Camaro SS vs. 370Z

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Since you have experience with the 350z you should take a test drive of the 370z and tell us what you think. I took a test drive of the 370z and I thought it was comfortable, but i'm a short dude. If you get a chance to test a 370z let me know, cause I would like to hear your feedback. I plan on buying a 370z sometime in the future but I want to wait until the camero comes out and test drive that.

I plan on it, steelership already got a couple in but i had to get back to school before i could get a test drive in. Car looks sharp... everything about it looks better in person.


i keep telling people it looks like a 350 on roids.


Im sure it drives very similar... only 25 more hp, 10 more lb/ft of Torque... + a little weight. Sounds like a wash to me.. the real difference is how its expected to handle. The 350z is one of the best handling cars ive ever had a chance to drive, and ive driven some good ones. (911,M3...etc) and the 370z is supposed to be vastly improved as far as handling and grip go.


Oddly enough, im sitting in a 350z as i type this now. I can tell you from someone who loves cars enough to just go out and drive for the sake of driving, the Z isnt the car id want to drive if i had to be in it for a long time. just not enough room imo.

[tvfreakazoid]

Cool let us know what you think. How was the m3 and the 911?
When I a get a chance to test drive the camaro, this will be my first time driving one. Never drove a camaro or a stang before. I guess i'll find out what it's like driving one later this year.

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

I plan on it, steelership already got a couple in but i had to get back to school before i could get a test drive in. Car looks sharp... everything about it looks better in person.


i keep telling people it looks like a 350 on roids.


Im sure it drives very similar... only 25 more hp, 10 more lb/ft of Torque... + a little weight. Sounds like a wash to me.. the real difference is how its expected to handle. The 350z is one of the best handling cars ive ever had a chance to drive, and ive driven some good ones. (911,M3...etc) and the 370z is supposed to be vastly improved as far as handling and grip go.


Oddly enough, im sitting in a 350z as i type this now. I can tell you from someone who loves cars enough to just go out and drive for the sake of driving, the Z isnt the car id want to drive if i had to be in it for a long time. just not enough room imo.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Cool let us know what you think. How was the m3 and the 911?
When I a get a chance to test drive the camaro, this will be my first time driving one. Never drove a camaro or a stang before. I guess i'll find out what it's like driving one later this year.

The 911/M3 are my two favorite cars in existance, and as much as they were designed for similiar purposes, they are very different.

The Porsche feels small, very contained. Nimble but with enough power to throw you back in the seat, really an amazing car. Deserves every bit of praise that is accredited to it. The one i drove was a 4/S convertable, and i LOVE that car. Never felt a more enjoyable gearbox in my life. The only problems with it, is its not extremely comfortable (moreso than the Z) and if your not driving it hard (traffic) your not going to like it. the clutch is heavy, EXTREMELY touchy. etc.

The M3 i drove a couple weeks ago, and i was expecting what Car and Driver ranked as the 2nd best handling car in America (only to the Audi R8) and...while it did handle well the car is much bigger than you'd expect. It feels like your driving a car MUCH bigger than it actualy is. I didnt think that was a good thing but i guess its just drivers prefferance. The car is EXTREMELY comfortable. I cant say ive ever been in a more comfortable car. The styling is amazing in person, everything about it inside and out. The one i drove was Black/Red and it was breathtaking. The car i had came with the Dual-Clutch, and though im more of a manual kind of guy, this forever makes me a dual clutch fan. Very smooth, rediculously fast shifting. But the best thing about the car, which to me, gives it a leg up on the 911, the engine. redline at 8400rpm, and i can tell you that by the time your there you will be pinned in your seat with G forces. Some cars (the z) shake and complain when you push it towards redline, the M3 WANTS you to rev the shit out of it.

[Mormegil]

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Since you have experience with the 350z you should take a test drive of the 370z and tell us what you think. I took a test drive of the 370z and I thought it was comfortable, but i'm a short dude. If you get a chance to test a 370z let me know, cause I would like to hear your feedback. I plan on buying a 370z sometime in the future but I want to wait until the camero comes out and test drive that.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IT'S CAMARO.

[tvfreakazoid]

OOPS!

Originally Posted by Mormegil

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IT'S CAMARO.

