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EAkrish · 10-22-2009, 12:03 PM

guess i will go back to stock

Michael_Js · 10-22-2009, 12:24 PM

Geez... :( Out it comes, as soon as I get another gallon of antifreeze

EAkrish · 10-22-2009, 12:27 PM

I Hate that I read too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EAkrish · 10-22-2009, 12:32 PM

I have the fans set up to come on sooner, that is no problem as long as the stock tstat is in?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-22-2009, 12:43 PM

Off topic, but are you really a USMC Sniper and if you are God bless you.

EAkrish · 10-22-2009, 12:48 PM

I am one of the few Navy Corpsman to go through Scout Sniper Basic. I have been out of the military for about 2 years now, I am currently in Nursing School and a Paramedic

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-22-2009, 01:08 PM

Got some Son's of friends that did that and are nice guy, And thanks for you serves to us all, Back on topic, You did the right thing with going back to a stock Thermostat.

NEGXXIS · 11-01-2010, 09:29 AM

Thanks guys I just found this thread.
I was going to install my second coolant temp sensor in 2 weeks till I read this. Time to break out my HP Tuners software

Then put my stock thermostat back in when I do my cam swap in a couple of months.

Slowhawk · 11-01-2010, 10:13 AM

160 t-stat bad for the motor - complete BS. Car runs about 176-180 with a 160 stat. Completely fine for these aluminum motor's.

If there was an issue I would have 100's of bad motors coming in from putting 160 stats in there cars 8-10 years ago.

tarheel34 · 11-01-2010, 10:49 AM

I've had my 160* T-Stat in my car for about 2 months and the car runs between 182* and 192* normally and gets as high as 210* when idling. I haven't had 1 problem since installing it...

MarylandSpeed · 11-01-2010, 11:18 AM

We have sold literally thousands 160 T-stats for LSX motors..and I run them in my own cars. If you have issues, make sure you have all the air out the system.

POWERFREAK · 11-01-2010, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

If you have issues, make sure you have all the air out the system.

...make sure you purged all the air out of the system after the t-stat install...this can cause all sorts of problems.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-01-2010, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowhawk

160 t-stat bad for the motor - complete BS. Car runs about 176-180 with a 160 stat. Completely fine for these aluminum motor's.

If there was an issue I would have 100's of bad motors coming in from putting 160 stats in there cars 8-10 years ago.

Your entitled to your opinion, and I respect that but here are a few facts to chew on.

Combustion temps have a direct affect on power Production, a cold combustion chamber does not burn correctly and hinders performance and fuel economy

Most all of the engine wear occurs on Warm up, the longer it takes to warm up the more the wear.

The longer an engine takes to warm up the more gas it burns.

It also takes longer for the LT fuel Trims to come on line or go into closed loop.

Engine Oil Temp Follows Water Temp, and needs to be at operating temp to work properly 210 is desirable.

Making an engine run cold so you can get a couple more degrees of timing in on the dyno will just be pulled on the street.

The engine Block Main Bearing Clearances are Very Tight on a cold engine and open up to normal at 195 degrees.

With Proper fan settings we have no problem keeping water temps at 195 with the stock 192 stat.

We have seen 2 RWHP gain at 195 vs 185 water temps so where is the advantage?

I am all Ears.

Ted.

Slowhawk · 11-01-2010, 12:28 PM

Opinions is what makes the internet fun.

Engine still warms up quickly with the lower temp stat because it's closed.
The above controls the fuel trims- if tuned properly this wouldn't matter but most people live off them.
GM does run the 192 t-stat for emissions, hotter the engine,cleaner it burns.
Oil temp does follow and heat exchanger tries to maintain it.Temp with the t-stat still hit's the range which will dictate the lower end engine temp -ie bearings ect.
BUT- why does GM run a big cooler on the Z06's? Most Z06's will run oil temp in the 140's all the time... HMMMM

For power, the 160 t-stat will cool the motor quicker than the 192 because it opens earlier. You see this very good while aggressive driving or more in a road race situation.The dyno could bring it out too.My car hit 240 degree's when stock,now it goes to 210 on full load pulls.From our testing the cars do make more hp/tq doing a pull at 185 degree's than 205 degree's.

Discuss.

