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Spec · 10-20-2015, 08:16 PM

Dude, I feel ya... except I don't have all the bells and whistles and dic indicators etc. Just a little red airbag light. I've learned to live with it... for now. Its just a little airbag light in mine. If mine did what yours is doing, I would have already fixed it.

Yep, a few weeks ago it came on. Nothing, just the light for no reason at all. It hasn't been annoying or anything like yours except for it being there, which is on a level of annoyance as well... maybe its not blasting me because mine's a 2010. Maybe just a different issue...

1400 though?? Dang...

VTSummit · 10-20-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BaronConcepts

Why do you keep going to GM dealerships? Are there any reputable independent mechanics in your area? They can all diagnose and fix the issue for half the price

Because SOME dealers are actually quite skilled and know these cars, instead of some dude who hasn't been to any training in years who you pay to "figure out" how it works. Hell, the independents around here are just as much- and take longer.

maddoggyusa · 10-21-2015, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by squat

I assume they just hooked up a scantron or something similar to the OBDII port to determine the issue. I hate shops that charge $$ for this. You can buy your own scanner for a few hundred $$, and autozone lets you use one for free.

I would go get your own scanner to get the code and then ask around at diff shops. Dealers are notoriously expensive when it comes to repairs. I never take my vehicles to dealers after they're out of warranty.

most scanners don't read airbag codes.

At a min, you should have had it written up exactly what the problem was. The exact code, etc. That's bullshit.

If you get the code, it should be fairly easy to fix. then if you have a scanner that does airbags, you replace whatever is the bad part and reset the code. I done it several times on other cars. No you don't need to reprogram the SDM.

Evil-Bee-NH · 10-21-2015, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by molsonbrador

google chevrolet customer assistance.

+1 to you my friend but that's alot like googling comcast customer assistance...

homewrecker · 10-21-2015, 02:56 AM

GM customer care read those post and help your customer with a safety issue that's been been known for a few years already.

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strongeroy · 10-21-2015, 03:43 AM

I would go get your own scanner to get the code and then ask around at diff shops

baum · 10-21-2015, 11:16 AM

Correct me if im wrong, but i thought seatbelts and airbags had lifetime warranties since they are mandated safety items??

ChocoTaco369 · 10-21-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Scalded Dog

My passenger air bag recently started malfunctioning. Did a lot of online research (most of it here on C5), and was pretty sure that it was a malfunctioning PPS (passenger Presence sensor). Many have reported a repair cost of $700... even as high as $800.

I took it to Crest Chevrolet in San Bernardino, CA. The estimate for the estimate (yep: They estimated $104 to look at the car to estimate what the repair cost would be) was bad enough... and I braced myself for an $800 stunner.

Instead, it came to $1400. Now, for $104, you don't even get a written breakdown... you get a gum- popping receptionist who gives a verbal estimate only, when she tells ya, "It'll be $1400 if you want it fixed." That's all. You then pay your $104 for the service, and you go home to curl up in the fetal position and cry.

What. The. Hell.

This seems to be a common problem in these cars... but it's not a recall item. GM won't help you out... if you don't have the money, and a Mack truck crosses the double- yellow, your passenger is going to face- plant without a pillow. And $1400 is a ridiculous, obscene, crazy number for something that is clearly a manufacturer defect, since I have certainly done nothing to the air bag system to have caused its untimely failure.

Not pleased today. Can't even drive the car, because in addition to the red lights on the dash, the warnings on the DIC, and the flashing on/ off indicator, there's an audible chime that alerts you, about once per minute, that there's a problem with the air bags. You can't ignore it... that sound will make you utterly insane. So, I can either pony up $1400 for a manufacturer defect... or I can park this f'n car. Great selection of choices.

A small recommendation:

Do not ever do business with a repair shop that charges you for an estimate. I work for a fairly large contractor - estimates are free to the customer. It is a cost of doing business.

Rock-It Man · 10-21-2015, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baum

Correct me if im wrong, but i thought seatbelts and airbags had lifetime warranties since they are mandated safety items??

This.

Read the warranty on airbags.

pickwithaustin · 10-21-2015, 11:36 AM

None of the various shops that I used for my car related work... NONE of them charge anything to diagnose a problem. I even had one vehicle giving me major issues that were intermittent... So the shop kept the car for a week and kept trying to duplicate (until they finally did). They then informed me of the issue and the cost to repair. I could have taken the car at that point, no fee paid at all. Do Not Pay for an Estimate!

VINNY1980 · 10-21-2015, 09:41 PM

That pad in the seat rips on the plastic clips that attach to seat. That's what PIO241 says.very common on camaro, traverse ,Acadia ,and enclave.

flyinlow89 · 10-22-2015, 07:30 PM

Cheaper to find used seats in the classified section....

Scalded Dog · 10-23-2015, 10:50 AM

The final chapter:

Rotolo has completed the repairs. The bill there was $905... still a chunk of change, but when you consider that Crest wanted to shake me down for $1400, I figure I'm $500 wealthier for getting a second opinion.

