Vararam Ram Air V

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by Hemlawk

Xanthos, you let that little kid in your sig drive your Camaro?

Um... well, first off, thats me - second off, thats not my camaro (as if I would order red!) - third off, I unfortunately never got to drive it.

I'm waiting till 2011 to order.
- Xanthos

[MontyCarlo]

What did you switch your major to? You're not in a BA field now are you?!?

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by MontyCarlo

What did you switch your major to? You're not in a BA field now are you?!?

Heh - Nursing.
- Xanthos

[MontyCarlo]

That's quite a change. Medical stuff's cool, and I minored in biomedical engineering, but personally I couldn't handle a field where the problems you need to solve as uncertain as they are in actual medical care. Give me cold aluminum any day.

[Hemlawk]

Nurses make a good living. But I couldn't deal with that sh!t. Btw Xanthos, I was just bustin your chops.

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by Hemlawk

Nurses make a good living. But I couldn't deal with that sh!t. Btw Xanthos, I was just bustin your chops.

I know.

Nursing is just a precurser to what I want to do - I'd like the be a paramedic, but the positions are very competitive here. So, I'll get my RN and my EMT certs, and work as a nurse till I can get a paramedic position.

I enjoyed the engineering thing, but I want to feel like I'm helping people (in a more tangible way) and medical stuff has always come easily to me.
- Xanthos

[patriotpa]

So if I understand this correctly, the best of all NA options using the stock MAF would be to shove the shortest, widest funnel possible on the front of the MAF. The problem is making this thing not look like shit.

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by patriotpa

So if I understand this correctly, the best of all NA options using the stock MAF would be to shove the shortest, widest funnel possible on the front of the MAF. The problem is making this thing not look like shit.

Heh! Well, there are other ways to do it, but thats what I find works best.

I'll be making an intake that has a single 3 inch y-pipe coming off the throttle body, splitting into two three inch pipes. Those pipes will travel sideways along the radiator, and have a cone filter on each end.

The MAF sensor will be mounted in that single pipe, right in front of the throttle body. I'm going to try and position the cone filters a little higher than the throttle body, to get a bit of gravitation potential.

Basically, I'm going to try to minimize resistance to flow, and yet still have the filters close enough to the throttle body to have a quick throttle response. I'm shooting for getting the filters no more than 10-12 inches on either side of the throttle body.

I'll be using Spectre's modular intake pieces. The 3 inch chromed plastic ones, painted with a semi-gloss black ceramic brake caliper paint.

I may or may not also make some heat shields to go over half the cone filter and block them from drawing air directly off the radiator. Being as close to the radiator as they will be, I don't want them sucking in that ultra hot air.
- Xanthos

[MontyCarlo]

Originally Posted by patriotpa

So if I understand this correctly, the best of all NA options using the stock MAF would be to shove the shortest, widest funnel possible on the front of the MAF. The problem is making this thing not look like shit.

Hm, I think there would be such a thing as "too short," where your funnel is no longer sloped enough to really be a funnel. But short is generally good, wide is generally good, and matching the funnel's edges up with the edges of the car's openings so air can't slip around the outside of the funnel easily would also be good. Oh, and avoid corners & bends in the tube as much as possible.

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by MontyCarlo

Hm, I think there would be such a thing as "too short," where your funnel is no longer sloped enough to really be a funnel. But short is generally good, wide is generally good, and matching the funnel's edges up with the edges of the car's openings so air can't slip around the outside of the funnel easily would also be good. Oh, and avoid corners & bends in the tube as much as possible.

Generally good advice!

However, bends will pretty much be a necessity with this cars engine compartment layout - I've had my hands in it and there's really no way to mount a cone filter (maybe if you made a custom box for a flat filter though) directly in front of the throttle body. ESPECIALLY not if you want to have the MAF sensor in there still - heh! You'll have to put it off to the side somewhere.
- Xanthos

[JSOC_MQ1]

So ... are you (XanthosV6) saying that potentially this Vararam (fake) Ram Air could produce as much HP as say the LMR, Fastlane, or other CAI's?

Sorry, I just looking for clarification on this subject.

P.S. According to Vararam
"(The V-8 system) We are completing the final tweaks on the final pre production unit , wile our testers continue to run up test miles with the prototype development systems we provided them.

We are checking for vehicle variation now between the V-8 cars."

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by JSOC_MQ1

So ... are you (XanthosV6) saying that potentially this Vararam (fake) Ram Air could produce as much HP as say the LMR, Fastlane, or other CAI's?

Sorry, I just looking for clarification on this subject.

P.S. According to Vararam
"(The V-8 system) We are completing the final tweaks on the final pre production unit , wile our testers continue to run up test miles with the prototype development systems we provided them.

We are checking for vehicle variation now between the V-8 cars."

Potentially yes, though I wouldn't spend that much for it. And you also have to understand that the filter has a lot to do with it too, as stated earlier. Also, the filter might flow as much air, but not filter as well. There are a lot of variables, and not having tested this intake myself, I can't vouch for many of them.

What you have to understand is that a short ram/ram air intake will produce power in a different way than a cold air intake. For the most part, a cold air intake looks to get colder air. A short ram, however, looks solely to decrease pumping losses and get as close to the ideal 14.7 PSI as possible. The short ram will produce the same amount of power, but likely at a slightly higher RPM - and also theoretically be sustainable to a higher RPM. It will also have a slight increase in throttle response over a CAI, because the air would take less time to travel the shorter distance, and be traveling at a higher velocity.
- Xanthos

P.S. - for those looking for a visual of what I was talking about, something like this but for a front throttle body engine, not a top carbed, and fitted to our engine compartment.

[phenixdragon]

Hm...I am looking to pick up a CAI but I am really wondering if they are really getting this amount of an increase.

[noisemker]

Originally Posted by phenixdragon

Hm...I am looking to pick up a CAI but I am really wondering if they are really getting this amount of an increase.

don't think they ever made these for the V6