CamaroScotty's JULY 22 Dealer Presentation Details Thread

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I though it was a sloppy way of typing "Head's up Display", which in turn is short for "Head is up Display"

I don't know, can the local Grammar Nazi chime in?

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

My car has it right now. I don't feel detached from the road at all.
But I'm excited about it, because that means no engine-driven power steering, which means (imo) more efficient powertrain.

Electric power steering is more efficient, may be more dependable, and works with the engine off (which may only be meaningful to you if you spin out and stall the engine but the car is still rolling).

Originally Posted by PA FAST

It must depend on how it's tuned, some people have the Chevy Malibu with electric steering and find it awkward compared to traditional hydraulic steering.

My VW has electric power steering and it feels great. It's the best modern steering I've ever felt; it gives me all the road feel I can use while still giving me enough boost that I don't have to put a lot of effort into turning the wheel. It's also adjustable. The only power steering I like better is old steering that, while failing to deliver any road feel, makes me able to steer entirely with my pinky finger (1987 Cadillac Deville, 1980 Buick Lesabre).

If you have electric power steering and don't like it, just adjust it. In the VW you can use a proprietary cable that connects to the OBDII port and allows you to change it (as well as a million other things). If it can't be adjusted on the Camaro either with a special cable or a setting on the DIC, it should be pretty easy to do right at the power steering unit.

Originally Posted by PA FAST

I don't know, can the local Grammar Nazi chime in?

I have never ever seen it as "Head's Up Display". Everywhere I've seen it, it's always been "Heads Up Display", implying that everyone's head could be up.

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by theholycow

My VW has electric power steering and it feels great. It's the best modern steering I've ever felt; it gives me all the road feel I can use while still giving me enough boost that I don't have to put a lot of effort into turning the wheel. It's also adjustable. The only power steering I like better is old steering that, while failing to deliver any road feel, makes me able to steer entirely with my pinky finger (1987 Cadillac Deville, 1980 Buick Lesabre).

If you have electric power steering and don't like it, just adjust it. In the VW you can use a proprietary cable that connects to the OBDII port and allows you to change it (as well as a million other things). If it can't be adjusted on the Camaro either with a special cable or a setting on the DIC, it should be pretty easy to do right at the power steering unit.

Well this is the first time I heard anything positive about electric steering, if they can do electric steering right in some cars I have no doubt it will be done right in the Camaro.

Originally Posted by theholycow

I have never ever seen it as "Head's Up Display". Everywhere I've seen it, it's always been "Heads Up Display", implying that everyone's head could be up.

Thank you for clearing that up Mr. Grammar Nazi.

[Chevyrocker]

Originally Posted by PA FAST

I don't know, can the local Grammar Nazi chime in?

Grammar Nazi Here...it's actually not Head's up...it's technically the Head Up Display (singular)

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by jsenn

Grammar Nazi Here...it's actually not Head's up...it's technically the Head Up Display (singular)

Another Grammar Nazi beat you to the punch, but thanks I got it now.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by PA FAST

Well this is the first time I heard anything positive about electric steering, if they can do electric steering right in some cars I have no doubt it will be done right in the Camaro.

Now if I could only have my fears about drive-by-wire throttle assauged...

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Now if I could only have my fears about drive-by-wire throttle assauged...

I think it will work out.

[jmliptak]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Now if I could only have my fears about drive-by-wire throttle assauged...

Think about the Vette....and a lot of the software from the Vette are being used on the Camaro, remember where some of the parts come from....I don't hear too many people complaining about it!

[bigdog98]

Hey Scotty keep the info coming... thanks again.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by jsenn

Grammar Nazi Here...it's actually not Head's up...it's technically the Head Up Display (singular)

Unless you have two or more heads on your shoulder...

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by GothamCamaro

I totally missed the part about the HUD coming out in Dec 2009! Crap, well at least it's coming out. Hmm, I want the HUD so I would need to know how much more it would cost to install it later, if not, I may delay... I don't know...

Can a HUD be installed later by the factory?? Or will that require a whole new dash?? I certainly will not be able to wait another 6 months while I see others driving them down the road...

[LadiesMan217]

What if you lose power in your car...and you're on the highway. Do you lose the steering also?

I had a POS Cougar and the alternator went while I was driving on the highway, of course the battery died and the car stalled. I was able to steer it off the highway, down the offramp and into the parking lot at the end of the ramp.

With electric steering...would I have been able to do that or does all steering capabilities go out the window?

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by LadiesMan217

What if you lose power in your car...and you're on the highway. Do you lose the steering also?

I had a POS Cougar and the alternator went while I was driving on the highway, of course the battery died and the car stalled. I was able to steer it off the highway, down the offramp and into the parking lot at the end of the ramp.

With electric steering...would I have been able to do that or does all steering capabilities go out the window?

If your engine stalled wouldn't you lose hydraulic steering also?

[Txturbo]

Originally Posted by PA FAST

If your engine stalled wouldn't you lose hydraulic steering also?

yes....the power steering pump is driven by the motor. If the motor stalls, you loose power assist but you can still steer but with increased effort. One of the benefits of electric power steering is, you still have power assist if the motor stalls. Another is less hp robbed from the motor to spin the hydraulic pump. What I don't know is if the system on the new camaro will be an electric motor spinning the hydraulic pump, or if its servos actually assisting the steering directly.