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[KILLER74Z28]

It’s not necessarily what type of car the teen is driving, it’s the training and conditions… It falls back on the parents making sure their new teenage driver is taught correctly, respects the privilege of being able to drive, and is aware there is consequences for any unsafe driving.

http://www.iihs.org/research/fatalit...teenagers.html


A total of 4,946 teenagers ages 13-19 died in motor vehicle crashes in 2007. This is 43 percent fewer than in 1975, and 4 percent fewer than in 2006. About 2 out of every 3 teenagers killed in motor vehicle crashes in 2007 were males. Since 1975 teenage motor vehicle crash deaths have decreased more among males (50 percent) than among females (24 percent).

Teenagers accounted for 10 percent of the US population in 2007 and 12 percent of motor vehicle crash deaths. They comprised 14 percent of passenger vehicle (cars, pickups, SUVs, and vans) occupant deaths among all ages, 7 percent of pedestrian deaths, 5 percent of motorcyclist deaths, and 12 percent of bicyclist deaths.

Eighty-four percent of teenage motor vehicle crash deaths in 2007 were passenger vehicle occupants. The others were pedestrians (7 percent), motorcyclists (5 percent), bicyclists (2 percent), riders of all-terrain vehicles (2 percent), and people in other kinds of vehicles (1 percent).

In 2005, the latest year for which data are available, motor vehicle crashes were the leading cause of death among 13-19 year-old males and females in the United States. Thirty-three percent of deaths among 13-19 year-olds occurred in motor vehicle crashes, 40 percent among females and 31 percent among males.

In 2007, 58 percent of deaths among passenger vehicle occupants ages 16-19 were drivers.

Sixty-one percent of teenage passenger deaths in 2007 occurred in vehicles driven by another teenager. Among deaths of passengers of all ages, 20 percent occurred when a teenager was driving.

In 2007, belt use among fatally injured drivers ages 16-19 (40 percent) was higher than among fatally injured drivers ages 20-29 (34 percent) but lower than among drivers 30 and older. Among fatally injured 16-19 year-old occupants, belt use among passengers (31 percent) was considerably lower than among drivers (40 percent). Note that belt use among those fatally injured is not always accurately recorded, but it gives an indication of relative belt use rates in serious crashes by age group.

Among passenger vehicle drivers ages 16-19 involved in fatal crashes in 2007, 48 percent were involved in single-vehicle crashes. This was similar to the proportion for drivers ages 20-24 (47 percent) but higher than for drivers ages 25 and older (37 percent).

From 1975 to 2007, the rate of deaths per 100,000 people declined by 43 percent for teenagers (from 29.4 to 16.6 per 100,000). In contrast, the death rate declined by 70 percent for people 12 and younger (from 7.9 to 2.4 per 100,000), 30 percent for people ages 20-69 (from 22.4 to 15.7 per 100,000), and 35 percent for people 70 and older (from 25.9 to 16.9 per 100,000).

The rate of deaths per 100,000 people in 2007 peaked at age 19 for male drivers (22.5 per 100,000) and at age 18 for male passengers (12.4 per 100,000). Death rates peaked at age 18 for female drivers (9.5 per 100,000) and at age 17 and 18 for female passengers (7.6 per 100,000).

The rate of fatal passenger vehicle crash involvements per 100 million miles traveled in 2001-02 was highest at ages 16-17 for male drivers and at age 16 for female drivers.9

The rate of nighttime fatal passenger vehicle crash involvements per 100 million miles traveled in 2001-02 was almost 6 times higher for male drivers ages 16-19 than for male drivers ages 30-59. The corresponding comparison for females yields 3 times the rate.9

Thirty-four percent of teenage motor vehicle crash deaths in 2007 occurred between 6 pm and midnight.

Young drivers are less likely than adults to drive after drinking alcohol, but their crash risk is substantially higher when they do. This is especially true at low and moderate blood alcohol concentrations (BACs).10 The estimated percentage of fatally injured passenger vehicle drivers ages 16-17 who had BACs at or above 0.08 percent in 2007 was 18 percent, down 57 percent since 1982. Most of this decline took place in the 1980s. This age group experienced the greatest decline in alcohol involvement, compared with a 44 percent decline for drivers ages 18-20, a 18 percent decline for drivers ages 21-30, and a 31 percent decline for drivers older than 30.

Fatally injured female teenage drivers were less likely than male teenage drivers in 2007 to have high BACs. Among fatally injured passenger vehicle drivers ages 16-17, 22 percent of males and 11 percent of females in 2007 had BACs at or above 0.08 percent. Among fatally injured drivers ages 18-19, 32 percent of males and 18 percent of females had BACs at or above 0.08 percent.

[KILLER74Z28]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

hmm i guess having a certified 9.90 competition nhra license before a drivers license and making sub 10 second passes in a built car down the qtr mile has never been done by a 16 year old hundreds of times..My 15 year old daughter is in the elevens in my LPE z06 at the 1/4mi track and she only has a learners permit...i let her drive me around town,hwys and road trips in it all the time..matter of fact she is the only one who i will let drive it besides me. The point I am making is "the to much power" rule does not apply to every youngster, until you know his background dont assume. I started driving on my own at age 12 and started my daughter at the same age, back in 1989 when i was 16 it was nothing for my dad to throw me the keys to his vette to drive to school, because i didnt have gas in my mazda..I'm from Georgia and that was common practice for a lot of kids out in the country, the Original Poster is from south georgia so it's probably safe to assume he is growing up the same way.

Agree 100%... Yes, not everyone can handle a hot car at the age of 16 but there are many who can and do. My first car at age 16 was a 69 Firebird 400 making well over 350 HP and I never had an issue. If you’re taught to respect speed (and yes speed kills) you should have no problem being a safe driver.

