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Old 06-13-2010, 03:15 AM   #15
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Sorry, the so called "tap shift" is just another way for the auto to shift. I had it on a C6 Corvette and it was terrible. I had a Pontiac G8 GXP that used the shift lever, and it was terrible.

If you want stick, get a stick. If you want auto get that, but don't think that it will come close to a manual as far as really controlling your shifts and enjoying driving the car.

The biggest mistake I have made in years was ordering the C6 with the paddle shift auto. Would probably still have that car if I had ordered it with the manual.
I have driven an 08 C6 Corvette with paddles and you're right, they're not too great. However, the shift/response time on the Camaro's system is unbelievably better.

It does have great control of shifts. You pick what gear you're in and it won't shift until you shift besides downshifting coming to a stop. Keep in mind that, yes, you can downshift. lol Also, I enjoy driving this car with TAPshift. It shifts in sub .2 sec. with the tranny tunes. Enjoyment? Beating M6 cars gives me that enjoyment you're talking about. lol

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Old 06-13-2010, 03:17 AM   #16
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I have driven an 08 C6 Corvette with paddles and you're right, they're not too great. However, the shift/response time on the Camaro's system is unbelievably better.

It does have great control of shifts. You pick what gear you're in and it won't shift until you shift besides downshifting coming to a stop. Keep in mind that, yes, you can downshift. lol Also, I enjoy driving this car with TAPshift. It shifts in sub .2 sec. with the tranny tunes. Enjoyment? Beating M6 cars gives me that enjoyment you're talking about. lol

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my thoughts exactly, I just didn't want to sound mean lol =D And btw, which tune did you get?
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:50 AM   #17
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Had a couple of ideas myself, waiting on a wiring diagram of the tap shift paddles/harness. If anyone has one they can post I will be happy to share what I come up with.
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:54 PM   #18
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my thoughts exactly, I just didn't want to sound mean lol =D And btw, which tune did you get?
It was a custom tune on a dyno.
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Old 06-13-2010, 01:02 PM   #19
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+1, I'd love to see Hurst or B&M come up with a shifter that we could actually shift with, something similar to Dodge's shifter.
+2 This would be awesome! Will definitely watch for this.
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:19 PM   #20
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+2 This would be awesome! Will definitely watch for this.
I just want some modified paddles to eliminate the stupid click sound.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:38 AM   #21
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so as I sat in the 'mro after washing it thinking about this post I got to looking around, and it seems to me that a pair of paddles mounted where the + & - tabs are behind the steering wheel in a spring loaded, double lever configuration with the end of the final lever depressing the existing button would be cool as hell. cnc'd aluminum a must. hope this makes sense.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:59 AM   #22
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Tap shift novice, but I always have an opinion...

Ok, I do agree something other than buttons would be cooler. But I also think they need to be more easily accessible. For instance, I would much prefer it to be more like a manual shifter, than on the steering wheel. I don't like that my buttons/paddles rotate when turning... I'd rather they be in one place easily accessible.

