10% Ethanol Fuel ? - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

x626xBlack · 07-23-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

Tell that to the FI guys. They make MONSTER power with E85.

E85 requires the computer to adjust. My Flex/Fuel Yukon has run on both and no E85 did not give it monster power, it gave it shitty mileage.

ZED SLED · 07-23-2010, 08:45 AM

Corn squeezins' suck

But now it's all I can find in my area.

LiveStrong · 07-23-2010, 09:31 AM

I do have a question regarding using 100% gas. Do you have to worry about the engine getting dirty? I use only "Top Tier" gasoline in mine and Shell has Nitrogen enriched and Chevron has Techron to keep the engine from getting "gunked" up. If I use 100% gas do I need to add additives to the tank when I fill or after so many miles?

bigearl · 07-23-2010, 09:36 AM

From everything I have read and researched, any noticeable difference between 10% and 0% is in your head. However going from an off brand or grocery store gas to a top shelf product may make a difference. IMHO, don't worry about the 10% and just make sure you buy from a quality gas station.

mhood · 07-23-2010, 09:44 AM

Unless it's for your lawn mower, weed eater, or outboard boat motor...then you have plenty to worry about. I hear there are some new additives that will help neutralize the ethanol for we fishermen.

TooCool5 · 07-23-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveStrong

I do have a question regarding using 100% gas. Do you have to worry about the engine getting dirty? I use only "Top Tier" gasoline in mine and Shell has Nitrogen enriched and Chevron has Techron to keep the engine from getting "gunked" up. If I use 100% gas do I need to add additives to the tank when I fill or after so many miles?

No top tier gas has more detergent additive than the rest.
Check it out at www.toptiergas.com

v6sonoma · 07-23-2010, 10:09 AM

It will work fine in your car. My motorcycle on the other hand can sit for any length of time without an additive or I get to spend $300 to fix it's carburetors. Pisses me off.

hot_rod · 07-23-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by v6sonoma

It will work fine in your car. My motorcycle on the other hand can sit for any length of time without an additive or I get to spend $300 to fix it's carburetors. Pisses me off.

>>Pisses me off.

I'm with ya! Anything carbed is going to have problems with E10 fuel.

Not to mention ya get to pay more for it in several different ways. It cost more, less mpg, tax subsidy of about ~.51 cents a gallon, and a "false demand" has been created for corn leading to higher commodity prices.

The list could go on, but enough of a rant on this subject, I'm pissed off more just writting about it......

x626xBlack · 07-23-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by hot_rod

and a "false demand" has been created for corn leading to higher commodity prices.

Yep! And what pisses me off the most the Mexican Agave' farmers switched to corn causing a Tequila shortage... BASTARDS!

Diabel1969 · 07-23-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ramar

We had trouble with our Bass Boat motor using the gas here in Missouri. Also any small engines, lawn mowers etc. I think ethanol eats the rubber, at least the gaskets on the boat motor had to be replaced. Anyway mechanic told us to put in the 91 octain this one gas station sells in town that has no ethanol. I started to put that gas in my V6 camaro and my gas mileage has improved and the car seems to run better. We now put the higher octane in everything we have except the Flex Fuel Avalanche. No issues for over a year where we had problems before.

wreaks havoc on anything carburated, especially small engines/Harley's.. had to do alot of work to my bike's carb and ignition to even run this crap gas.. Anything with injection especially today's cars should run it with no problem. Basically it's what us up north have referred to as our "winter mix" for years... won't freeze, but your performance and mileage sure do suffer... also, don't store your car with alot of this gas in the tank.. for some reason if it sits alot as in months it causes alot of damage/moisture/corrosion issues...

Diabel1969 · 07-23-2010, 12:10 PM

oh yeah, I nearly forgot...... they're going to put us in NY up to 15% now.. can't wait to see what that does to our vehicles......

Tessa · 07-23-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Yep! And what pisses me off the most the Mexican Agave' farmers switched to corn causing a Tequila shortage... BASTARDS!

hot_rod · 07-23-2010, 12:19 PM

>>> also, don't store your car with alot of this gas in the tank.. for some reason if it sits alot as in months it causes alot of damage/moisture/corrosion issues...

Yep, it's hygroscopic, you guys storing your 10 Camaros for the winter take heed. The red Sta-bil doesn't work. On some of the other forums they are saying the marine version of Sta-bil is the way to go with E10.

2010 Bumblebee · 07-23-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalefj

If you can find pure gas buy it!!! Yes e10 will not actually hurt the car but the motor will run better off of real gas and will get better MPG and more power. Keep the alcohol at home not in your car.

I think you do get worse gas milage with ethanol/gas blend but get more power. Ethanol is alcohol. If you could run pure ethanol you would get even more power. I saw a TV show on this a while ago about ethanol gas. In Brazil you can by gas, a gas ethanol blend of 40%, or pure ethanol at the gas station.

07-23-2010, 08:45 AM	#16
ZED SLED Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South of Raleigh, NC Posts: 9,622 View My Garage	Corn squeezins' suck But now it's all I can find in my area. __________________

07-23-2010, 09:36 AM	#18
bigearl Drives: 10 Camaro 2lt Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Napa Posts: 553	From everything I have read and researched, any noticeable difference between 10% and 0% is in your head. However going from an off brand or grocery store gas to a top shelf product may make a difference. IMHO, don't worry about the 10% and just make sure you buy from a quality gas station. __________________ ----------- Sharks have a week dedicated to me.

07-23-2010, 10:09 AM	#21
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	It will work fine in your car. My motorcycle on the other hand can sit for any length of time without an additive or I get to spend $300 to fix it's carburetors. Pisses me off. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

07-23-2010, 12:19 PM	#27
hot_rod Drives: 2010 2SS RS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,222 View My Garage	>>> also, don't store your car with alot of this gas in the tank.. for some reason if it sits alot as in months it causes alot of damage/moisture/corrosion issues... Yep, it's hygroscopic, you guys storing your 10 Camaros for the winter take heed. The red Sta-bil doesn't work. On some of the other forums they are saying the marine version of Sta-bil is the way to go with E10. __________________ "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain "Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" - Unknown

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07-23-2010, 09:31 AM	#17
LiveStrong Drives: 2012 Transformers Edition - 2SS/M6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 47	I do have a question regarding using 100% gas. Do you have to worry about the engine getting dirty? I use only "Top Tier" gasoline in mine and Shell has Nitrogen enriched and Chevron has Techron to keep the engine from getting "gunked" up. If I use 100% gas do I need to add additives to the tank when I fill or after so many miles?

07-23-2010, 09:44 AM	#19
mhood Orange Camaros Rule! Drives: 2010 1SS LS3 RS IOM Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,559	Unless it's for your lawn mower, weed eater, or outboard boat motor...then you have plenty to worry about. I hear there are some new additives that will help neutralize the ethanol for we fishermen.

07-23-2010, 12:10 PM	#25
Diabel1969 Drives: 2010 2SS, A6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 268	oh yeah, I nearly forgot...... they're going to put us in NY up to 15% now.. can't wait to see what that does to our vehicles......