2010 Camaro a goner. Camaro5 member loses his Camaro to crash

[zzz28zzz]

A little background before I dig into this one.....I have 13 years in law enforcement. I am a crash investigator. I am a certified traffic crash reconstructionist and do "side work" for several insurance companies. I have been involved in several studies for vehicle crash safety standards. I have also worked a study involving vehicle speed vs. telephone poles. I have investigated 67 fatal crashes, and approximately 1400 other crash incidents. I have created a program for new teen drivers that is in ADDITION to their Driver's Education classes. Enough about me.............

Issue #1 The OP stated the other driver was 20 years old. He is no longer his parents responsibility. Why are we harping about getting lawyers and going after his parents? This guy was not a teenager and should not be treated as such.

Issue #2 Teenage driving - how safe is it? I can only speak from what I have seen. Out of 67 fatal crashes I have been involved in, only 6 have involved teenage drivers. 3 were the other driver's fault. I don't have the exact #s, but in my experience the 20-30 year old segment are involved in more injury related crashes. Teenagers are involved in more "fender bender" types of crashes. Teenage girls are worse than teenage boys.

Issue #3 The Crash. Even before the telephone pole revelation, I could say for certain that the crash did not happen like we have been led to believe. A rear end crash with #1 going 25 mph being hit by #2 going 40mph does not result in the damage pictured. That result would have been more of just a bumper crush and a little into the rear deck lid. Without seeing both cars, or any physical evidence at the scene it would be hard to determine speed or other factors. What I do know is that the OP, if it really is his car, was not traveling 25 mph when he hit the pole or tree or whatever it was. The question is what happened prior to impact to send him into it backwards?
My guess is road racing and he got clipped and sent off the road.
They are CRASHES, not ACCIDENTS. Accidents imply no fault, there is alway fault.

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by HuJass

It's too bad. For the car.
Judging by what the owner of the wrecked car says and how he says it, it will just be a matter of time before his next one is wrecked.

wow f@#kin wow dude any 1 who wishes somethng like that on any camaro...but 4 real I would love 2 meet yu & exchange camaro stories lol get my drift

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by LosXC451

Repost, and I just noticed something. There was some kid on here saying that that was his Camaro (and supposedly he had taken 176 the night before *cough impossible cough*). Maybe it was the kid that crashed into it he said he had no insurance

Okay 4 every 1 wanting 2 know i'm just seeing this it was a typo I can explain like I give damn but 4 the ppl on here that are nice it was not 176 it was 146 any person on in the world that knows or have read anything about the camaro knows what speed it tops out at so I would never lie 2 car junkies like myself about that bcuz thats like saying pigs fly lol. I like 2 thank every 1 that was concerned & pics of the new 1 will be up real soon. THANKS & ohh yeah look 2 the right of yor keyboard at the dail pad the 7 is right above the 4 & 1 more thing who in the hell buys a car & dont see what it can do?

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by Marvb549

I think that there is much more to this story than anyone on this board will ever know. I have an idea in my head that I just have to share. New Camaro owner gets on the street with his new toy and just has to prove its worth. Dusting a Challenger, driving 176 , and who know what else. My story continues with new Camaro owner running across a car of young teenagers and they also decide to race. New 2010 Camaro SS is way more car and he blows by and pulls in front with ease, but runs out of road or decides to slow it down. Big Brembo brakes slow camaro down in a really big hurry, to 25 MPH, but Ford in back does not have big Brembo brakes coupled with inexperienced driver and does not even stand a chance. The brake for the Ford is the tail end of a shiny new Camaro.

There are just too many things not adding up. I also find it hard, if not impossible to believe that this guy will get a second Camaro to trash and wreck before most even get their first. I also want to check my meter on that one.

Maybe my story is a fairy tale, but my guess is that if the truth be known, this is probably pretty close to what went down. I am almost positive Camaro driver did not realize the stopping power of the brakes in his machine and closed a gap too fast for any other car to respond to.