[tvfreakazoid]

I'm going to go off topic for a minute. What do you think about "tubi exhaust systems"? I do have it on another post but I want to know what's your opionion? Do you know if they make it for front engine cars?

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

The 911/M3 are my two favorite cars in existance, and as much as they were designed for similiar purposes, they are very different.

The Porsche feels small, very contained. Nimble but with enough power to throw you back in the seat, really an amazing car. Deserves every bit of praise that is accredited to it. The one i drove was a 4/S convertable, and i LOVE that car. Never felt a more enjoyable gearbox in my life. The only problems with it, is its not extremely comfortable (moreso than the Z) and if your not driving it hard (traffic) your not going to like it. the clutch is heavy, EXTREMELY touchy. etc.

The M3 i drove a couple weeks ago, and i was expecting what Car and Driver ranked as the 2nd best handling car in America (only to the Audi R8) and...while it did handle well the car is much bigger than you'd expect. It feels like your driving a car MUCH bigger than it actualy is. I didnt think that was a good thing but i guess its just drivers prefferance. The car is EXTREMELY comfortable. I cant say ive ever been in a more comfortable car. The styling is amazing in person, everything about it inside and out. The one i drove was Black/Red and it was breathtaking. The car i had came with the Dual-Clutch, and though im more of a manual kind of guy, this forever makes me a dual clutch fan. Very smooth, rediculously fast shifting. But the best thing about the car, which to me, gives it a leg up on the 911, the engine. redline at 8400rpm, and i can tell you that by the time your there you will be pinned in your seat with G forces. Some cars (the z) shake and complain when you push it towards redline, the M3 WANTS you to rev the shit out of it.

[leechungsr]

I don't care which car is faster. It's all about how a car makes you feel...99% of us are never going to road race it anyway. If you really need to be a carlength faster than another car at a stoplight, you have serious issues...

I have been considering a new Camaro or 370z so this post is relevant to me. I drive a Subaru WRX (modded to run 13s and a 4.0 0-60...I don't dragrace so I'll never find out for sure), and recently sold my ML-55 AMG (380lb-ft of torque and can spin all 4-wheels with 285/50/18 tires). If GM was in a better financial position there's a good chance I would pick up the Camaro...it's just hard to buy from a company that's bleeding millions daily with hopes that a plug in hybrid costing more than 2x the price of the new Honda Insight will save them...

I test drove the 370z for a good 15-20minutes today. The rev-match system in the 6MT is amazing. I thought I would hate it because I am so used to rev-matching my shifts, but I can't complain because this system is much faster than my feet will ever be. The interior materials are very good, fit and finish is excellent, but the bottom line: I didn't enjoy driving the car. The motor really opens up later in the rpms and is quite loud, but doesn't really have a distinctive exhaust note; more of an annoying drone. The clutch pedal was so light I couldn't feel it engage at all. Sure it handles well, but I didn't really care. I just couldn't get myself to enjoy the car.

I guess I'll drive the Camaro when it's available...but I won't buy unless GM is able to turn things around...

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by leechungsr

I don't care which car is faster. It's all about how a car makes you feel...99% of us are never going to road race it anyway. If you really need to be a carlength faster than another car at a stoplight, you have serious issues...

I have been considering a new Camaro or 370z so this post is relevant to me. I drive a Subaru WRX (modded to run 13s and a 4.0 0-60...I don't dragrace so I'll never find out for sure), and recently sold my ML-55 AMG (380lb-ft of torque and can spin all 4-wheels with 285/50/18 tires). If GM was in a better financial position there's a good chance I would pick up the Camaro...it's just hard to buy from a company that's bleeding millions daily with hopes that a plug in hybrid costing more than 2x the price of the new Honda Insight will save them...

I test drove the 370z for a good 15-20minutes today. The rev-match system in the 6MT is amazing. I thought I would hate it because I am so used to rev-matching my shifts, but I can't complain because this system is much faster than my feet will ever be. The interior materials are very good, fit and finish is excellent, but the bottom line: I didn't enjoy driving the car. The motor really opens up later in the rpms and is quite loud, but doesn't really have a distinctive exhaust note; more of an annoying drone. The clutch pedal was so light I couldn't feel it engage at all. Sure it handles well, but I didn't really care. I just couldn't get myself to enjoy the car.

