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bilydean · 02-19-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FRKNlo

If Im seeing the graph correctly looks like the AFR is at 10.45 and 10.03?

What should it be?

Dean

eynigush · 02-19-2010, 12:29 AM

Without the blower it should be tuned between 12.5 to 13. I dont know if with the maggie your supposed to tune it a little richer but if it was in the 10 to 11 range, that is way too rich.

--Eddie

*radz28* · 02-19-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

What does the maggie make at that boost?

Maggies make about the same power at that boost. If you go with the CARB-legal kit, which requires the OEM air box, you should be right around 500 RWHP totally stock at like 6-7 psi (if I remember correctly) on an LS3-car. It seems as soon as a quality CAI is plumbed in, you're in the neighborhood of something like another 20 RWHP on top of that 500.

FWIW - both SCs use the same TVS rotors. What's going to be interesting is how everything pans out once the tune is locked in. I'm very interested in learning the benefits of those longer runners on this SC. Things are looking great right now though.

Grat job Edelbrock

Team STILLEN · 02-19-2010, 12:48 PM

Supercharger manufacturers always tune on the rich side since these systems are being installed on multiple vehicles wiht various mods. That being said, low 11's on the Air/fuel is about the morm for conservitive tuning. The E-Force LS3 kit makes 7.5psi and since Edelbrock is at sea level with fairly mild ambient temp and hum, correction factors don't really play much of a part. Usually less than 2-3%.

So basically the LS3 system on a rich conservitive safe tune makes over 600fwhp. Not bad considering!!! Check out:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66259

For pre-order information!

Team STILLEN · 02-19-2010, 12:50 PM

Also, unless you're running race gas and low comp pistons, anything over high 11's on the air fuel would spell some SERIOUS damage to the pistons with detonation!!

Mike TexaSS · 02-19-2010, 02:10 PM

I say crappy tune beacuse the air/fuel goes lean above 6000 rpms. When the MAF is dialed in properly you can command a 11.5 air fuel from 2000-7000 rpms.

HaveBlue · 02-19-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dan@stillen

Supercharger manufacturers always tune on the rich side since these systems are being installed on multiple vehicles wiht various mods. That being said, low 11's on the Air/fuel is about the morm for conservitive tuning. The E-Force LS3 kit makes 7.5psi and since Edelbrock is at sea level with fairly mild ambient temp and hum, correction factors don't really play much of a part. Usually less than 2-3%.
So basically the LS3 system on a rich conservitive safe tune makes over 600fwhp. Not bad considering!!! Check out:

Car is in Pennsylvania not CA.

jsharp · 02-19-2010, 06:28 PM

I think it is awesome there is one on the dyno for a change to work with. I would say good tune and 7.5 pulley will end up being a great setup for 6k plus add cai headers and exhaust and you could be sitting at 550rwhp at 7.5 psi and 500-515whp auto with 7.5 psi or more for all we know but off to a good start!

UsedTaHaveA68 · 02-19-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Genevieve

Guy says its the "Dyno Breaks not the Clutch" in the video.

He says dyno brakes, not dyno breaks. The brakes used to slow the rotating drum were smoking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue

Car is in Pennsylvania not CA.

The blog says it was in New Jersey

mtcwby · 02-19-2010, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilydean

What should it be?

Dean

11.7-11.8:1 AFR

bilydean · 02-19-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mtcwby

11.7-11.8:1 AFR

thanks. Kinda new to the whole "tune" thing. Most the stuff I am accustomed to working on is old 60's and 70's muscle cars.

Dean

HaveBlue · 02-20-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by UsedTaHaveA68

The blog says it was in New Jersey

Yep, My bad. I was thinking the show was in PA, but it's at The Meadowlands.
The car belongs to Pat Musi, so I'm sure that it own't be stock for long. His new race car just ran 5.99@236 in 1/4!

http://www.patmusiperformance.com/in...p?categoryid=1

milesodanglers · 02-21-2010, 04:46 PM

I just went for a ride in this camaro and let me tell you that its pretty fast. The car idles like its stock but when you wanna haul.. you haul. This car was not professionally tuned it was done using the flash tuner. As far as i know you go too big with the pulley and you put too much boost and it will spit the rods out. There was nothing wrong with the clutch as far as i can see.

wilmaya · 02-21-2010, 05:29 PM

I asked Steve Wipple at the show and it was dyno'ed at 5 lbs of boost.

02-19-2010, 12:29 AM	#16
eynigush SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SSRS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 412 View My Garage	Without the blower it should be tuned between 12.5 to 13. I dont know if with the maggie your supposed to tune it a little richer but if it was in the 10 to 11 range, that is way too rich. --Eddie __________________ Kooks 1 7/8 headers w/high flow cats Magnaflow Cat-back Competition Series Cold Air Intake by CAI Inc.

02-19-2010, 06:28 PM	#22
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,336	I think it is awesome there is one on the dyno for a change to work with. I would say good tune and 7.5 pulley will end up being a great setup for 6k plus add cai headers and exhaust and you could be sitting at 550rwhp at 7.5 psi and 500-515whp auto with 7.5 psi or more for all we know but off to a good start! __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Mickey Thompson @25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

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02-19-2010, 12:48 PM	#18
Team STILLEN Drives: Varies Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,182	Supercharger manufacturers always tune on the rich side since these systems are being installed on multiple vehicles wiht various mods. That being said, low 11's on the Air/fuel is about the morm for conservitive tuning. The E-Force LS3 kit makes 7.5psi and since Edelbrock is at sea level with fairly mild ambient temp and hum, correction factors don't really play much of a part. Usually less than 2-3%. So basically the LS3 system on a rich conservitive safe tune makes over 600fwhp. Not bad considering!!! Check out: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66259 For pre-order information!

02-19-2010, 12:50 PM	#19
Team STILLEN Drives: Varies Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,182	Also, unless you're running race gas and low comp pistons, anything over high 11's on the air fuel would spell some SERIOUS damage to the pistons with detonation!!

02-19-2010, 02:10 PM	#20
Mike TexaSS Drives: 454 LS7 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 380	I say crappy tune beacuse the air/fuel goes lean above 6000 rpms. When the MAF is dialed in properly you can command a 11.5 air fuel from 2000-7000 rpms.

02-21-2010, 04:46 PM	#27
milesodanglers Drives: fast Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: close Posts: 2	I just went for a ride in this camaro and let me tell you that its pretty fast. The car idles like its stock but when you wanna haul.. you haul. This car was not professionally tuned it was done using the flash tuner. As far as i know you go too big with the pulley and you put too much boost and it will spit the rods out. There was nothing wrong with the clutch as far as i can see.

02-21-2010, 05:29 PM	#28
wilmaya Drives: 1970 Chevelle SS396/496 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Morristown, NJ Posts: 422	I asked Steve Wipple at the show and it was dyno'ed at 5 lbs of boost.