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xpanda305x · 05-26-2010, 09:54 AM

okay so my dealer is INSANE.

they said i fried the PCM and the battery and cable and that its my fault and i have to pay for it. im not going to. im going to get this case open and getting my car fixed..

xpanda305x · 05-26-2010, 11:45 AM

this has been the worst experiance ive EVER experiance with any car delaer ever. i have called them plenty of times and have gotten a call back. so i dont know hwat to do know. this is insane. WORST WORST Service ever...wow im embarrsed

usa1camaro1969 · 05-27-2010, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpanda305x

The dealer has told me that it can be the BCM or something. but i dont know what can be causing this. they told me that GM/Chevy doesnt cover the bcm or something like that. i dont know what the problem can be and my dealer doesnt know what it can be.

If they don't cover the part who does? I thought this thing had a warranty? That's BullShat....Ask them to point out where it is addressed in the warranty that your specific part isn't going to be covered.

xpanda305x · 05-29-2010, 04:30 PM

well update my car is getting fixed but they need a part that doesnt come in untill thursday and :( we will see...

SS Mike · 06-01-2010, 12:20 PM

I know I've got an SS, however some of your symptoms seem similar to mine. Read THIS thread and see if any of my problems match yours. Mine ended up being the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module). It malfunctioned and caused all sorts of problems with my car.

All I can say is that it seems like the worst thing ever to have to go through, but once it's done and fixed you will feel so much better, and you'll look back and realize it wasn't too bad.

The BCM (Body Control Module) is covered as they originally thought that was my issue as well. Took the dealer a couple weeks to really narrow the problem down to one thing.

Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

-Mike

xpanda305x · 06-01-2010, 06:11 PM

okay mike im going to read your thread.

clg_98ta · 06-02-2010, 09:34 AM

Just keep in mind that if there is an intermittent problem (i.e. short) in one of the electrical mods you added, then after they replace the fried parts and send you on your way - the problem may return...

xpanda305x · 06-02-2010, 03:54 PM

no i think i know what was wrong. so im going to let the dealer fix the car and then take it to a shop to get some shit checked out! 2morrow i should be getting a update on my car.

HOZAY · 06-02-2010, 10:48 PM

I've been reading about your situation for some time now, this is ridiculous. Especially at Maroone of West Dade - they've been treating me like a king there, when I had some issues. Who have you been speaking to?

xpanda305x · 06-02-2010, 11:49 PM

chris mongue..

im done with west dade...seriously. im done. sick n tired of them. Grand Prize here i come.

xpanda305x · 06-04-2010, 07:49 PM

okay UPDATE! my car is fixed at least for the electronics and such. but i still haven't received the car. why? okay i don't know about you guys. but 850$ with tax and such for a new batter, some cable and a harness and labor seem pretty damn high...

battery..200? for a ultimate best battery in the world type shit.
cable? 50?
harness 100?

thats about 450 and that like pulling number out my rear...so i dont know if thats right

they are charging me for doing a diagnostic test...is that even possible?

SS Mike · 06-07-2010, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpanda305x

okay UPDATE! my car is fixed at least for the electronics and such. but i still haven't received the car. why? okay i don't know about you guys. but 850$ with tax and such for a new batter, some cable and a harness and labor seem pretty damn high...

battery..200? for a ultimate best battery in the world type shit.
cable? 50?
harness 100?

thats about 450 and that like pulling number out my rear...so i dont know if thats right

they are charging me for doing a diagnostic test...is that even possible?

It always seems a little outrageous at a dealer because normally those costs are rolled up in the warranty so you never see them. It is completely normal for a dealer to charge a diagnostic fee. You don't get free labor for them to figure out the problem, then they just charge you to fix it. Usually a dealer will charge 2 hours to start for diagnosis at a rate of around $100 per hour, so you're looking at $200 right there to start.

When I had my problem fixed the final cost came out to just under $2,000, that was for a new EBCM ($600), a new ECM ($400), labor (re-programming the EBCM and ECM), and the loaner car (which I had to pay for since the issue wasn't covered under warranty).