I guess I'll drive the Camaro when it's available...but I won't buy unless GM is able to turn things around...

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by leechungsr

If GM was in a better financial position there's a good chance I would pick up the Camaro...it's just hard to buy from a company that's bleeding millions daily with hopes that a plug in hybrid costing more than 2x the price of the new Honda Insight will save them...

GM HAS turned things around. It's the marketplace...if you didn't notice, NISSAN was hurting enough to completely pull out of this years NAIAS...so don't single out GM. They also haven't pinned their financial future on the Volt as you suggest. They acknowledge they won't make a dime on it for the first few years...same as Toyota had to deal with the Prius. The Volt is a step towards a brighter future...it's not a miracle 'cure'. BUT -- they are bringing out other new cars that are more profitable. The Cruze for example -- it was designed to bring in profit, and it's got a great ainterior, exterior, and returns 40mpg hwy. THAT has a good chance to help improve their financial standing, along with their many other new vehicles, like the Malibu (which increased in sales 40% in during '08s horrendus market downturn).

Go test drive a Camaro when it comes out, and don't pay too close attention to all the foolish "bankruptcy" reports coming out left and right. GM will be around for some time to come. Besides, your money would be helping them turn things around

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

I'm going to go off topic for a minute. What do you think about "tubi exhaust systems"? I do have it on another post but I want to know what's your opionion? Do you know if they make it for front engine cars?

yes they make them for front engine cars, and they sound good on the right car.

I like this one....





same car going to redline here...

[Jamestwilliams]

Originally Posted by BrianInJackson

One thought about 1/4 times. Off the line, the Camaro has a big power advantage over the 370z. However will the 275 section width be able to hold all that power. The 370z when equiped with 19" wheels will also come with 275 section width tires. This will give the 370z a better ratio of contact patch per pound of car. The added horsepower and especially the monster torque advantage of the Camaro off the line might not be able to be fully utilized. I still think that the Camaro will edge out the 370 in a strait line, but I think it will be very close. As far as going around a track, the 370 should have the advantage with two less seats, 600ish pound less weight to lug around. I will speak from experiance when I say that there is something I call percieved speed. There is something about being in a small car lower to the ground. This is an exageration, but imagine going around a track in a go-kart. Now go around the same track at the same speed in a full sized car and you will get a different experiance. The 370z might feel faster and might be more fun to drive fast, but time will tell who is really faster in different situations. I don't really feel that these cars should compete against each other because one is a 2 seater and one is a 4 seater, but I am sure that comparisons will come out as soon as the Camaro SS is available for testing.

I don't know if someone else already responded to this I haven't read that far yet. But if you take wheel diameter into account the Camaros contact patch will be just slightly larger with the same section width due to the 20 inch diameter tires. Also bigger isn't always neccesarily better there is an appropriate tire size and section width for every setup. I'm just going to take a wild guess that GM was looking for something with a good balance between handling and acceleration, in other words a tire size that will work well at both the drag strip and the road coarse a compromise.

[tvfreakazoid]

HOlly shit that sounded nice. Now, this M3 is the V6 version not the new V* right?
If I do end up getting the 370z, I wonder if they will make one for it. Cause if it sounds anything like that I would definitely get it as long it's not crazy expensive. I wonder how it will sound on the new SS? I bet pretty good.

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

yes they make them for front engine cars, and they sound good on the right car.

I like this one....





same car going to redline here...

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

HOlly shit that sounded nice. Now, this M3 is the V6 version not the new V* right?
If I do end up getting the 370z, I wonder if they will make one for it. Cause if it sounds anything like that I would definitely get it as long it's not crazy expensive. I wonder how it will sound on the new SS? I bet pretty good.

No the M3 has a V8, first and last V8 ever for the M3.

Im not sure if they will or not, ive only seen Diablo exhaust on high end Euro cars... who knows. If not i'd go Borla or Magnaflow

[tvfreakazoid]

I heard the borla, and I really didnt like the sound. It was kind of weak.

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

No the M3 has a V8, first and last V8 ever for the M3.

Im not sure if they will or not, ive only seen Diablo exhaust on high end Euro cars... who knows. If not i'd go Borla or Magnaflow