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*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-10-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

does anyone else notice the 250 hp gap? ~250 hp V6, ~300 hp V6, ~550 hp sc V8? somethings missing in there.

Yup, there is: a new Northstar V8 that sales showed nobody wanted anyways, so they shelved it.

lil_red_v6 · 05-10-2008, 01:01 PM

have you noticed the new camaro and the caddy coup have similar lines i mean i know they are both form gm i think its cool

*TAG UR IT* · 05-10-2008, 02:02 PM

HOLY CRAP!!!!!

Oh, one of those would be in my garage in a heartbeat if I could only afford it!!!!

camaro5 · 05-10-2008, 02:59 PM

The only way I could afford that is with the GMAC Smart Buy. For example I looked at a $55,000 Corvette; $22,000 down(trades) - 72 mos conventional payment almost $700.

Smart Buy 48 mos $22,000 down - $299 month. Final payment around $22,000, so you refinance that or trade the car with no equity, but no $700 payments.

Or buy loaded mid-level Camaro and own it for around $300 mo $22,000 trade-in 60 months.

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*DGthe3* · 05-10-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

have you noticed the new camaro and the caddy coup have similar lines i mean i know they are both form gm i think its cool

Caddy designers help with the Camaro.

lil_red_v6 · 05-10-2008, 06:24 PM

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wild_weasel · 05-10-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Yup, there is: a new Northstar V8 that sales showed nobody wanted anyways, so they shelved it.

Nobody wants a Northstar V8 since after about 30,000 miles those engines burn oil at a pretty good clip. Plus, GM has better engines lying around anyway.

GhoSSt · 05-10-2008, 10:50 PM

The Cadillac Coupe borrows heavily from an old Mercedes. See below this very old hat look. Also I think the CTS is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen. Especially HUGE taillights that work their creepy way up onto the top of the rear quarters, in a demented Volvo kind of way. Hideous.

Cadillac won't get rid of the egg crate grille because they think it is essential Cadillac. But why keep the most ghastly things simply because other cars have had them? I mean, GM said "thick chunky body cladding is essential Pontiac" and that was absurd. I think it is time for a new grille.

*TAG UR IT* · 05-11-2008, 12:47 AM

Can't wait to see the video.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-11-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GhoSSt

Also I think the CTS is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen....Hideous.

Cadillac won't get rid of the egg crate grille because they think it is essential Cadillac. But why keep the most ghastly things....I think it is time for a new grille.

I'm definitely sorry you feel that way! :( Next to Camaro, I think the CTS is the most gorgeous car on the road right now, inside and out!

And, ironically, I think the grille is one of my favorite features!!

EDIT: I didn't mean the Northstar comment like that

. I meant that more poeple were opting for the more powerful V6 instead of the V8. That's why it didn't make enough sense to continue with the UV8 program. That's why they shelved it: GM had enough foresight to recognise a consumer-preference shift.

*TAG UR IT* · 05-11-2008, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I'm definitely sorry you feel that way! :( Next to Camaro, I think the CTS is the most gorgeous car on the road right now, inside and out!

And, ironically, I think the grille is one of my favorite features!!

I'll agree to that.

And, if the engine does start burning oil a little faster than normal after 30K miles which brings down the resale value, I'll be looking to pick one up, for sure!

wild_weasel · 05-11-2008, 05:27 AM

I retract my post on the 30k milage figure. I think its actually after 50k miles that the Caddy we have with the Northstar started burning oil.

I'm used to the Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep absolute-upper-limit of 30,000 miles before everything breaks. Don't even get me started...you could hand me the keys to a new Challenger and I would sell it in a heartbeat to get a Camaro. You can end up spending a quarter of the price of the Dodge POS just on maintenance (new trans, new engine, new brake rotos...etc.).

I think the Northstar engine is a great powerplant, you just gotta be sure you check the oil fairly frequently, which I do anyway, so no complaints from my end (especially since it's not in my personal car), just an observation.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 05-11-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GhoSSt

Also I think the CTS is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen. Especially HUGE taillights that work their creepy way up onto the top of the rear quarters, in a demented Volvo kind of way. Hideous.

(thought i'd never use this on this website, but here it goes)

:(

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your opinion...they can't make a car please everyone...

*TAG UR IT* · 05-11-2008, 01:01 PM

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I retract my post on the 30k milage figure. I think its actually after 50k miles that the Caddy we have with the Northstar started burning oil.

Heck, I'll STILL take it! hehe

05-10-2008, 02:59 PM	#18
camaro5 Drives: X-15 Velocipede Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,630	The only way I could afford that is with the GMAC Smart Buy. For example I looked at a $55,000 Corvette; $22,000 down(trades) - 72 mos conventional payment almost $700. Smart Buy 48 mos $22,000 down - $299 month. Final payment around $22,000, so you refinance that or trade the car with no equity, but no $700 payments. Or buy loaded mid-level Camaro and own it for around $300 mo $22,000 trade-in 60 months. v __________________ Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge General Motors ASEP, A.S. Automotive Technology, Telecommunications Specialist, CISCO Network Engineer STANDARD DISCLAIMER camaro5 is furnishing this information "as is". camaro5 does not provide any warranty of the information whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the information will be error-free.

05-10-2008, 10:50 PM	#22
GhoSSt Drives: BMW 335 Cabrio Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 35	The Cadillac Coupe borrows heavily from an old Mercedes. See below this very old hat look. Also I think the CTS is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen. Especially HUGE taillights that work their creepy way up onto the top of the rear quarters, in a demented Volvo kind of way. Hideous. Cadillac won't get rid of the egg crate grille because they think it is essential Cadillac. But why keep the most ghastly things simply because other cars have had them? I mean, GM said "thick chunky body cladding is essential Pontiac" and that was absurd. I think it is time for a new grille. Attached Images __________________

05-11-2008, 05:27 AM	#26
wild_weasel Ombudsman Drives: Black 03 Jeep Liberty Renegade Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United States Posts: 90	I retract my post on the 30k milage figure. I think its actually after 50k miles that the Caddy we have with the Northstar started burning oil. I'm used to the Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep absolute-upper-limit of 30,000 miles before everything breaks. Don't even get me started...you could hand me the keys to a new Challenger and I would sell it in a heartbeat to get a Camaro. You can end up spending a quarter of the price of the Dodge POS just on maintenance (new trans, new engine, new brake rotos...etc.). I think the Northstar engine is a great powerplant, you just gotta be sure you check the oil fairly frequently, which I do anyway, so no complaints from my end (especially since it's not in my personal car), just an observation. __________________ YGBSM Eagles may soar, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines. I want my 2010 Z28, and I want it now. Black Graphite Metallic please. (Thanks to Mindz and Jinx for the avatar/sig pic respectively)

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lil_red_v6 one wheelin Drives: 2004 yamaha r6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: saginaw Posts: 2,200	have you noticed the new camaro and the caddy coup have similar lines i mean i know they are both form gm i think its cool

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