Either way, it'll never replace a manual when it comes to connecting you to your gears. I find "S" mode does a good job of driving aggressively, and I will tap down a gear or two if I need/want to pass.
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:53 AM   #23
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so as I sat in the 'mro after washing it thinking about this post I got to looking around, and it seems to me that a pair of paddles mounted where the + & - tabs are behind the steering wheel in a spring loaded, double lever configuration with the end of the final lever depressing the existing button would be cool as hell. cnc'd aluminum a must. hope this makes sense.
Yes that made complete sense. I was thinking something similar to your configuration. I think that would be the simplest way... and may be truest to the original setup =D I wouldnt mind plastic paddles painted and treating like Aluminum though. I was playing around in a Mitsubishi Evo, and they have a Automatic gearbox now with tapshift. And the paddles were awesome... but were plastic.. which felt good enough to me.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:34 AM   #24
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Why not move the switches on your A6? If all they are is a couple of electrical switches with wires going to the harness, it should not be that big of a deal to move them from behind the wheel to a bracket somewhere. A previous poster complained about them being very hard to find when cornering, this is only true if you are in a hairpin and really need to move your hands from the 9 - 3 o'clock position. If you are into road racing, get a manual. I am not, I prefer drag racing and that is why I have the A6. I use "M" for my 1/4 miles, not the Tapshift, I tried it and didn't like it.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:40 AM   #25
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Not trying to . I have an A6 and I never used the Paddle Shifters yet, I am to scared that I will "eff" up the shifting because I am not used to it. If I could change one thing about the shifting, I would actually want the buttons removed entirely and put the up/down shifting ability right where I believe it belongs, on the actual shifter. Like, put the car into "M" mode as we do now for "Sport" mode, yet still allowing the car to do all the shifting itself. But if we want shifting control, slide the shift to the right turning into "Manual" mode, where we would then get to push the sifter up and down to control shifting. It would give it a more "manual" feel, IMHO... I've seen it on other cars....wonder why it wasn't done that way...?
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:14 PM   #26
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Not trying to . I have an A6 and I never used the Paddle Shifters yet, I am to scared that I will "eff" up the shifting because I am not used to it. If I could change one thing about the shifting, I would actually want the buttons removed entirely and put the up/down shifting ability right where I believe it belongs, on the actual shifter. Like, put the car into "M" mode as we do now for "Sport" mode, yet still allowing the car to do all the shifting itself. But if we want shifting control, slide the shift to the right turning into "Manual" mode, where we would then get to push the sifter up and down to control shifting. It would give it a more "manual" feel, IMHO... I've seen it on other cars....wonder why it wasn't done that way...?
Well... I understand how you feel. First off.. don't be scared to use the Tapshift... it's a no brainer. It won't even let you shift too early. Just don't shift too late. You won't "eff" up anything Also... I believe they used tapshift because they want to add more of a luxury quality to it. Most BMWs have tapshift now... and also, some Supercars are only available in TAPSHIFT! =o To me, it's a good thing they made a tapshift mode for the automatics. Just a bit more bang for your buck.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:17 PM   #27
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Why not move the switches on your A6? If all they are is a couple of electrical switches with wires going to the harness, it should not be that big of a deal to move them from behind the wheel to a bracket somewhere.
Easier said than done... I was hoping it would be that simple too... but since the buttons are on the steering wheel... means there may be some complications with the Airbag.. Not sure if it's that easy to take apart. And since I'm a car noobie, I would not risk taking it apart until there is some kind of DIY guide, or a clear diagram of the Steering wheel construction. I personally don't even mind the position of the buttons, I just want a Paddle, instead of a clicky button =D
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:26 PM   #28
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Not trying to . I have an A6 and I never used the Paddle Shifters yet, I am to scared that I will "eff" up the shifting because I am not used to it. If I could change one thing about the shifting, I would actually want the buttons removed entirely and put the up/down shifting ability right where I believe it belongs, on the actual shifter. Like, put the car into "M" mode as we do now for "Sport" mode, yet still allowing the car to do all the shifting itself. But if we want shifting control, slide the shift to the right turning into "Manual" mode, where we would then get to push the sifter up and down to control shifting. It would give it a more "manual" feel, IMHO... I've seen it on other cars....wonder why it wasn't done that way...?
I felt like you do the first time I tried the tap shift. Just do it! The car won't let you mess it up. You can even shift to M from D while moving. I'd suggest, if you're worried, try putting the car in M instead of D when you first take it out of park. Then drive it that way in "sport" mode without touching the paddles. It shifts more aggressively all on it's own that in D. Then, after you're comfortable with sport mode, touch one of the paddles. It only shifts one gear at a time. It is WAY fun and you'll get the hang of it quickly. Downshifting is particularly fun. Enjoy your car.
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