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Old 07-08-2015, 01:01 PM   #29
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I'm reading as the OP posted it, no more, no less. There's a lot of people that just want to run their mouths about noting more than garbage because they think they know so much, know what's best or know what others are really after or thinking. To those of you in the peanut gallery are you all mind readers or something?

I'm going to guess in th neighborhood of 475rwhp depending on the tuner / dyno. Simple enough for the mods quoted. That's all the OP was looking for in the original post was an estimate of what people though.
Someone understands, thanks alot for your opinion!
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:14 PM   #30
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It would give tuners at least a base to start and give me the option if I decided not to add headers.
Sure it's a base to start with. So why are tuners having so much problems with the GM head and cam package? I wouldn't think the approach to tuning GM's head and cam would be any different than some other head and cam.
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:17 PM   #31
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Let us know the results. I've been waiting to see what gains that GM cam/heads package produces.

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Old 07-08-2015, 01:35 PM   #32
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A stock 2013 Corvette Zo6 with just a good tune will dyno at right about 475 RWHP ON 93 OCTANE FUEL . With the proper cam upgrade and LG longtubes with HF cats and a good tune on 93 octane it will get you 535 RWHP easy and safe all day long .
Ok thats great. But 505bhp still doesn't equate to 475rwhp. I didn't know tuned and bolt on C6Zs still made the same bhp as untuned ones...
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:21 PM   #33
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Sure it's a base to start with. So why are tuners having so much problems with the GM head and cam package? I wouldn't think the approach to tuning GM's head and cam would be any different than some other head and cam.
I've never gotten a straight answer.
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:18 PM   #34
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If you still can, I would find a reputable shop, and stay away from gm dealers.
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Old 07-08-2015, 07:35 PM   #35
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I made 532/485 on one dyno but tune wasn't the best. Got retuned by jannetty but added a nick williams 102tb and made 502/445 it feels more powerful now and runs like stock!watch out some dyno read real high but not realistic
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Old 07-08-2015, 07:43 PM   #36
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Ok thats great. But 505bhp still doesn't equate to 475rwhp. I didn't know tuned and bolt on C6Zs still made the same bhp as untuned ones...
IN FACT A 2013 C6 Zo6 WITH A STICK AND A 93 OCTANE TUNE HAS MADE 475rwhp. I have seen it done .
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:41 PM   #37
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IN FACT A 2013 C6 WITH A STICK AND A 93 OCTANE TUNE HAS MADE 475rwhp. I have seen it done .
You're still not getting it huh.... I'll try again. I didn't know tuned cars make the same bhp as untuned cars...
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:28 PM   #38
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I will agree with the tune comment, but you folks are really about to OD on the CAI koolaid. Your current intake and your exhaust manifolds can move much more air than they do right now. Improve the flow through the engine and get a tune to add the fuel it wants and you will see a difference. The cam and heads are the biggest part of that performance improvement, not the damn CAI. Oh, that and the catch can right?
So you are telling everyone on a public forum that the stock intake and exhaust are good enough if you're adding heads and cam?
Sure, the engine will run, and heck, it'll even have more power. But it will be underwhelming. That's a fact. Period.
I saw an IMMEDIATE improvement after I installed my intake, and a HUGE improvement after I installed my headers, BEFORE I did a tune. First pull on a mustang dyno before the tune was 398rwhp/395rwtq. That is at the very least a 20/20 improvement over bone stock. But yeah, stock intake and exhaust are just fine(sarcasm).
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:51 PM   #39
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I will agree with the tune comment, but you folks are really about to OD on the CAI koolaid. Your current intake and your exhaust manifolds can move much more air than they do right now. Improve the flow through the engine and get a tune to add the fuel it wants and you will see a difference. The cam and heads are the biggest part of that performance improvement, not the damn CAI. Oh, that and the catch can right?
got news for you the catch can has its place and i will tell you if you drive this car like its meant to be the can gets a good amount of oil and keeps it out of your intake !!!
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:55 PM   #40
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I made 532/485 on one dyno but tune wasn't the best. Got retuned by jannetty but added a nick williams 102tb and made 502/445 it feels more powerful now and runs like stock!watch out some dyno read real high but not realistic
I was looking at the 102mm tb, I might use it on my setup, do you think it would work well with the ported gm heads and cam??
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:01 PM   #41
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I'm going to guess in th neighborhood of 475rwhp depending on the tuner / dyno. Simple enough for the mods quoted. That's all the OP was looking for in the original post was an estimate of what people though.
In the original post, sure. But then he compared his mods to someone else that had similar mods(in his eyes) to someone else that dynoed 527. The majority of the posts after that are just giving the OP a reality check, in that his mods are no comparison to the mods on the engine he referenced.
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Old 07-09-2015, 06:53 AM   #42
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In the original post, sure. But then he compared his mods to someone else that had similar mods(in his eyes) to someone else that dynoed 527. The majority of the posts after that are just giving the OP a reality check, in that his mods are no comparison to the mods on the engine he referenced.
I dont think you understand yet... I honestly dont see hope that you will. I wasnt claiming to make close to the power of that car. And the mods are literally idendical in the fact that they are the same parts, (heads, cam) obviously they are not specifically similar in any other way, did I once say "So i should make 527hp too" , you are just too stubborn to realize my point, Im not some idiot looking for a 150hp increase just because I saw a video, I thought most people would be smart enough to realize my point, instead of trying to look like the smart guy calling me out, understand what im trying to explain to you.
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