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Old 07-13-2008, 05:11 PM   #351
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Guys I got a solution for a front plate that I saw the other day on a Dodge Magnum HEMI: sticker. Yes that's right, it had a sticker front plate. And it worked. So I'm pretty sure it could work on the Camaro.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:20 PM   #352
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Guys I got a solution for a front plate that I saw the other day on a Dodge Magnum HEMI: sticker. Yes that's right, it had a sticker front plate. And it worked. So I'm pretty sure it could work on the Camaro.
Not a bad idea...

I was thinking about the plate and I thought that the plate on the Camaro is not necessarily bolted on the bumper...

What if there was some sort of bracket that extended out and through the lower grill that was made to go flush with the middle part of the grill. This way no one would ever have to mangle/drill any hole in the bumper. I think this would be an easy way to get around destroying the bumper in anyway.
The bolts will be behind the bumper so there is no exterior changes.

Hopefully thats what will end up happening, since I live in Texas I don't want any holes anywhere.
Does anyone understand what I'm saying?
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:26 PM   #353
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Not a bad idea...

I was thinking about the plate and I thought that the plate on the Camaro is not necessarily bolted on the bumper...

What if there was some sort of bracket that extended out and through the lower grill that was made to go flush with the middle part of the grill. This way no one would ever have to mangle/drill any hole in the bumper. I think this would be an easy way to get around destroying the bumper in anyway.
The bolts will be behind the bumper so there is no exterior changes.

Hopefully thats what will end up happening, since I live in Texas I don't want any holes anywhere.
Does anyone understand what I'm saying?
If you could make some of those, I am sure a lot of people would buy them,,,, I still WANT to mount the front plate where it should be: on the wall of my garage!!!
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:42 PM   #354
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If you could make some of those, I am sure a lot of people would buy them,,,, I still WANT to mount the front plate where it should be: on the wall of my garage!!!


Yeah, those front plates would look a lot better in the garage than on the front of the Camaro! I guess we'll see... so far so good though.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:44 PM   #355
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Soooooooooo--- Mr. Flaguy..........


I'm wondering to myself how long you've been on this site and how much you really know about the development of the new Camaro.


Ever hear of the "Camaro 12 Disciples of which there are 15?"

Based on your note above, obviously not.

(I'm now modifying this post -- after reading the last two pages - and thanks, Tag!!!)

Now -- to the rest of you.........
I've been following the new 5th gen long before even the first "Disciples" went over there. I'm also a member on 5thgen.org under the same name though not that much longer than here. I've been following since late 06.

It is obvious to me that my definition of "enthusiast" differs from everyone elses. Obviously, there can only be one true definition of the term and I'll admit that mine is incorrect. So with that I kinda shot myself with my own post. My point was that GM wouldn't focus on any particular type or group of person. Their ultimate goal is to make money, not please the enthusiasts...even though that can be argued to go hand in hand. Take it with a grain of salt.

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lol, flaguy just got b**ch slapped, you are now just another notch in scott's bed post!
That was hardly a bitch slap. This was a bitch slap.....

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Bullshit, my @ss...

Of course they care about enthusiasts. And yes, they care about profit!...I'll absolutely disagree AND agree with you there. Now...

GM does care what enthusiasts think.....because they are the ones that ARE Camaro. We are the people that have a love for everday driving and love our machines. The general public might not care about this or that. BUT, enthusiasts help to shape the Camaro for the general public....to make it more appealing with the options that everyone wants.

What I mean is this....GM took 15 people (enthusiasts) to Detroit to see their thoughts on how the camaro was progressing and asked THEM what they could do to better the concept to production model. An emphasis was also put on everyday driving for everyday drivers....those men, women, younger crowd, etc...who would be buying the car. GM DOES want to market it to everyone. Which is why everyone won't be happy.....but they are doing the best they can.

If GM didn't care about enthusiasts, they wouldn't have people like us addicted to the computer and this site. They wouldn't have umpteen sites dedicated to Camaros.... They wouldn't have Fbodfather posting daily on them. Scott is an enthusiast too. Look how many fbodies he's owned....and who does he work for? Granted, GM isn't going to add a specific hood just for a small group of people. Now, they would add that hood if EVERYONE wanted one...and hated the other one.

