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Joe.G · 01-07-2023, 04:07 PM

Thank you for all the information, are tye Ti Shims worth adding? Do they effect pedal feel atvall? I read a few posts where people said they did and removed them.

cdb95z28 · 01-07-2023, 05:21 PM

I would not run the titanium shims with the OE HP1000 pads. The idea with the titanium is that since it has slow heat transfer properties, that the plates would slow the heat transfer from the pads into the caliper pistons. As I mentioned, the HP1000 pad can be overheated so we wouldn't want to do anything that would keep more heat in them. Now I did run the titanium plates on my Gen5 1LE when I ran Raybestos ST43 pads. The ST43 pads are a true racecar pad material with a very high temperature range. I never faded those pads and I felt there was no harm in keeping heat in them and, in effect, the rotor. There is no detriment in pedal feel with the titanium plates.

Joe.G · 01-07-2023, 05:26 PM

Thanks makes Sense.

Joe.G · 01-08-2023, 08:54 AM

Okay for front pads I see A GM # and AC # they appear to be the same pad Correct? The one link posted in this thread said they were not.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-171-1040
https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-171-1.../dp/B00559PCI6

Rear Pads matching the front
https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-171-0...00NW4OM0&psc=1

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-171-0882

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-GM-89.../dp/B00GUBN58C

Front Rotors GM
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-177-1145
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-19419984

Front Brembo
https://www.amazon.com/Brembo-09-A66.../dp/B07WKMTKS9
https://www.amazon.com/Brembo-09-A66.../dp/B07VWVD61R

Rear GM

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-177-1051

Rear Brembo

https://www.amazon.com/Brembo-09-A50.../dp/B075Y52BP8

CamaroCracka · 01-08-2023, 04:47 PM

The pads you are looking at here are the OEM Brembo pads and what you are looking for. BREMBO PN P37018N you mentioned in Royal Tiger's thread are ceramic and not the same Brembo part number as these.

The Brembo part numbers you list for front rotors are what I run with my Gen5 ZL1 brakes. I cannot tell the difference between them and spare set of used rotors I have from a ZL1.

cdb95z28 · 01-08-2023, 11:26 PM

The AC Delco is the same as the GM#. You can look at the pads when you get them and they will be stamped HP1000

171-1040 is what you want for the front.

171-0882 is what you want for the rear.

177-1145 and 177-1146 are what you want for the front rotors. OR, the Brembos I mentioned in my thread here:https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585555

177-1051 is what you want for the rear rotors, which are the same rear rotors already on your car. OR the Brembos you mentioned.

Always reference this thread for pertinent parts #s and info:

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348133

Joe.G · 01-09-2023, 09:39 AM

Thanks I ordered the Calipers from Hawks today, the set I was watching sold right before I went to place my order, I have ZL1 Calipers coming. I have The Backing plates, Bolts and new hardware kits along with the Lines here already. Now I need to get Rotors and Pads. Thanks for all of the help. I am sure I will have more questions.

Z28-2015 · 01-10-2023, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdb95z28

C7 ZO6/Grand Sport iron brakes
2009-14 2nd Generation CTS-V
2017 to present Gen6 Camaro SS 1LE, excluding the optional 22+ BCD copper free brake package

Tons of info here on the ZL1 package upgrade:

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348133

Are the Gen6 brakes really any better than the 5th gen Brembos??

cdb95z28 · 01-10-2023, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z28-2015

Are the Gen6 brakes really any better than the 5th gen Brembos??

Where did you hear that?

Joe.G · 01-15-2023, 09:34 AM

I ordered this rotor today,
The Price was right and it said one left hopefully I'll get it and it's a Real Brembo rotor. I'll order the rest next week. I was leaning towards teh DBA But the price is right with these.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

What is the deal with this rear rotor, They come with Black Hat, is it comparable to the Brembo or the other GM Part # Specs on Rock auto say it is a little smaller than other GM Rotor but it may be mis print.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...=1896&jsn=1048

Joe.G · 01-16-2023, 12:30 PM

Amazon cancelled my order like I figured they would, Stating the part was out of stock. At this point I am on the fence with getting the DBA Rotors or Brembo. The price is about $300 difference total. I am just not sure which is the better long term choice.

Leo72793 · 01-16-2023, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe.G

Amazon cancelled my order like I figured they would, Stating the part was out of stock. At this point I am on the fence with getting the DBA Rotors or Brembo. The price is about $300 difference total. I am just not sure which is the better long term choice.

Im leaning towards DBA at this point. OEM is great but if i can get a good deal on DBA for a hair more, its more worth it for me

Joe.G · 01-20-2023, 01:24 PM

Purchased the Front and Rear Brembo version from Amazon.

Joe.G · 01-27-2023, 06:51 AM

I received all 4 Rotors from Amazon, 3 of the boxes ( All came boxed well from amazon )were in great shape the other was a bit rough and it appears it shipped judging by the stickers to a couple different performance shops before finally being sold to me and this Brembo box was slightly different maybe a older version.

