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PQ · 09-09-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 211269

Wow, it makes THAT big a difference?

Yes. Look at the vids in my thread. Can't deny the difference. Now if your car is already running right then it won't make a difference at all.

BigMatt · 09-09-2009, 10:42 AM

+1 for cooler weather and fuse pull

1badSS/RS · 09-09-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DrumDawg

Fuse mod.... Are you suggesting that GM wouldn't have jumped on and fixed the problem as soon as possible? This would have also been the perfect time to tweek the programing a little. I just think that it is just to much of a coeincidence. Maybe they gave the Transformer Editions a "HOT" set-up!

All we can do is hope.

levi1922 · 09-09-2009, 11:10 AM

i know we are talking about the L99, not the V6, but some cars recommend premium for high performance, and other require it for the enigine to run right.
as far as them modding the computers at the factory i dont think they will. if you follow the owners manual, you will not have a problem with the cars performance.

PQ · 09-09-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by levi1922

i know we are talking about the L99, not the V6, but some cars recommend premium for high performance, and other require it for the enigine to run right.
as far as them modding the computers at the factory i dont think they will. if you follow the owners manual, you will not have a problem with the cars performance.

The trick was getting the DEALERS to follow the manual. lol

*CamaroSpike23* · 09-09-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PQ

The trick was getting the DEALERS to follow the manual. lol

levi1922 · 09-09-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

The trick was getting the DEALERS to follow the manual. lol

true true.
i would not be happy if i was spending that much money for a car, and the dealer was too cheap to fill it with premium

BrianGriffin78 · 09-09-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DrumDawg

Recently the L99 equiped Camaros have started to post some really quick 1/4 mile times(12's) compared to just a month ago. Is it possible that the engineer's at the plant beefed up the computer programing in response to the poor performance complaints? Maybe they upgraded the programing when they were correcting the regular unleaded performance problem? Can anyone on the inside confirm my theory?

Car could of been tuned up and had a octane boost. The Auto has the potential to really perform if you know what you are doing and get the proper work done on the car.

DrumDawg · 09-09-2009, 05:29 PM

Those two cars that ran 12's claim to be bone stock. Can someone from the team confirm that the program was upgraded?

toehead93 · 09-09-2009, 05:34 PM

Most runs were in summer heat, the cars run in the 12's had cool air. That is basically why, same goes for the difference between the fast and slow LS3 cars. Take the fastest LS# and L99 car to my track in 90* heat and they'll run mid 13's all day. I personally don't think break-in plays much of a role in modern cars, that was something that used to be important but not really for the past 10+

SGOS252382 · 09-09-2009, 05:49 PM

The difference is the cooler weather.

And the L99 is fast. Lots of guys have been saying that for months. I got my L99 in early June and my car has always been real fast. I know several other guys with early builds and their cars are real fast (low 13s in hot humid air).

As mentioned
Some of the fastest L99 1/4 mile times have come from early builds. The recent 12.9 by an L99 was due to 68 degree air and excellent driving. He pulled a 1.93 sec 60' time (that's just excellent driving and how you pull a high 12 sec run in a stock L99).

This winter high 12s and very low 13s will be common out of recent and early builds (by guys that know how to drive at the faster tracks).

The exceptions to the fast times will be coming from the guys that for whatever reason are stuck in "low octane mode."

patriotpa · 09-09-2009, 06:10 PM

I bark second when in Sport mode at about 75% throttle. TC ON.

joelster · 09-09-2009, 06:14 PM

Some guys just get confused about the gasoline aspect. I'll try to explain what happens...

An L99 Auto Camaro will RUN ALL DAY LONG ON SHIT GAS, it just won't make 400hp like you want it to. If you want all of the power that you paid for, run premium at all times, this IS NOT DEBATEABLE! It's a freakin' no brainer. A lower octane rating (ie 87) means that the gasoline has a lower flash point than premium gas such as 93. A flash point is a pressure at which it will combust without a spark (in a nutshell). If you run a high-compression engine with junk gas, the gasoline can ignite during the compression stroke and the flamefront from that will collide with the flamefront generated by the spark plug. This makes an audible "knock" noise and is usually picked up by the knock sensors. Then the computer pulls a lot of timing and the next combustion event happens much cooler (less power) and the knock is gone. Your car will now have about 300 flywheel horsepower, just like the V-6.

nessa131 · 09-09-2009, 06:18 PM

sorry - I'm new to the website- but have followed for a while- I will be getting my 2SS RS in a few weeks- what is the fuse mod? is that something the dealer can do or do I do it? I want all the power I can get!!!!

09-09-2009, 11:10 AM	#18
levi1922 Drives: 2LT RS CGM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,378	i know we are talking about the L99, not the V6, but some cars recommend premium for high performance, and other require it for the enigine to run right. as far as them modding the computers at the factory i dont think they will. if you follow the owners manual, you will not have a problem with the cars performance. __________________

09-09-2009, 05:29 PM	#23
DrumDawg Drives: BumbleBee, 67 Firebird,79 Porsche Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Merritt Island, FL Posts: 388	Those two cars that ran 12's claim to be bone stock. Can someone from the team confirm that the program was upgraded? __________________ Ordered 9July09-2SS,RS,Transformer 1100 = Preliminary Order:7/13/09-NMGCZB 3000 = Accepted By Production Control-09/14/2009 3400 = Broadcast:09/14/2009 3800 = Produced:09/17/2009 2G1FK1EJ5A9147250 4000 = Available to ship 28Sept 4200 = Shipped-Rail-Detroit at 3AM on 5Oct, Departed for Miami, Ohio @ 3AM, arrived in Cincinnati, Ohio, 7 Oct 0749 arrived in Louisville Kentucky,at Kane Ave Tenn.@ 8:30PM,left for Wauhatchie, Tennesee 10Oct,Waycross GA10Oct,Jacksonville FL 11 Oct. 5000 = Delivered to the dealer 14Oct09 6000 = Delivered to the customer 17Oct09

09-09-2009, 05:34 PM	#24
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,135 View My Garage	Most runs were in summer heat, the cars run in the 12's had cool air. That is basically why, same goes for the difference between the fast and slow LS3 cars. Take the fastest LS# and L99 car to my track in 90* heat and they'll run mid 13's all day. I personally don't think break-in plays much of a role in modern cars, that was something that used to be important but not really for the past 10+ __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

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nessa131 Nessa131 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS IBM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 326	sorry - I'm new to the website- but have followed for a while- I will be getting my 2SS RS in a few weeks- what is the fuse mod? is that something the dealer can do or do I do it? I want all the power I can get!!!!