[LosXC451]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

Umm.... bad idea.. i dont care how much you type or how mature you sound.
all that goes out the windows when all that power is at the tip of your foot.
your parents are far too kind.

Once again, people assume that teenagers can't handle too much power. FYI I've been driving my dad's Z06 until I get my car and still haven't gone over the speedlimit

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by LosXC451

Once again, people assume that teenagers can't handle too much power. FYI I've been driving my dad's Z06 until I get my car and still haven't gone over the speedlimit

I'm going by facts and personal experience bro i'm not making anything up, this is not an assumption it is indeed a FACT that teenage drivers account for most accidents and vehicle deaths anywhere... so no i'm not assuming most teenagers can't handle power they have proven it themselves. this is not an opinion.

[LosXC451]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

I'm going by facts and personal experience bro i'm not making anything up, this is not an assumption it is indeed a FACT that teenage drivers account for most accidents and vehicle deaths anywhere... so no i'm not assuming most teenagers can't handle power they have proven it themselves. this is not an opinion.

And that is why people assume it, sorry stereotypes just bother me.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by LosXC451

And that is why people assume it, sorry stereotypes just bother me.

how do you call something that happens in real life a stereotype and thats why people assume it?

when you assume something it usually means it's not true and you made a pre-judgment, when you take facts and statistics and say MOST teenage drivers cant handle power thats kind of a true statement given the facts stated isnt it?

[LosXC451]

I consider it a stereotype
By the way, very off topic, but I just noticed that before this post my post count was the same as the HP of the Z06...okay continue...

[KILLER74Z28]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

how do you call something that happens in real life a stereotype and thats why people assume it?

when you assume something it usually means it's not true and you made a pre-judgment, when you take facts and statistics and say MOST teenage drivers cant handle power thats kind of a true statement given the facts stated isnt it?

But you are not stating facts… You are making it sound like all teenagers deaths are caused by teens in fast cars and that is not true. Look at the stats I posted above from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

But you are not stating facts… You are making it sound like all teenagers deaths are caused by teens in fast cars and that is not true. Look at the stats I posted above from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

i said MOST. and it's not fiction.

[LosXC451]

Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

But you are not stating facts… You are making it sound like all teenagers deaths are caused by teens in fast cars and that is not true. Look at the stats I posted above from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

Thank you for helping me prove my point

[ljustin293]

Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

But you are not stating facts… You are making it sound like all teenagers deaths are caused by teens in fast cars and that is not true. Look at the stats I posted above from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

And....speeding is speeding no matter what car you are in...fast muscle car or a truck..it doesn't matter...(and speed is speed no matter how old you are)as long as you respect the speed, you will be fine no matter what vehicle you are driving..but if you don't repect speed, you can wreck just as quickly in a truck, a camaro, a civic, or anything else...

...so to the OP, if the camaro works out for you..great..just repect it...not only for yourself, but respect it because your parents are trusting enough in you to get you a camaro...treat it like you bought it like I will...(I'm 19 will be 20 once mine comes in) good luck and I hope it works out...

[LosXC451]

Originally Posted by ljustin293

And....speeding is speeding no matter what car you are in...fast muscle car or a truck..it doesn't matter...(and speed is speed no matter how old you are)as long as you respect the speed, you will be fine no matter what vehicle you are driving..but if you don't repect speed, you can wreck just as quickly in a truck, a camaro, a civic, or anything else...

...so to the OP, if the camaro works out for you..great..just repect it...not only for yourself, but respect it because your parents are trusting enough in you to get you a camaro...treat it like you bought it like I will...(I'm 19 will be 20 once mine comes in) good luck and I hope it works out...

Once again thank you for reinforcing my point

[KILLER74Z28]

Originally Posted by ljustin293

And....speeding is speeding no matter what car you are in...fast muscle car or a truck..it doesn't matter...(and speed is speed no matter how old you are)as long as you respect the speed, you will be fine no matter what vehicle you are driving..but if you don't repect speed, you can wreck just as quickly in a truck, a camaro, a civic, or anything else...

...so to the OP, if the camaro works out for you..great..just repect it...not only for yourself, but respect it because your parents are trusting enough in you to get you a camaro...treat it like you bought it like I will...(I'm 19 will be 20 once mine comes in) good luck and I hope it works out...

Right on the nose...

[nimnels]

thank you for everyones' post here.
i would just like to say one thing. 2 years ago my aunt, who has always been extremely close to my family and i especially me for some reason me and her have always held a very close relationship, was mowing her lawn on a thursday morning around 9 o'clock when a drunk driver crossed the road and hit her. the driver was driving a truck and when the driver hit her it was with enough force that the mirror on that side of the vehicle was torn from the truck. my aunt went to the emergency room and was in critical condition for many days and after that was still kept in the hospital for roughly 2 weeks being monitored. before the accident she was the headmistress of a school in Florida and getting ready to accept a job at the university of Florida teaching a class. i am glad to say that she lived through the accident better than any of our family members could had hoped for but ever since that day she has to have help with everything that she does from eating, walking up the stairs, getting in and out of bed, and everything that we take for granted every day. i share this story to let every one know that i do not take the statistics lightly and blow them off and say "oh that will never happen to me", i do understand the great responsibility that comes with driving. and ever since that day whenever i hear about some of my buddies who are old enough to drive already saying that i can catch a ride with them and i see more people than the car can hold jump in and everyone is laughing all i can think about is that morning that my parents picked me up from school and told me that there had been an accident.
so once again thank you for all of your help. i just wanted to share my experience with this car that we all have been anticipating for so long.