usual. Always over rate and under deliver. The only company I've ever heard of that had a recall to make more power when people were dynoing their cars stock and not getting what ford advertised.

[Russell James]

Ford has a 5 mile oval at their Romeo MI proving grounds. I've heard some NASCAR testing there that sounds like 'Dega x 2. I know the cup cars have gotten way up over 200 there, but that is with over 900 hp and incredibly smooth aero.

The aero is the problem with the pony cars, and the heat soak once you start spending so many minutes at WOT. Plus it might kick into cat protection mode and try to prevent overheating the cats. 635 hp can easily take ZR1 up over 200, but it's very aero. Put that same hp in a brick of a pony car and there is going to be a huge wall that will take forever to inch past around 190ish. And when spending forever at WOT trying to inch up one mph at a time.... that is when the heat soak, and cat protection might start to become a problem.

Downhill, with a tail wind, on a 20 mile straight.... she'll do 200. I'll forgive those last few mphs... it's a bad ass car.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

This is old news. I posted the article months ago. Maybe from a different mag, but nonetheless, lives up to fords fullofshitness as usual. Always over rate and under deliver. The only company I've ever heard of that had a recall to make more power when people were dynoing their cars stock and not getting what ford advertised.

Yeah - but they fixed that car and underrated the replacement, lol. They terminated

[eolson]

Great, let's see the test videos of the aftermarket ZL1's easily going over 200mph, otherwise it's just an assumption.

Ford should have officially rated the GT500 at 195mph, which numerous mags have taken it to, but they got greedy. Erik

[driyac]

Originally Posted by el ess X

The ford faithful will always try to strawman the argument that nobody else seems able to get to 200, but to me, 190, 196 mph is plenty fast enough!

Let's all be thankful we have cars of any brand that have >85 mph speedometers and can actually come close to burying them. Three cheers for Horsepower, in whatever form it comes!

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Don't speak such blasphemy... GM is the almighty that can do no wrong and tell no lie.... Except wait it's a corporation using marketing tactics. Just like Ford. :rollseyes:

Originally Posted by NVmyZL1

So, if nobody else is ever able to hit a 7:41 ring time in a ZL1 , can we call GM a liar, too?

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

The "faithful" regardless of brand affiliation will always defend their brand whether it's 200 MPH, or 7:41 Ring time. They are recorded, but difficult to achieve on a daily basis. They are marketing numbers, pure and simple.

Originally Posted by el ess X

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Mustang fan in any regard, as my "religion" is deeply embedded within GM. Recent chest x-rays suggest my heart is shaped like a bowtie. But I respect the "enemy"! Competition for the performance segment makes us all winners.

Originally Posted by radz28

I don't think Ford lied about it. Under the right conditions, and at the right track, I'm sure it could. However - at the same time - a hero run can't always be gospel. Look how hard it was for Lingenfelter's ZL1 to get to 200. That heatsoak is a beesh, and running that much boost isn't helping matters. I'm sure that over-rev' feature was pretty much defeated in that run.

I don't could the Shelby out for 200-MPH, but it would be nice to see it reproduced. It doesn't really matter in the end, to me though.

Originally Posted by Russell James

Ford has a 5 mile oval at their Romeo MI proving grounds. I've heard some NASCAR testing there that sounds like 'Dega x 2. I know the cup cars have gotten way up over 200 there, but that is with over 900 hp and incredibly smooth aero.

The aero is the problem with the pony cars, and the heat soak once you start spending so many minutes at WOT. Plus it might kick into cat protection mode and try to prevent overheating the cats. 635 hp can easily take ZR1 up over 200, but it's very aero. Put that same hp in a brick of a pony car and there is going to be a huge wall that will take forever to inch past around 190ish. And when spending forever at WOT trying to inch up one mph at a time.... that is when the heat soak, and cat protection might start to become a problem.

Downhill, with a tail wind, on a 20 mile straight.... she'll do 200. I'll forgive those last few mphs... it's a bad ass car.

Originally Posted by radz28

Yeah - but they fixed that car and underrated the replacement, lol. They terminated

Originally Posted by eolson

Great, let's see the test videos of the aftermarket ZL1's easily going over 200mph, otherwise it's just an assumption.

Ford should have officially rated the GT500 at 195mph, which numerous mags have taken it to, but they got greedy. Erik

Still didn't hit 202 mph.

and the ring may not be touched when you have some of the best drivers in the world driving.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

196 MPH is 315 KM/H
202 MPH is 330 KM/H

Also that article says 200 MPH which is 321 KM/H.

Like it even matters, Ford tested at Nardo where they would have had more than enough room to reach 202 MPH, and who the **** is even travelling at those speeds. Certainly no one in North America (Legally)…

This reminded me of a quote that I find funny.

Okay, if you’re going to question the importance of an actor’s signature on a plastic helmet from a movie based on a comic book, then all of our lives have no meaning!

Originally Posted by NVmyZL1

So, if nobody else is ever able to hit a 7:41 ring time in a ZL1 , can we call GM a liar, too?

There is a massive difference between driving a car in a straight line, and navigating a car as fast as humanly possible through over 150 turns of varying difficulties.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

This reminded me of a quote that I find funny.






There is a massive difference between driving a car in a straight line, and navigating a car as fast as humanly possible through over 150 turns of varying difficulties.

Agreed and a car should go faster in a straight line than around a round track or any track for that matter. There is clearly more to it than there seems but I think we can all agree the Mustang and Camaro are about as aerodynamically setup for going 200 MPH as a brick is...

[trademaster]

Conditions, conditions, conditions. Altitude, temperature, barometric pressure, tire pressure, driver weight, among many other things all impact top speed. Pobst said it would hit 200+ in ideal conditions and I believe him, there is no reason not to. Aero limited top speed is a whole different ball game than a governed or gear limited top speed. If you want to call Ford a liar because their claim hasn't been reproduced, I suggest you examine the 1.6 60ft achieved by GM in a stock tire zl1. Has anyone else done it? No. Does that mean it isn't possible with perfect track conditions and a perfect launch? No.

[Camaro_Corvette]

With ideal conditions, I can kick a football for a field goal from 80 yards out.

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

With ideal conditions, I can kick a football for a field goal from 80 yards out.

No you can't.