Crest had said that both my PPS and SDM were bad: I was skeptical that BOTH had failed simultaneously. Rotolo confirmed that my SDM was fine... only the PPS needed to be replaced. So, Crest can SMD!!!

I did get some help from a member here on C5, who sort of wants to stay anonymous. The member helped me out IMMENSELY by offering me guidance regarding who to talk to at Rotolo, somebody who was very helpful, very concerned, and, clearly, saved me $500.

I'm really glad to be back in my Camaro. The rental I was in during the repair was a Chevy Spark, and, yes, that really, truly was the most badass car on the rental lot that day. I know it's great on gas, and fits into tiny little parking spaces, but I still felt as though all of my dignity stayed back with the Camaro... I had none tooling around in the itty bitty econoshoebox. But, it got me home, got me to work, and got me back to the shop the next day.

TooCool5 · 10-23-2015, 11:38 AM

I remember this:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ervice+air+bag

10-21-2015, 11:36 AM	#24
pickwithaustin Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible and: Join Date: May 2014 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,863	None of the various shops that I used for my car related work... NONE of them charge anything to diagnose a problem. I even had one vehicle giving me major issues that were intermittent... So the shop kept the car for a week and kept trying to duplicate (until they finally did). They then informed me of the issue and the cost to repair. I could have taken the car at that point, no fee paid at all. Do Not Pay for an Estimate! __________________ --------------------------- Currently in my Garage: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible \| 1980 Corvette Stingray \| 1981 Firebird \| 1968 El Camino \| 2007 Crown Vic Police Interceptor \| 2001 Silverado \| 2001 Blazer \| 1965 Chevy C-10 \| 2007 Harley Softail Custom \| 2013 MX-5 in Copper Red Mica \| 2000 Corvette Convertible \| 2010 Corvette Grand Sport \| 2006 Audi A3 Turbo \| 2008 BMW 328i

10-22-2015, 07:30 PM	#26
flyinlow89 Smoke Alotapotomous Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brechin, Ontario Posts: 955	Cheaper to find used seats in the classified section.... __________________ 2010 Camaro TT SS. AGP twin Turbo

10-23-2015, 11:38 AM	#28
TooCool5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LS 3.6 LLT V6 325 HP Join Date: May 2009 Location: LS Posts: 4,244 View My Garage	I remember this: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ervice+air+bag __________________ 2010 Camaro Auto, Inferno Orange, Titanium Interior, Gearhead Wheels AIRAID CAI

10-20-2015, 08:16 PM	#15
Spec Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,018	Dude, I feel ya... except I don't have all the bells and whistles and dic indicators etc. Just a little red airbag light. I've learned to live with it... for now. Its just a little airbag light in mine. If mine did what yours is doing, I would have already fixed it. Yep, a few weeks ago it came on. Nothing, just the light for no reason at all. It hasn't been annoying or anything like yours except for it being there, which is on a level of annoyance as well... maybe its not blasting me because mine's a 2010. Maybe just a different issue... 1400 though?? Dang...

10-21-2015, 02:56 AM	#19
homewrecker Drives: '04 Z06, '14BMW M235i, '15 SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Diego/Los Angeles Posts: 845	GM customer care read those post and help your customer with a safety issue that's been been known for a few years already. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk

10-21-2015, 03:43 AM	#20
strongeroy Drives: bmw Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: m5 Posts: 4	I would go get your own scanner to get the code and then ask around at diff shops

10-21-2015, 11:16 AM	#21
baum Drives: 2013 1LS, 2013 Ram 1500 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minneapolis, mn Posts: 645	Correct me if im wrong, but i thought seatbelts and airbags had lifetime warranties since they are mandated safety items??

10-21-2015, 09:41 PM	#25
VINNY1980 Drives: 2010 camaro 2ss abm m6 , 2013 zl1 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 46	That pad in the seat rips on the plastic clips that attach to seat. That's what PIO241 says.very common on camaro, traverse ,Acadia ,and enclave.

10-23-2015, 10:50 AM	#27
Scalded Dog Drives: 2011 1LT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 3,029	The final chapter: Rotolo has completed the repairs. The bill there was $905... still a chunk of change, but when you consider that Crest wanted to shake me down for $1400, I figure I'm $500 wealthier for getting a second opinion. Crest had said that both my PPS and SDM were bad: I was skeptical that BOTH had failed simultaneously. Rotolo confirmed that my SDM was fine... only the PPS needed to be replaced. So, Crest can SMD!!! I did get some help from a member here on C5, who sort of wants to stay anonymous. The member helped me out IMMENSELY by offering me guidance regarding who to talk to at Rotolo, somebody who was very helpful, very concerned, and, clearly, saved me $500. I'm really glad to be back in my Camaro. The rental I was in during the repair was a Chevy Spark, and, yes, that really, truly was the most badass car on the rental lot that day. I know it's great on gas, and fits into tiny little parking spaces, but I still felt as though all of my dignity stayed back with the Camaro... I had none tooling around in the itty bitty econoshoebox. But, it got me home, got me to work, and got me back to the shop the next day.