Please keep that in mind when driving and someone is on your tail. I assure you, you can stop much faster than they can.

lmao would love 2 meet u in person though lol

[KoTToN]

Originally Posted by Dertybr

Okay 4 every 1 wanting 2 know i'm just seeing this it was a typo I can explain like I give damn but 4 the ppl on here that are nice it was not 176 it was 146 any person on in the world that knows or have read anything about the camaro knows what speed it tops out at so I would never lie 2 car junkies like myself about that bcuz thats like saying pigs fly lol. I like 2 thank every 1 that was concerned & pics of the new 1 will be up real soon. THANKS & ohh yeah look 2 the right of yor keyboard at the dail pad the 7 is right above the 4 & 1 more thing who in the hell buys a car & dont see what it can do?

[Marvb549]

Originally Posted by Dertybr

wow f@#kin wow dude any 1 who wishes somethng like that on any camaro...but 4 real I would love 2 meet yu & echange camaro stories lol get my drift

I really don't think he is talking about the car. I think he is more referring to the irresponsible driver of it.

Let's just say the evidence supports his claim.

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by BackinBlack

I cannot believe this story. The 176mph is hard enough to swallow but the 2nd new Camaro in a few days we know is darn near impossible. Story sounds like BS to me.

146 & if I really wanted 2 I sure I can Buy U lol let me stop Im not that kinda person but its just these damn stories aaaagggghhhhhh

[mshaeffer]

Why is it so hard for everyone to believe that a 2010 Camaro can be had in a few days? There are 3 dealerships around me that have 1-2 sitting on the lot. I could go buy one right now if I wanted to or had the money to.

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by Matster

I wouldn't be so sure of that....there are a lot of things that don't add up here. The damage on the Camaro is that of an impact of at least 50 MPH and it looks to me like it is a residential area.

So let me get this straight.... "I was just putting along at 25 MPH when WHAMMM out of nowhere this Ford Escape hits me from behind." Ya RIGHT!

I too would love to see the accident report...cause unless it was the cop's first day on the job or perhaps on the planet I doubt he/she would be buying what this guy is selling.

Anyone know the age of the Camaro owner?

I'm 32 I was coming 2 a stop at a light is that so f@#king unbelieveable

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by Dertybr

I'm 32 I was coming 2 a stop at a light is that so f@#king unbelieveable

And then that crazy unlicensed telephone pole jumped out behind and whacked you!

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by zzz28zzz

A little background before I dig into this one.....I have 13 years in law enforcement. I am a crash investigator. I am a certified traffic crash reconstructionist and do "side work" for several insurance companies. I have been involved in several studies for vehicle crash safety standards. I have also worked a study involving vehicle speed vs. telephone poles. I have investigated 67 fatal crashes, and approximately 1400 other crash incidents. I have created a program for new teen drivers that is in ADDITION to their Driver's Education classes. Enough about me.............

Issue #1 The OP stated the other driver was 20 years old. He is no longer his parents responsibility. Why are we harping about getting lawyers and going after his parents? This guy was not a teenager and should not be treated as such.

Issue #2 Teenage driving - how safe is it? I can only speak from what I have seen. Out of 67 fatal crashes I have been involved in, only 6 have involved teenage drivers. 3 were the other driver's fault. I don't have the exact #s, but in my experience the 20-30 year old segment are involved in more injury related crashes. Teenagers are involved in more "fender bender" types of crashes. Teenage girls are worse than teenage boys.

Issue #3 The Crash. Even before the telephone pole revelation, I could say for certain that the crash did not happen like we have been led to believe. A rear end crash with #1 going 25 mph being hit by #2 going 40mph does not result in the damage pictured. That result would have been more of just a bumper crush and a little into the rear deck lid. Without seeing both cars, or any physical evidence at the scene it would be hard to determine speed or other factors. What I do know is that the OP, if it really is his car, was not traveling 25 mph when he hit the pole or tree or whatever it was. The question is what happened prior to impact to send him into it backwards?
My guess is road racing and he got clipped and sent off the road.
They are CRASHES, not ACCIDENTS. Accidents imply no fault, there is alway fault.

Nice very good work But the driver was 15 Iwas spwned n2 a poll and I'm sure my ins. woulnt be getting me another 1 after the investigation but thnks 4 your input

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

And then that crazy unlicensed telephone pole jumped out behind and whacked you!

lol The magical f@#king Polehttp://http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/derty_br/ford.jpg

[TheGrimReaperToMustangs]

Not to make light of the situation.. but Dertybr.. your posts make some of things you are trying say very hard or in some cases impossible to understand.

[ChevyCamaro]

hmmm Lil Boosie is Dertybr?