Camaro SS driving experience like a BMW?

[Eighty-Six Z]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

And they take to mods pretty well too...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...b-9b5a00ce7efe

That g8 looked pretty good out on there on the track. Pretty amazing what it could with just a few mods and boost. Did you notice the plates on the purple charger? PLMCRZY

Also on the looks of the 04-06 GTO..... To me it just didn't have the vibe that is was a GTO. Everytime I would see one, it would take a second or two to register that it was a GTO.

[roadtripper]

More from Austraila. The 2008 Holden Coupe 60 Concept. Hmmm..... A 2011 G8 coupe.

[blackZbandit]

Originally Posted by roadtripper

More from Austraila. The 2008 Holden Coupe 60 Concept. Hmmm..... A 2011 G8 coupe.

OMG that is absolute sex!

[JEFF2010SSMANUAL]

Compare the Camaro to a BMW on a BMW forum and get ready to be laughed at from thousands. I think it will be a good comparison.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by JEFF2010SSMANUAL

Compare the Camaro to a BMW on a BMW forum and get ready to be laughed at from thousands. I think it will be a good comparison.

Laughs of contempt...or nervousness? Muhahahaha!!

[SS4EVER]

Originally Posted by JEFF2010SSMANUAL

Compare the Camaro to a BMW on a BMW forum and get ready to be laughed at from thousands. I think it will be a good comparison.

GM's improving... I'll give them that and hopefully it's not too late for them.

But really? Comparing a Camaro or a GM product to a BMW? Sorry to burst your bubbles' people the BMW's have much greater quality than pretty much anything GM makes, and this is coming from a GM fanboy...

Now I'm not saying that GM can't match the quality of BMW, they can but in order to do so they're going to have to spend more money in using better quality components to really rival BMW, and then you'd be paying BMW prices for a GM car...

The G8 clearly rivals the BMW 5 series in value and performance that it has, but in overall quality? Don't think I'd quite say that...

I believe the Camaro is going to be one of GM's best quality vehicles to come out in a long time from GM, only time will tell.

But I was told by someone that just drove a Camaro SS last week that the FE3 suspension in the Camaro SS was pretty stiff. Which obviously will be better suited for handling, but if GM wanted to match the ride of a BMW then they would have had to soften the suspension a little or offer the Magnetic Ride Control that is offered on such cars as the Corvette, Corvette ZR1, and the various Cadillacs that it's offered on. But that would clearly drive up the cost and price of the Camaro, which we don't want.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by SS4EVER

GM's improving... I'll give them that and hopefully it's not too late for them.

But really? Comparing a Camaro or a GM product to a BMW? Sorry to burst your bubbles' people the BMW's have much greater quality than pretty much anything GM makes, and this is coming from a GM fanboy...

Now I'm not saying that GM can't match the quality of BMW, they can but in order to do so they're going to have to spend more money in using better quality components to really rival BMW, and then you'd be paying BMW prices for a GM car...

The G8 clearly rivals the BMW 5 series in value and performance that it has, but in overall quality? Don't think I'd quite say that...

I believe the Camaro is going to be one of GM's best quality vehicles to come out in a long time from GM, only time will tell.

But I was told by someone that just drove a Camaro SS last week that the FE3 suspension in the Camaro SS was pretty stiff. Which obviously will be better suited for handling, but if GM wanted to match the ride of a BMW then they would have had to soften the suspension a little or offer the Magnetic Ride Control that is offered on such cars as the Corvette, Corvette ZR1, and the various Cadillacs that it's offered on. But that would clearly drive up the cost and price of the Camaro, which we don't want.

I'm not sure that they were refering to just Quality though ... I think it is the driving experience that seems to have gotten away from some BMWs and they are saying that experience has been felt in the car they test drove (a GM car), but unlike most BMWs the experience came at a lower price and is more affordable to the masses. Quality of domestics have come a long way though.

I do think you can compare first hand though how quality or certain quality parts can drive cost up. For example, I drive a BMW 135i ... Sort of in the price range of the Camaro SS/RS with maybe a few options added on... I don't think I could compare the quality of certain parts of the 135i with say the M3 (guessing here as I have not driven in one of these) or any 5 series plus. I do think it can compare with the quality of lower priced 3 series though (as I have had some of these as loaners and I would hope that the quality of the M3 parts is a little higher standard).

Just my 2 cents ..

Crowley

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by JEFF2010SSMANUAL

Compare the Camaro to a BMW on a BMW forum and get ready to be laughed at from thousands. I think it will be a good comparison.

i searched my other forum real quick and found some interesting results!

a lot of BMW elitists who think they're better than everyone, a handful of redneck and mullet jokes. but theres actually a lot of people who recognized the camaro as a capable car and comparing it to their current BMWs or future purchases

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ht=2010+camaro

[andyrew]

I have driven a few BMW's including the BMW that Pontiac went for in making the G8 GT, the 5 series w/ the big engine.
I have to say that the g8 was a very similar rid but it felt much simpler, in a good way. I compare the G8 much with the BMW, it just felt so poised and ready for action, I was very impressed.

BMW owners will nay say you in terms of electronic goodies, luxury, and quality of materials and fit and finish. With good right. But I was very happy with the quality and feel of the G8, and for half the price it certainly preforms.

[MatthewSFrawley]

Originally Posted by SS4EVER

GM's improving... I'll give them that and hopefully it's not too late for them.

But really? Comparing a Camaro or a GM product to a BMW? Sorry to burst your bubbles' people the BMW's have much greater quality than pretty much anything GM makes, and this is coming from a GM fanboy...

Now I'm not saying that GM can't match the quality of BMW, they can but in order to do so they're going to have to spend more money in using better quality components to really rival BMW, and then you'd be paying BMW prices for a GM car...

The G8 clearly rivals the BMW 5 series in value and performance that it has, but in overall quality? Don't think I'd quite say that...

I believe the Camaro is going to be one of GM's best quality vehicles to come out in a long time from GM, only time will tell.

But I was told by someone that just drove a Camaro SS last week that the FE3 suspension in the Camaro SS was pretty stiff. Which obviously will be better suited for handling, but if GM wanted to match the ride of a BMW then they would have had to soften the suspension a little or offer the Magnetic Ride Control that is offered on such cars as the Corvette, Corvette ZR1, and the various Cadillacs that it's offered on. But that would clearly drive up the cost and price of the Camaro, which we don't want.

Please look seriously at the 2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe! And tell me BMW is not WHOOPED!!

-Chevy Salesman (me)

[acamellis]

It is. Just some people like having the German/European namesake. It's the "Well if it's European it must be better. I mean, I paid more for it."
I have a Mercedes SL550 AMG and it was a waste of money. The wife said no to a CTS-V or Z06 :(

[ViperTomcat]

......these necro threads are getting old..