The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by syr74

Only Motor Trend tested a car equipped with the 3.73:1 axle package and the Brembo brake package, the latter of which brings shorter, stickier tires that by all appearances changes 1/4 mile times. (as it should)

Car and Driver tested the Mustang with the 3.73 gears and the Brembo brake package and still came up short of the SS.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by chevymuscle311

They did the same thing when the SS first came out and they got the same numbers in the first tests that the magazines are getting now.

I am not doubting the fact that the SS will be easier to launch. The wider tires and not as aggressive gearing in the rear or tranny should make the car easier to drive.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

I am just waiting to see Evan Smith test one of the 2011 GTs. Preferably one with just the gear option and brembo package.

And it is really hard to give someone the keys to a new car they don't have much driving time in and ask them to go out and try acceleration tests in the car.

Any idea when this will happen? I am honestly excited for it.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Any idea when this will happen? I am honestly excited for it.

I don't know. The weird thing is this:

http://blogs.musclemustangfastfords....ive/index.html

Both cars are amazing in many different ways and we were able to drive models with a variety of packages. Unfortuneately, since the Ford press launch is still underway, our actual drive report is embargoed for a couple of days (we'll have the exact time for you later today). Nevertheless, we can give a huge thumbs up to the entire Mustang lineup and you can expect a full report soon.

There are dozens of real-world advancements that skyrocket Mustang ahead of the competition in creature comfort, mpg, and on-track performance. This is whole new era for Mustang and it's only going to get better.

Stay tuned for more as the week goes on!

That is from Evan Smith's blog on March 23rd.

But nothing else has come out since then about him driving the 2011 GT.

I have heard a rumor that he matched 2003 Cobra time he got but nowhere near what I would call a reliable source.

I would like to see Evan Smith do a SS vs GT test. Preferably a GT with the brembo brake package(mainly for the tires) and gear option. He would probably get the best printed times for both the SS and the GT.

[DeathChill]

Agreed, from everything I hear he is an amazing driver. The only reason that won't happen though is because he'd be pumping up the competition as well. Imagine if he hit a 12.5/6 in the SS, that would not impress Ford regardless of whether he ran the GT to a better time.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Agreed, from everything I hear he is an amazing driver. The only reason that won't happen though is because he'd be pumping up the competition as well. Imagine if he hit a 12.5/6 in the SS, that would not impress Ford regardless of whether he ran the GT to a better time.

He posted the best printed time for a LS1 4th gen F-bod in a comparison with the Stang. I don't see why he wouldn't do it again.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

He posted the best printed time for a LS1 4th gen F-bod in a comparison with the Stang. I don't see why he wouldn't do it again.

Wow, really? Definitely need to get him to do a comparison because we know he won't be sleeping behind the wheel!

[syr74]

Originally Posted by chevymuscle311

It is becoming more and more suspect with every other publication that is 3, 4 or 5 tenths off from it. I am not saying they didn't run it,

Actually, I think that is exactly what you are trying to say, but I get it...we always root for our side.

Originally Posted by chevymuscle311

just seems a little fishy that there is such a gap between that run and all the other publications. May have had a "special" tune, which makes a lot of sense considering it supposedly dynoed around like 435hp. Seems a little stupid to underrate it at 412 when the SS and SRT8 at 426.

Pure paranoia. In several tests over the course of the last year the Camaro has run 3 and 4 tenths of it's best ever run, is that now a lie too?

Originally Posted by chevymuscle311

As for your jab at PM, it is a repuatable magazine. As far as I know they have never rated a Miata over a ZR-1 vette.

My wife has a subscription to Good Housekeeping which is a reputable magazine as well....I don't look for car information within it.

Originally Posted by Death Chill

Car and Driver tested the Mustang with the 3.73 gears and the Brembo brake package and still came up short of the SS.

Now that one I missed. That said, what about this somehow undoes the Motor Trend result or compensates for the fact that no Camaro has ever run a 12.7 in an auto rag test?

Like I said elsewhere, the 12.7 isn't going to away no matter how much the Camaro loyal may wish it would.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by syr74

Actually, I think that is exactly what you are trying to say, but I get it...we always root for our side.

This is true.

Pure paranoia. In several tests over the course of the last year the Camaro has run 3 and 4 tenths of it's best ever run, is that now a lie too?

Got any links handy? I am curious because I don't recall that happening but I don't doubt it.

My wife has a subscription to Good Housekeeping which is a reputable magazine as well....I don't look for car information within it.

You're doing it all wrong then.

Now that one I missed. That said, what about this somehow undoes the Motor Trend result or compensates for the fact that no Camaro has ever run a 12.7 in an auto rag test?

Like I said elsewhere, the 12.7 isn't going to away no matter how much the Camaro loyal may wish it would.

I am not sure why you keep bringing this up. It certainly doesn't undo it but it does show the cars are much more evenly matched then you've been willing to admit.

Also, for all we know the Motor Trend review had them pushing the car as hard as they could to prove it to be the king of the hill. I am not saying this is the case, but we can't completely disregard every other review because they don't hit the same awesome MT numbers.

[syr74]

Hold the presses, the Camaro didn't outrun the Mustang in this test. It outran one Mustang tested by Edmunds but loses the drag race to the blue Mustang GT tested in the same issue. (yeah, that's right, they tested two Mustangs) Selective reading by our Chevy friends here? I would love to hear the OP's comments on this little oversight.

This deserves a thread of it's own for the sake of clarity and honesty.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Wow, really? Definitely need to get him to do a comparison because we know he won't be sleeping behind the wheel!

Yes he got a LS1 f-bod, forgot exactly what year, to run a 12.89 stock. And it was in hot summer weather. Very impressive.

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by syr74

Hold the presses, the Camaro didn't outrun the Mustang in this test. It outran one Mustang tested by Edmunds but loses the drag race to the blue Mustang GT tested in the same issue. (yeah, that's right, they tested two Mustangs) Selective reading by our Chevy friends here? I would love to hear the OP's comments on this little oversight.

This deserves a thread of it's own for the sake of clarity and honesty.

Go read throught the other two or three threads and you will see what they think.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by syr74

Hold the presses, the Camaro didn't outrun the Mustang in this test. It outran one Mustang tested by Edmunds but loses the drag race to the blue Mustang GT tested in the same issue. (yeah, that's right, they tested two Mustangs) Selective reading by our Chevy friends here? I would love to hear the OP's comments on this little oversight.

This deserves a thread of it's own for the sake of clarity and honesty.

I don't know if they tested the Blue GT the same day and time as the Red GT and SS though.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

I don't know if they tested the Blue GT the same day and time as the Red GT and SS though.

I suggest taking another look, because that is exactly that the language infers.