I am not ashamed... V6 bound.

[jim57fi]

I wish the GENERAL would check this site and see that there a bunch of us out here that would like to get our V6 equipped cars along with the V8 folks. As I understand it, and I hope that I'm wrong, is that we will wait until each dealer gets a V6 for the showroom. I ordered my 2LT/RS on 10-13-08. I really like the idea of a 21st century engine in the my new camaro. I already have 4 SBC (two 283s, one L98 350, and one LS1) equipped Chevies that I can hop into to get that V8 rush and sound. The Camaro will be my everyday car and I'm gonna love putting regular in a fuel tank for a change.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by 9SevenSS

True, I suppose.
Just as an example, in a 2010 SS, my trip back home to Philly from Charlottesville (~300mi) would burn 13.6 gallons of gas. I think my current SS must get less than 20 because my 15 gallon tank can barely make the trip.

On the other hand the V6 will get me there on 12 gallons. Does anyone know what type of fuel is recommended for each? Because on top of the difference in mileage, the difference in gas price will also be a factor. It definitely adds up in the long run...

But, nothing beats the sound and feel of a V8. Can't win em all I guess...

Originally Posted by Visual_Perfection

^^ V6 only needs Regular, V8 will need premium... so that right there makes a difference, especially around here, premium is around .30 a gallon more!! Rediuclous.

Both V6 and V8 will run fine on regular fuel. They retard the ignition timing to account for lower octane.

It has been shown conclusively that the premium fuel pays for itself by increasing engine output and therefore fuel mileage.

So, no difference there between V8 and V6, use regular fuel if you insist.

So we're down to 1.6 gallons of gas as the difference in the stated trip.

Add all the power, torque, and sound of an LS3 V8, and there is no comparison in my opinion.

The bottom line is, the V6 is kick-ass too, and you really can win them all.

Just different flavors of fun. Enjoy your V6 or V8 Camaro!

[9SevenSS]

Originally Posted by camaro5

Both V6 and V8 will run fine on regular fuel. They retard the ignition timing to account for lower octane.

It has been shown conclusively that the premium fuel pays for itself by increasing engine output and therefore fuel mileage.

So, no difference there between V8 and V6, use regular fuel if you insist.

So we're down to 1.6 gallons of gas as the difference in the stated trip.

Add all the power, torque, and sound of an LS3 V8, and there is no comparison in my opinion.

The bottom line is, the V6 is kick-ass too, and you really can win them all.

Just different flavors of fun. Enjoy your V6 or V8 Camaro!

Hey, where did you get that info from? A 6.2L V8 engine running on regular fuel?!? I wanna know how! If that's really true, it would eliminate a lot of my concern (except for the sticker price, of course). But it seems unreasonable to believe that the car would run and well on regular gas.

I'd probably be putting at least 89 in my V6, to be generous.

[Koru]

Originally Posted by camaro5

V8 will run fine on regular fuel.

[9SevenSS]

Originally Posted by Koru

Lol... uhh... thanks. but I was looking for more of an explanation of how this feat has been achieved. And for it to perform on regular fuel... that's a pretty powerful statement. Any technical details from the General?

[Camarino]

I did read somewhere that they recommend a middle octane fuel for the V8
unfortunately i don't remember where i read it so i have nothing to back that up, i just remember reading it, maybe in the brochure i got from my dealer

[camaro5]

GM recommends premium fuel. But regular is allowed.

I already posted how they do it, the engine retards ignition timing to reduce detonation caused by lower octane fuel.

I also posted the premium provides higher mpg that offsets the added cost of premium fuel.

Use Google if you want more.

[MD]

Originally Posted by camaro5

The V6 is a great new engine. You can't go wrong.

As far as responsibility, these mileage numbers are awfully close, imho.

V6
17/25 man
18/27 auto
V8
15/22 man
15/23 auto

GM supplied EPA estimates.

I'm getting manual trans, so it's 15 or 17 mpg city, 22 or 25 hwy, not much difference.

This is strange news to my ears (or eyes) because in most models the Manual produces higher MPG's as opposed to the automatic...Can anyone justify this for the Camaro? cause Im getting the manual and this doesnt seem right!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by MD

This is strange news to my ears (or eyes) because in most models the Manual produces higher MPG's as opposed to the automatic...Can anyone justify this for the Camaro? cause Im getting the manual and this doesnt seem right!

You're reading it right.

Assuming those numbers don't change in a couple weeks when they go onto dealer lots, I would say that those results are due to two things:

The manual they mated to the V6 is extremely agressive in its gearing. For one, it's got a 4:1 first gear....in my opinion (at least) that's insane! Then, when cruising at 60mph...the Tremec unit in the SS spins at 1400rpm in 6th...the Aisin in the V6 spins at 1800rpm...which uses more fuel, obviously.

They clearly wanted the V6 manual to feel more engaging and 'fast' than the automatic version...as such, mileage was sacrificed. They probably figured they would sell many more autos, so they'd better focus on fuel economy for that one.

Which leads me to the next possible explanation: Automatic shift-timing. They can hone in on when the transmission shifts, maximising fuel economy. That's how they raised mpg from the original 26 to 27. Plus, the autos in the SS and V6 are identical (except the SS's auto is a little beefier); and they both spin 1600rpms @ 60mph. So you've got a little savings there...

[Camarino]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

You're reading it right.

Assuming those numbers don't change in a couple weeks when they go onto dealer lots, I would say that those results are due to two things:

The manual they mated to the V6 is extremely agressive in its gearing. For one, it's got a 4:1 first gear....in my opinion (at least) that's insane! Then, when cruising at 60mph...the Tremec unit in the SS spins at 1400rpm in 6th...the Aisin in the V6 spins at 1800rpm...which uses more fuel, obviously.

They clearly wanted the V6 manual to feel more engaging and 'fast' than the automatic version...as such, mileage was sacrificed. They probably figured they would sell many more autos, so they'd better focus on fuel economy for that one.

Which leads me to the next possible explanation: Automatic shift-timing. They can hone in on when the transmission shifts, maximising fuel economy. That's how they raised mpg from the original 26 to 27. Plus, the autos in the SS and V6 are identical (except the SS's auto is a little beefier); and they both spin 1600rpms @ 60mph. So you've got a little savings there...

yea Dragoneye is correct, i have a brochure form a dealership that confirms it

[ChevyBoiSS]

no need to be ashamed the V6 is excellent!

[Phil Oliver]

What the V6 offers to me is a new Camaro that I can afford to buy and run. It will still turn every head as I drive buy and still looks just as awesome. Plus 304 is plenty enough HP for me.

[joepitt]

Originally Posted by Phil Oliver

What the V6 offers to me is a new Camaro that I can afford to buy and run. It will still turn every head as I drive buy and still looks just as awesome. Plus 304 is plenty enough HP for me.

Add to everything the new EPA stated MPG of 29 highway and you've got the best looking economy car on the road. I've driven this engine in the CTS and it moves out nicely.

[StarkyLuv]

Originally Posted by joepitt

Add to everything the new EPA stated MPG of 29 highway and you've got the best looking economy car on the road. I've driven this engine in the CTS and it moves out nicely.

Exactly. It's a miraculous ECONOMY car! A fierce-looking, 304hp ECONOMY car!

I can't believe GM is pulling this off!