LS3... again

[Mythic]

The LSA has been Confirmed at 556hp/551lb-ft
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...66&postcount=1

I will place money on the LS9 not being an available engine

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Mythic

The LSA has been Confirmed at 556hp/551lb-ft
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...66&postcount=1

In the CTS-V. Just like the LS3 changes a bit from Corvette to G8, so will the LSA, if it's used.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Mythic

The LSA has been Confirmed at 556hp/551lb-ft
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...66&postcount=1

I will place money on the LS9 not being an available engine

you do realize that the LS9 and the LSA are basically the same motor with a different size charger. so saying that the new camaro will get an LS9 or an LSA will be correct, it will be a VARIANT. just like the LT1s being slightly different in the camaros/vettes (and no, im not talking about the LT4 differences), the LS1s are slightly different as well, but it is the same basic motor in each.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

In the CTS-V. Just like the LS3 changes a bit from Corvette to G8, so will the LSA, if it's used.

werd.

[Jinx]

Im thinking........

LS5.......?

6.2L with AFM and Flex fuel. Considering the talk from GM about making the brand green and fuel considerate, and the comment over the forums from disciples about GM focus on fuel economy.......this is my guess.

Reason I dont think it will be called an LS3 (but instead, a name like LS5). AFM and other important changes will land a different RPO code.

Example (AFM : non-AFM/etc)

L76 : L98

L9H : L92

?(LS5) : LS3

I think the LS5 (?) will have the same output (but rated or detuned less that the corvette) as a LS3 but still manages to make out a little better than the LS3 in the fuel drinking department. Also I believe with the flex fuel ability it can mass volume sell a V8 line in a car without putting a negative dent in the CAFE. The Escalade ditched the L98 in favor of the L9H, and I think other cars and truck will see the same trend in GM lineup. I cant see a negative impact this will have. I think it would be wise.

Ive heard on here someone say the camaro will weigh in at 3900lbs (although I think its viral internet BS because that isnt "jenny craig" and whoever claim to know that as 100% fact will prolly have the same fate has the Oshawa worker with the line photos because only someone on GM payroll is going to know that). Let's just say its true. I think with 3900lbs it will not in gas guzzler tax territory but not in a terrtory GM would want with a mass production V8 model. Im sure with Fbodfather on the forums and prolly other GM employees looking in they know the general expectation is nothing less of a LS3; so at this point I dont think the L76 or a variant is a good idea. So how does GM and its customers get to have its cake and eat it too?
Simple: Take an expected engine (LS3) and make it better for everyone.

Thats my speculation on the matter.

Plus if this thing weighs in at 3700-3800 lbs, has M6 or A6, VVT, AFM, flex fuel, and modest rear end gearing; I think its going to blow people away. And thats the impression the disciples had. Blown away.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Jinx

Ive heard on here someone say the camaro will weigh in at 3900lbs (although I think its viral internet BS because that isnt "jenny craig" and whoever claim to know that as 100% fact will prolly have the same fate has the Oshawa worker with the line photos because only someone on GM payroll is going to know that). Let's just say its true. I think with 3900lbs it will not in gas guzzler tax territory but not in a terrtory GM would want with a mass production V8 model. Im sure with Fbodfather on the forums and prolly other GM employees looking in they know the general expectation is nothing less of a LS3; so at this point I dont think the L76 or a variant is a good idea. So how does GM and its customers get to have its cake and eat it too?
Simple: Take an expected engine (LS3) and make it better for everyone.

Thats my speculation on the matter.

Plus if this thing weighs in at 3700-3800 lbs, has M6 or A6, VVT, AFM, flex fuel, and modest rear end gearing; I think its going to blow people away. And thats the impression the disciples had. Blown away.

@ all of the above, but especially the bold:

So....did you crawl into my head? I agree, even though the 3900 lb number seems realistic enough, (and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case), I just don't think it's right...

And about the LS5 stuff -- it's crossed my mind and like I said above, it wouldn't surprise me too much. Plus, it'd be cool to get our "own" engine for the car. Having said that, there's just a little kink in your logic. The L76 was an AFM-equipped truck engine (still is) long before the G8 borrowed it. Like I said; just a little kink.

[TAG UR IT]

So how does GM and its customers get to have its cake and eat it too?
Simple: Take an expected engine (LS3) and make it better for everyone.

Thats my speculation on the matter.

Plus if this thing weighs in at 3700-3800 lbs, has M6 or A6, VVT, AFM, flex fuel, and modest rear end gearing; I think its going to blow people away. And thats the impression the disciples had. Blown away.

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[Jinx]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The L76 was an AFM-equipped truck engine (still is) long before the G8 borrowed it. Like I said; just a little kink.

I know that, but the L76 is a basically the same as the aussie L98 except with AFM. The L98 is a modified version of the L76 with of some hardware relating to displacement on demand missing. Aussies use it in the 2006 Commodore VZ, I believe.

GM has all kinds of variants of basically the same engine. I not too caught into just one variant of the gen IV's 6.2Ls such as the LS3. That was the logic behind it.

I think this is a strong possibility. The G8 GXP wouldnt fit this bill in this case or seem a necessary to GM CAFE concern because of its low production numbers. It wouldnt be worth the extra rush to get a "LS5" out the door. With the Camaro, talk of engine plants cranking up, and Fbodfather's "stuff we havent seen" comment made yarens ago; I think my specualtion make more sense.

[Mythic]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

you do realize that the LS9 and the LSA are basically the same motor with a different size charger. so saying that the new camaro will get an LS9 or an LSA will be correct, it will be a VARIANT. just like the LT1s being slightly different in the camaros/vettes (and no, im not talking about the LT4 differences), the LS1s are slightly different as well, but it is the same basic motor in each.





werd.

Yes I do, I have said so myself several times. However, the LS9 becomes the LS9 from the LS3 block not just by using a larger s/c. It also has a host of forged internals, titanium components and a larger, more expensive single piece intercooler. Things the LSA doesn't

The LSA (or yes yes yes, retuned variant) is as much as we fanboys can reasonably expect to make production.