2010 Supercharged Camaro vs. ZL1

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Strzelec

OK you win I'm ignorant, but I still say no matter what year it is a ZL1 will have much greater value than any modded out camaro.

You are probably right there....they will likely hold their value really well the first few years...once they become more common probably not so much. Still better than a modded Camaro though...no question.

[Blk-Ice]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

You are probably right there....they will likely hold their value really well the first few years...once they become more common probably not so much. Still better than a modded Camaro though...no question.

....what if you get it modded by a reputable company like Lingenfelter? Lets say the 650 forged package. Just asking?

[SSE 4 2SS]

Cars modded for show will tend to hold value a little better than cars modded for performance... As was mentioned, the assumption is that a car modded for performance has been flogged on really bad and therefore nothing but trouble will come...

People will pay more for a car that looks good but is close to factory condition due to an assumption that it was shown and not raced...

Look at the numbers in my signature and make a determination on what has been done with it.... And then consider that to date, there have been less than 7 passes down the quarter mile.... But... There is no way in heck anyone would ever give me even half what I have in it.... I would be lucky to get out of the car what I originally paid for the it and that was at least 500 dollars ago...

As for a known builder like Lingenfelter, there are some that will buy the additional barging and performance... But certainly not paying what the original owner paid for the upgrade... Oh it does happen, but not often...

[Blk-Ice]

Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

Cars modded for show will tend to hold value a little better than cars modded for performance... As was mentioned, the assumption is that a car modded for performance has been flogged on really bad and therefore nothing but trouble will come...

People will pay more for a car that looks good but is close to factory condition due to an assumption that it was shown and not raced...

Look at the numbers in my signature and make a determination on what has been done with it.... And then consider that to date, there have been less than 7 passes down the quarter mile.... But... There is no way in heck anyone would ever give me even half what I have in it.... I would be lucky to get out of the car what I originally paid for the it and that was at least 500 dollars ago...

As for a known builder like Lingenfelter, there are some that will buy the additional barging and performance... But certainly not paying what the original owner paid for the upgrade... Oh it does happen, but not often...

I appreciate the response. I asked because i'm close to pulling the trigger on the 650 forged package on my 2010 2SS/RS. I'm not a racer.....i just like the felling of having the extra horses. Question.....do you think 20,000 miles on a 2010 is too many miles to waste the extra cash on a LPG forged package?

[nanokpsi]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

He already owns his car......and my car will run away from a ZL1 in a straight line like it was towing a camper. If starting from scratch I would positively say buy the ZL1...you are way ahead starting with that but if you already have an SS then you will lose another 10-15k on the trade and depreciation...at LEAST.

The difference maker to me, is whether you already own an SS to build.

If you are starting from scratch, I say it very much depends on your goals. For instance, if you want a 800whp bruiser, you are better off with the SS. For that power you would be building the motor anyways, and you would be taking of the OEM blower from the ZL1.

It comes down to the amount of money owed on the SS, plus the mod budget vs the cost of the ZL1, plus required mods to meet your goals, minus the equity from the SS.

Speaking from experience, you get a lot of pride out of building somthing yourself, but you can easily get to the point of dealing with "issues" that come with a big build.

[GEEo]

I'm with HufferSS on this one.

[daveagogo1]

I won't speak to the handling aspect but, if you already have an SS. You can Supercharge it, add some supporting mods to get the power down and WALK AWAY from a ZL1 in the 1/4 for less money. If you have a 2012 FE4 suspension you can at least add $5k worth of suspension and probably hang pretty well on a road course.

[Fiftydriver]

Do you buy a vehicle of your dreams with resell value in mind? I have wanted a camaro since I was 16 years old, that was 22 years ago. I simply could not afford a quality camaro in the generation that I liked. Then came the Gen V and I saw an option to get the car of my dreams and a platform I could modify to be "MINE".

I did not plan on driving it for three years and reselling. I bought my idea of the perfect factory car and am currently in the process of making it exactly what I want in my dream muscle car.

The camaro is an amazing car out of the box but its potential to be individualized is simply amazing, staggering really. For the way I drive my car, Street driving, I would never see the advantage of the suspension of the ZL1. I also do not like the hood. I also want more power and already have it and next step of mods will take it far beyond the ZL1, hell, beyond the ZR1 vette.

If you want a factory warrantee and will be happy leave your car as is for 100,000 miles or five years, go with the ZL1. If you want to make your camaro your own.......... I think the choice is obvious.

One more question, how many of us will have access to a road course and how many of us have the skills to take true advantage of the ZL1s special suspension.

They are all Gen V camaros, you really can not go wrong either way but its really a personal choice that you have to make for yourself to be happy with your choice.

[mikeSS]

the beauty of the Zl1 to me over a modded camaro. is that you dont have to worry about it as much. you have warranty and insurance to cover damages. and having it mostly stock will be easy fix. i would go for ZL1, if i didn't mod my car as much as i did. i could be getting a Zl1 also no problem. but i seem to be taking the path of keep modding this car, which i regret more and more each day. but at the same time love it. lol

[SSE 4 2SS]

Originally Posted by Blk-Ice

I appreciate the response. I asked because i'm close to pulling the trigger on the 650 forged package on my 2010 2SS/RS. I'm not a racer.....i just like the felling of having the extra horses. Question.....do you think 20,000 miles on a 2010 is too many miles to waste the extra cash on a LPG forged package?

If I understand the question correctly, you ae asking if you have too many miles on the car to consider modding the heck out of it... No way... Your right in the zone... I drove mine 13000 miles and basically threw the factory motor away...

If you're asking about a used car with the Lingenfelter Kit in it... and if it's worth buying it with that many miles... try to go to a meet with the guy that owns it, ask him about his driving style and how badly he has flogged on the car...Take it to a mechanic and have it checked over...

[bhall82]

Originally Posted by GEEo

I'm with HufferSS on this one.

[KamaroKid9614]

Go for the ZL1 its under warranty and still supercharged

[BowtieBelle]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

The ZL1 groupies are going to hate me but for 20k dollars you could build your 2010 into 3x the car the ZL1 is....it will be faster in the 1/4 and handle better around the track. It won't be a ZL1 but then again you won't care about running up the miles or the depreciation.

[kbui]

From personal experience, I have to agree with Dragoneye on this one. Unless you can do all the work yourself, it will cost you 20K to take your SS to the ZL1's overall package and you will not have the PTM: the convenience of turning a knob inside your car to change it ride/handling on the fly. The costs of buying individual parts versus a built on the factory ass'y line can't be matched. It will always cost you more to buy parts separately and have it installed.

These are things I already have on mine: Maggie, coilovers, bushings, swaybars, exhaust, coldair, conservative tune, GFX, body parts and aerodynamics parts...

and the things I still need: beefed up rear end and axles..., better transmission, forged wheels and bigger tires, better brakes, L99 to LS3 conversion and a cam...

By the time I have all of these things done, It would costs me just about the same as a new ZL1. Why would I do this? Because I will not part with my ABM and I am getting a car that was setup just for ME the way I want it. Furthermore, I have been enjoying MY Camaro for over 2 years and didn't have to wait for it...