10-22-2009, 12:03 PM	#29
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10-22-2009, 12:24 PM	#30
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	Geez... :( Out it comes, as soon as I get another gallon of antifreeze __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

10-22-2009, 12:27 PM	#31
EAkrish Scout Sniping Drives: 2010 Ford F150 Lariat SuperCrew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 762	I Hate that I read too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Eric Previous Car:1SS/CGM 6MT w/ Sunroof & FACTORY BLUETOOTH!!!: New Era OTR, Steeda Short Shifter, Ported TB, Stg 2 ported intake manifold, Fasterproms, Poor man down pipes, MBRP 3" Exhaust!!! Now I drive a F150 Supercrew

10-22-2009, 12:32 PM	#32
EAkrish Scout Sniping Drives: 2010 Ford F150 Lariat SuperCrew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 762	I have the fans set up to come on sooner, that is no problem as long as the stock tstat is in? __________________ Eric Previous Car:1SS/CGM 6MT w/ Sunroof & FACTORY BLUETOOTH!!!: New Era OTR, Steeda Short Shifter, Ported TB, Stg 2 ported intake manifold, Fasterproms, Poor man down pipes, MBRP 3" Exhaust!!! Now I drive a F150 Supercrew

10-22-2009, 12:48 PM	#34
EAkrish Scout Sniping Drives: 2010 Ford F150 Lariat SuperCrew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 762	I am one of the few Navy Corpsman to go through Scout Sniper Basic. I have been out of the military for about 2 years now, I am currently in Nursing School and a Paramedic __________________ Eric Previous Car:1SS/CGM 6MT w/ Sunroof & FACTORY BLUETOOTH!!!: New Era OTR, Steeda Short Shifter, Ported TB, Stg 2 ported intake manifold, Fasterproms, Poor man down pipes, MBRP 3" Exhaust!!! Now I drive a F150 Supercrew

10-22-2009, 12:43 PM	#33
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,728 View My Garage	Off topic, but are you really a USMC Sniper and if you are God bless you.

10-22-2009, 01:08 PM	#35
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,728 View My Garage	Got some Son's of friends that did that and are nice guy, And thanks for you serves to us all, Back on topic, You did the right thing with going back to a stock Thermostat.

11-01-2010, 09:29 AM	#36
NEGXXIS Drives: 2019 Camaro SS A10 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 1,062 View My Garage	Thanks guys I just found this thread. I was going to install my second coolant temp sensor in 2 weeks till I read this. Time to break out my HP Tuners software Then put my stock thermostat back in when I do my cam swap in a couple of months. __________________ 2020 Range Rover Sport HSE P525 Supercharged 5.0 - Firenze Red - 9012 wheels SOLD 2019 Camaro SS -Wrapped in Matte Magnectic Black - Anderson Carbon Hood and Rear Spoiler – Ikon front spoiler – OEM ZL1 Side Rockers - ZL1 Addons Diffuser - BMR 1.0” Lowering Springs - MRR 228 Wheels 20x10 and 20x11 RIP 2016 Camaro SS https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=565453 SOLD 2010 Camaro SS Featured in GM High Tech Performance and Camaro Now Magazines - http://www.superchevy.com/features/g...of-perfection/

11-01-2010, 10:13 AM	#37
Slowhawk Drives: 1999 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgewater,Ma Posts: 2,018	160 t-stat bad for the motor - complete BS. Car runs about 176-180 with a 160 stat. Completely fine for these aluminum motor's. If there was an issue I would have 100's of bad motors coming in from putting 160 stats in there cars 8-10 years ago.

11-01-2010, 10:49 AM	#38
tarheel34 Go Heels!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: WV Posts: 241	I've had my 160* T-Stat in my car for about 2 months and the car runs between 182* and 192* normally and gets as high as 210* when idling. I haven't had 1 problem since installing it... __________________ Team L99 2010 Summit White 2SS/RS L99: TSP 1 7/8 LTs - Off-Road Pipes \| Tuned By BLUECAT \| CAI Cold Air Intake \| ADM Race Scoop \| SLP UD Pulley \| VMAX Throttle Body \| Magnaflow X-Pipe \| Muffler Delete \| SLP 160* T-Stat \| MSD Wires

11-01-2010, 11:18 AM	#39
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	We have sold literally thousands 160 T-stats for LSX motors..and I run them in my own cars. If you have issues, make sure you have all the air out the system.

11-01-2010, 12:28 PM	#42
Slowhawk Drives: 1999 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgewater,Ma Posts: 2,018	Opinions is what makes the internet fun. Engine still warms up quickly with the lower temp stat because it's closed. The above controls the fuel trims- if tuned properly this wouldn't matter but most people live off them. GM does run the 192 t-stat for emissions, hotter the engine,cleaner it burns. Oil temp does follow and heat exchanger tries to maintain it.Temp with the t-stat still hit's the range which will dictate the lower end engine temp -ie bearings ect. BUT- why does GM run a big cooler on the Z06's? Most Z06's will run oil temp in the 140's all the time... HMMMM For power, the 160 t-stat will cool the motor quicker than the 192 because it opens earlier. You see this very good while aggressive driving or more in a road race situation.The dyno could bring it out too.My car hit 240 degree's when stock,now it goes to 210 on full load pulls.From our testing the cars do make more hp/tq doing a pull at 185 degree's than 205 degree's. Discuss.

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