Rotors look great and they are large. I may paint the hat area on the rears black I picked up Hi Temp primer and I have different Hi Temp paints. I just dont want them to rust and look bad.

01-07-2023, 04:07 PM	#29
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	Thank you for all the information, are tye Ti Shims worth adding? Do they effect pedal feel atvall? I read a few posts where people said they did and removed them. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

01-07-2023, 05:21 PM	#30
cdb95z28 Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Johnstown, PA Posts: 3,320	I would not run the titanium shims with the OE HP1000 pads. The idea with the titanium is that since it has slow heat transfer properties, that the plates would slow the heat transfer from the pads into the caliper pistons. As I mentioned, the HP1000 pad can be overheated so we wouldn't want to do anything that would keep more heat in them. Now I did run the titanium plates on my Gen5 1LE when I ran Raybestos ST43 pads. The ST43 pads are a true racecar pad material with a very high temperature range. I never faded those pads and I felt there was no harm in keeping heat in them and, in effect, the rotor. There is no detriment in pedal feel with the titanium plates. __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR2014 1SS 1LE NPP RECARO SIM-SOLD1995 Z28 M6 GSC PGM-SOLD1975 NOVA COUPE 300HP 350 TH350 FLASH RED-SOLD

01-07-2023, 05:26 PM	#31
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	Thanks makes Sense. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

01-08-2023, 08:54 AM	#32
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	Okay for front pads I see A GM # and AC # they appear to be the same pad Correct? The one link posted in this thread said they were not. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-171-1040 https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-171-1.../dp/B00559PCI6 Rear Pads matching the front https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-171-0...00NW4OM0&psc=1 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-171-0882 https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-GM-89.../dp/B00GUBN58C Front Rotors GM https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-177-1145 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-19419984 Front Brembo https://www.amazon.com/Brembo-09-A66.../dp/B07WKMTKS9 https://www.amazon.com/Brembo-09-A66.../dp/B07VWVD61R Rear GM https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-177-1051 Rear Brembo https://www.amazon.com/Brembo-09-A50.../dp/B075Y52BP8 __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

01-08-2023, 04:47 PM	#33
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,846	The pads you are looking at here are the OEM Brembo pads and what you are looking for. BREMBO PN P37018N you mentioned in Royal Tiger's thread are ceramic and not the same Brembo part number as these. The Brembo part numbers you list for front rotors are what I run with my Gen5 ZL1 brakes. I cannot tell the difference between them and spare set of used rotors I have from a ZL1. __________________ 2010 SS - Kind of an On3 kit, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

01-08-2023, 11:26 PM	#34
cdb95z28 Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Johnstown, PA Posts: 3,320	The AC Delco is the same as the GM#. You can look at the pads when you get them and they will be stamped HP1000 171-1040 is what you want for the front. 171-0882 is what you want for the rear. 177-1145 and 177-1146 are what you want for the front rotors. OR, the Brembos I mentioned in my thread here:https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585555 177-1051 is what you want for the rear rotors, which are the same rear rotors already on your car. OR the Brembos you mentioned. Always reference this thread for pertinent parts #s and info: https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348133 __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR2014 1SS 1LE NPP RECARO SIM-SOLD1995 Z28 M6 GSC PGM-SOLD1975 NOVA COUPE 300HP 350 TH350 FLASH RED-SOLD

01-09-2023, 09:39 AM	#35
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	Thanks I ordered the Calipers from Hawks today, the set I was watching sold right before I went to place my order, I have ZL1 Calipers coming. I have The Backing plates, Bolts and new hardware kits along with the Lines here already. Now I need to get Rotors and Pads. Thanks for all of the help. I am sure I will have more questions. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

01-15-2023, 09:34 AM	#38
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	I ordered this rotor today, The Price was right and it said one left hopefully I'll get it and it's a Real Brembo rotor. I'll order the rest next week. I was leaning towards teh DBA But the price is right with these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 What is the deal with this rear rotor, They come with Black Hat, is it comparable to the Brembo or the other GM Part # Specs on Rock auto say it is a little smaller than other GM Rotor but it may be mis print. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...=1896&jsn=1048 __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount. Last edited by Joe.G; 01-15-2023 at 01:45 PM.

01-16-2023, 12:30 PM	#39
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	Amazon cancelled my order like I figured they would, Stating the part was out of stock. At this point I am on the fence with getting the DBA Rotors or Brembo. The price is about $300 difference total. I am just not sure which is the better long term choice. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

01-20-2023, 01:24 PM	#41
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	Purchased the Front and Rear Brembo version from Amazon. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

01-27-2023, 06:51 AM	#42
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,325	I received all 4 Rotors from Amazon, 3 of the boxes ( All came boxed well from amazon )were in great shape the other was a bit rough and it appears it shipped judging by the stickers to a couple different performance shops before finally being sold to me and this Brembo box was slightly different maybe a older version. Rotors look great and they are large. I may paint the hat area on the rears black I picked up Hi Temp primer and I have different Hi Temp paints. I just dont want them to rust and look bad. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.