So $850 might seem high, but labor isn't cheap, especially at a dealership. You pay for quality and at a dealer you get trained and qualified techs that know what they're doing.

Just curious, why was this not covered under warranty?

xpanda305x · 06-07-2010, 04:46 PM

fogslights sound system hids....

Hupperware · 06-07-2010, 05:02 PM

If you run into the issue again, you can use OnStar to do the diagnosis...

06-01-2010, 12:20 PM	#19
SS Mike Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS CGM M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 804	I know I've got an SS, however some of your symptoms seem similar to mine. Read THIS thread and see if any of my problems match yours. Mine ended up being the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module). It malfunctioned and caused all sorts of problems with my car. All I can say is that it seems like the worst thing ever to have to go through, but once it's done and fixed you will feel so much better, and you'll look back and realize it wasn't too bad. The BCM (Body Control Module) is covered as they originally thought that was my issue as well. Took the dealer a couple weeks to really narrow the problem down to one thing. Good luck and let me know if you have any questions. -Mike __________________ Vortech V-3 Kit, ARH LT's, Custom Exhaust, Aeromotive A1000 Fuel System, Custom Tune - 582 rwhp 533 rwtq 22" Modulare H2 Wheels, CF Hood, Trunk, Spoiler & Roof by Carbon by Design, Custom Steering Wheel from P-Factor Brembo GT BBK, Alpine INA-900, Alpine Type-R Speakers, Hurst Shifter, APR Splitter, Custom Quad Tip Diffuser CKS C1 Coilovers, Falken 452 Tires, 265/35/22 & 285/35/22, Custom Grille, AAC Halos, and much more to come!!

06-02-2010, 09:34 AM	#21
clg_98ta Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,698 View My Garage	Just keep in mind that if there is an intermittent problem (i.e. short) in one of the electrical mods you added, then after they replace the fried parts and send you on your way - the problem may return... __________________ Black 2SS ordered 1/4/2010, received 2/19/2010

06-02-2010, 10:48 PM	#23
HOZAY The Eponymous Jose Drives: A V6. Yes. A LLT. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Miami Posts: 398 View My Garage	I've been reading about your situation for some time now, this is ridiculous. Especially at Maroone of West Dade - they've been treating me like a king there, when I had some issues. Who have you been speaking to? __________________

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05-26-2010, 09:54 AM	#15
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	okay so my dealer is INSANE. they said i fried the PCM and the battery and cable and that its my fault and i have to pay for it. im not going to. im going to get this case open and getting my car fixed..

05-26-2010, 11:45 AM	#16
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	this has been the worst experiance ive EVER experiance with any car delaer ever. i have called them plenty of times and have gotten a call back. so i dont know hwat to do know. this is insane. WORST WORST Service ever...wow im embarrsed

05-29-2010, 04:30 PM	#18
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	well update my car is getting fixed but they need a part that doesnt come in untill thursday and :( we will see...

06-01-2010, 06:11 PM	#20
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	okay mike im going to read your thread.

06-02-2010, 03:54 PM	#22
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	no i think i know what was wrong. so im going to let the dealer fix the car and then take it to a shop to get some shit checked out! 2morrow i should be getting a update on my car.

06-02-2010, 11:49 PM	#24
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	chris mongue.. im done with west dade...seriously. im done. sick n tired of them. Grand Prize here i come.

06-04-2010, 07:49 PM	#25
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	okay UPDATE! my car is fixed at least for the electronics and such. but i still haven't received the car. why? okay i don't know about you guys. but 850$ with tax and such for a new batter, some cable and a harness and labor seem pretty damn high... battery..200? for a ultimate best battery in the world type shit. cable? 50? harness 100? thats about 450 and that like pulling number out my rear...so i dont know if thats right they are charging me for doing a diagnostic test...is that even possible?

06-07-2010, 04:46 PM	#27
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	fogslights sound system hids....

06-07-2010, 05:02 PM	#28
Hupperware Drives: 2010 Synergy Green Metallic 1LT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 104	If you run into the issue again, you can use OnStar to do the diagnosis...