Let's say your SUPERCHARGED 'Z28' is dead...

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

how about you grow up and respect other peoples opinions.

Indeed. Please respect one another's posts.

[racedad70]

Well,if no hipo Camaro I guess I will go in another direction.I know there will be aftermarket goodies,but you run into warranty issues. Sorry GM.

[HOTCIVIC]

Originally Posted by Captainbob

Unfortunatly, the GT500 will still rule the drag strip.. I'll be content romping on ZO6's like I've been doing for nearly 2 yrs now. with a few mods I made my GT500 a mid 11 second car. Now running in the 10's. w' decent gas milage.. WHY can't GM use the new LSA to snap up hungry Camaro fans craving the latest GM"s best has to offer..
Sad but true!!

GT500 hasn't been ruling the dragstrip around these parts. Most are in the 13s, some in the 12s.

Congrats on getting your modded GT500 to 10s. You now run what C6 Z06s run bone stock. Hopefully you don't run into a Z06 with mods and a competent driver. ZR1 is a whole different beast and the GT500 isn't even worth mentioning in the same breath. Just messin with ya.

The LSA would be a nice motor to get from GM in the Camaro. I personally don't mind that it has been put on hold. The LS3 has great mod potential and with a cam and bolt-ons you are lookin at 500 rwhp in a naturally aspirated V8. I plan on putting forged parts in there and Procharging it. Even if GM offered the LSA, it still has hypereutectic pistons and if you want to run more boost you'd still need to swap internals. LS3+Procharger+forged internals > LSA.

[GTAHVIT]

Guys, the GT500 isn't the topic of this thread.. So let it go. puhleeeease...

Originally Posted by racedad70

Well,if no hipo Camaro I guess I will go in another direction.I know there will be aftermarket goodies,but you run into warranty issues. Sorry GM.

How about giving GMPP a chance to see if they will have the 1900 or the 2300 available. Then you can have the dealer install it under warranty.

It's not over yet.

[Shadowsong]

Edit: Off topic, my bad.

[linkwpc]

What about aftermarket companies? Like SMS from saleen? yeah yeah I know some of you hate saleen... but what if he build you a GT500 killer, would you think about it then?

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

I'm probably gonna go on a GT500 ... that's sad, but I give one year to GM to make a real supercharged Z28. If they don't, I'll go on a GT500, OR an old mach1 or camaro

But I still can't imagine GM being ok with having their butts kicked by Ford and their GT500

Maw Punk...

Don't do that. I won't be able to allow you in my house anymore....

no, seriuosly.... don't do it....

[radz28]

Originally Posted by racedad70

Well,if no hipo Camaro I guess I will go in another direction.I know there will be aftermarket goodies,but you run into warranty issues. Sorry GM.

Well, what if you could get warranty taken care of by going with GMPP parts. I mean I know TRD parts (superchargers specifically) didn't void warranties on my buddies truck and he had it installed at the dealer and even got a little extension on his original warranty. There's still the SS too. We don't know what she'll do yet, but my expectations are high. DON'T GO YET!!!

Originally Posted by linkwpc

What about aftermarket companies? Like SMS from saleen? yeah yeah I know some of you hate saleen... but what if he build you a GT500 killer, would you think about it then?

Good question (exactly what I was hoping for.) For me, I'm not sure I would because if he could, I know someone else could build one, and I'd rather not go to him. JMVHO.

[Dan]

I am confused at how you think they could lighten the car. Most of the weight now comes from safety standard requirements. They aren't optional. Before you point at the drag Challenger, remember that that is not a street legal car at all so they could ignore the safety stuff. If you are talking about using lighter composite materials that would make the Camaro so expensive it wouldn't sell anyways.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Dan

I am confused at how you think they could lighten the car. Most of the weight now comes from safety standard requirements. They aren't optional. Before you point at the drag Challenger, remember that that is not a street legal car at all so they could ignore the safety stuff. If you are talking about using lighter composite materials that would make the Camaro so expensive it wouldn't sell anyways.

carbon fiber, race seats, titanium, chrome moly, etc lighter materials. . .which cost a ton of money.

[radz28]

See, that's how I justified an LSA-Z28 in the first place. That carbon fiber and aluminim suspension cradles and forged control arms are not going to be cheap, and especially for a limited production car. I personally don't think the benefit of those parts is going to amount to a gain as much as just adding power and keeping additional weight smart. It already has an aluminum hood so I don't think there's going to be too much savings there, although it all adds up. I agree with you though, Dan. However, removing weight, as expensive as it would likely be, could actually improve mileage, LOL!

[joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010]

How is Dodge getting away with their horrible gas sucking Challenger? Surley GM can make a Z28 that can get the same or better gas milage! Don't you guys think?

[HOTCIVIC]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

like I said before not everyone wants an SS. to some people the SS moniker is a watered down trim level.

That's one thing I don't get. Why do people think the SS moniker is "watered down" when the Z badge has been watered down just as much - if not more. The Z06 and ZR1 are great performers, but what about the Z34 Lumina, Z26 Beretta, Z71 trucks, even the IROC-Z of the late 80s and Z28s of the 70s/80s were poor performers. Not sure why everyone always jumps on the "SS is watered down" bandwagon all the time when the Z has been watered down just as much.

[radz28]

I don't think Dodge has really worked as hard as GM to be as "enviornmentally friendly". I mean, GM has this whole green thing, and has for a while, and I just don't think Dodge is being as, *clears throat* responsible, as GM has been for a long time. I believe with a supercharger, GM can get better mileage because it won't need to have as aggressive a cam' and heads, and such, in order to achieve high horse' numbers. That big aluminum lung doesn't hardly drag on the engine unless you're on the gas and close the by-pass valve so you get the power when you want it, and remain efficient otherwise. JMHO.