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CAM....ZL1 · 02-23-2013, 07:12 PM

What a car, for what it is it is perfect the way it is. Why buy a zl1 to tear down and build a race car. Why not just buy a cheep car and build a drag car. Because no matter how much weight you can shave off or how much power you add, it will never be enough.

2cnd chance · 02-23-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

It's been asked a zillion times already. But basically 2 reasons. 1. They took an existing heavy platform and created the Camaro out of it, 2. safety regulations for crash protection.
Next gen will be based on a lighter platform and will probably be 5 to 8 hundred pounds lighter.

No chance the Camaro will lose 500-800 lbs in the 6Gen. 200-300 tops.

2cnd chance · 02-23-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ayousef

The problem is, I have a heavier blower, heavier radiator, heat exchanger and a few additional items such as a radiator overflow tank and a catch tank etc... However I also have 2" headers and a full 3" exhaust, no windsheild washer resevoir, no wipers, will take off the rear seats, might install a lightweight battery but at this point I will be taking weight off areas where I COULD use some additional weight for traction.

Seibon have carbon fenders, not sure how much weight they shave off the factory fenders, I also kinda like the slightly flared version.

Lets talk seats, are there any nice carbon fiber COMFORTABLE bucket seats?

Sounds like your heading in a good direction. Maybe also 2 piece rear rotors. BTW, if you're racing 1/4 mile each 100 lbs nocked off only reduces the time by a tenth, better to add power.

BAD ZL1 · 02-23-2013, 10:41 PM

ayousef

A five star safety rating is part of the weight rating with all the air bags and big car frame. If you want a skinny car with no safety rating, why not buy a Dubai production car...Oh wait, Dubai doesn't make a production car OHHH!!!!!

fielderLS3 · 02-23-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ayousef

Trying to find excuses for why our cars are pigs but I cant, where is all the weight coming from?

The NHTSA.

KaBoom1701 · 02-23-2013, 10:47 PM

Maybe it's my fat ass in the drivers seat???

The IOM Ninja · 02-23-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

No chance the Camaro will lose 500-800 lbs in the 6Gen. 200-300 tops.

With 500-800 lbs lost the Corvette wouldn't stand a chance if the Camaro gets the LT1. You'd have a lot of pissed off Corvette owners...

RedWingsZL1 · 02-23-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BAD ZL1

ayousef

A five star safety rating is part of the weight rating with all the air bags and big car frame. If you want a skinny car with no safety rating, why not buy a Dubai production car...Oh wait, Dubai doesn't make a production car OHHH!!!!!

Dubai is one of the richest cities in the world, if UAE wanted to make a car, you couldn't afford it. Just saying. In the Dubai airport there's a MP412C supercar. In your mall I bet there's a Malibu or some other family sedan.

hv92 · 02-24-2013, 12:33 AM

The weight is there for a reason. Safety.

ayousef · 02-24-2013, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BAD ZL1

ayousef

A five star safety rating is part of the weight rating with all the air bags and big car frame. If you want a skinny car with no safety rating, why not buy a Dubai production car...Oh wait, Dubai doesn't make a production car OHHH!!!!!

so all the sub 4000lbs cars in the world are non safe vehicles, and if you're approacing a curb weight of 3000lbs then you're asking for a death wish

good excuse...

ayousef · 02-24-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Sounds like your heading in a good direction. Maybe also 2 piece rear rotors. BTW, if you're racing 1/4 mile each 100 lbs nocked off only reduces the time by a tenth, better to add power.

Im swapping out both front and rear brakes, not sure if there would be any weight savings on the fronts too, I guess time will tell. They are 410mm 12piston caliper fronts, and 385mm 6piston caliper rears, got brakes?

RedWingsZL1 · 02-24-2013, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ayousef

Im swapping out both front and rear brakes, not sure if there would be any weight savings on the fronts too, I guess time will tell. They are 410mm 12piston caliper fronts, and 385mm 6piston caliper rears, got brakes?

Jeez! You guys in Dubai with all your money haha. I go through there 2-3 times a year as I travel from work back to the states. BEAUTIFUL city, and I've barely seen it as i only travel back and forth between the terminals at the airport haha.

Blake_GM · 02-24-2013, 06:36 AM

I am going to go ahead and resist a Borat quote here. You can Google "Borat Magnet" and see what pops up. That's my answer.

RBD · 02-24-2013, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

No chance the Camaro will lose 500-800 lbs in the 6Gen. 200-300 tops.

agreed......

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02-23-2013, 07:12 PM	#29
CAM....ZL1 Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: BENTON, IL. Posts: 1,068 View My Garage	What a car, for what it is it is perfect the way it is. Why buy a zl1 to tear down and build a race car. Why not just buy a cheep car and build a drag car. Because no matter how much weight you can shave off or how much power you add, it will never be enough.

02-23-2013, 10:41 PM	#32
BAD ZL1 BAD ZL1 Drives: 2013 VIN 48 Victory Red ZL1! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 707	ayousef A five star safety rating is part of the weight rating with all the air bags and big car frame. If you want a skinny car with no safety rating, why not buy a Dubai production car...Oh wait, Dubai doesn't make a production car OHHH!!!!!