GM does have to do what is most profitable for them. YES. But, they do care about us. If they go and screw up so many things, part of their largest free advertisment....US....won't be there. MY opinion....they care a great deal about us.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:48 PM   #356
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Some of the people complaining about the production car being to unlike the concept remind me of geeks who accuse comic book movie directors of "raping their childhood."
I didn't mean to attack everyone with an opinion, but only the very few who have chosen to express it in such an extreme manner (I would rather not point fingers). I applaud everyone else for not being sheep, but being civil as well.

I, too, wish we were all getting the concept, but a one-off, multimillion dollar concept is always hard to translate into a cost-effective, regulation-compliant, production vehicle. I think the team at Chevrolet has been very slavish to the concept, and we've had more input into the production of a car than anyone has probably ever had in automotive history. There's so much more to come that we haven't seen, both as factory options and aftermarket solutions, that I really don't mind that the headlights aren't exactly the same, or how the grill is executed. It all will even out in the end.

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Old 07-13-2008, 06:10 PM   #357
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It's when about 10,000 people say in unison: "the entire car looks like it fell off a train at 90mph" --that I get worried.
The majority are very pleased and thankful to the passion you guys have put into this vehicle...this hostility is rather annoying personally...

Many of these fickle complaints can EASILY be combated with aftermarket touches or even accessories possibly offered through GM. Oh well...I love this vehicle, and I appreciate the commitment you have put in to it and the fact that YOU DO respond and listen to the enthusiasts...
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:10 PM   #358
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man its time consuming reading all these long posts in british.
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:11 PM   #359
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I don't like the orange turn signals in the back...also it needs a flush spoiler like the concept one...Other than that it looks sexy
I totally agree! Looks pretty pansy and European-esque
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:12 PM   #360
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As we've stated in other threads, those are necessary for some nations, like Australia, that require amber blinkers on the rear of the car. The US-spec Camaro will not have amber rears. They will be all red.

I should add that the bottom pictures do not appear to be the same Camaro. Notice that the brakes are not yellow like the top ones.


Sweet! thanks for that info
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:30 PM   #361
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I might have a solution for people looking to remove their front mounted license plates. When I was researching the Malibu I came across this website: http://www.bumperplugs.com/BPindex.html

So if people want to remove their plate s they can put these into the holes and make the bumper look good again. I apologize in advanced if someone already suggested this solution.

That's certainly better looking than keeping the plate on the front. I'd get them if the dealer had drilled holes in my front bumper. I'll still tell them to leave it off when I purchase it though.
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:40 PM   #362
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Thanks for putting some reasoning behind the changes. I seem to like the new front bumper in the picture of the silver camaro SS photo better than the black even though they are the same. In the black photo in this thread, it doesn't look right.
I think it looks better in the silver pic as well. But I believe that is due to the fact that in the silver pic we can't see 1- it's such a busy grille that doesn't match the upper grille and 2- it's pushed all the way out to the edge instead of being recessed some.

If they change those two minor things about it, I think it will look great.
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:23 PM   #363
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Me. I'm more than willing to admit I was wrong about something.....However, who's willing to eat crow when that (^) doesn't happen?
I'm 100% sure that at least one well known print magazine is planning on publishing a negative review of the changes to the front end styling already.
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:27 PM   #364
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If you could make some of those, I am sure a lot of people would buy them,,,, I still WANT to mount the front plate where it should be: on the wall of my garage!!!
Too bad nobody thought of this when they designed the front end and made the default one that comes with the car work like this.

Why do I keep hearing this common theme that everyone must accept that there's foibles with the car and we just have to live with them because we can fix it later at our own cost?

GM's job is to make a car that people will buy. We're all already fans of the camaro and we're already used to modding our own cars and personalizing them. On the other hand, John Q. Public and Jane Q. Public may be quite used to other brands that build cars they don't need to modify to get the way the want them. How are you going to get them to buy a car they don't like certain aspects of even if there are aftermarket options to fix it? That's a tough sell, if you ask me.


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