dream Z28

[MikesZ]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Ohhh he will be back.... lol

He wouldn't try to induce psychosis by suggesting that TTV6 again!!!!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Yeah.... we have pretty much beat the crap out of that poor horse and we got a loooooooooong way to go.......

Funny you mention that.... The V6 turbo vs V8 thing for the Z was debated well before the Camaro SS even came out....so...yeah, that's old....everything else? Not so much!

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

So whats your Z dream Dragoneye?

Oh, I thought you'd never ask.... to follow......

Originally Posted by MikesZ

Where is he?

I had to go potty....got a problem with that?

[MikesZ]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Funny you mention that.... The V6 turbo vs V8 thing for the Z was debated well before the Camaro SS even came out....so...yeah, that's old....everything else? Not so much!


Oh, I thought you'd never ask.... to follow......


I had to go potty....got a problem with that?

Had a feeling...

[Milk 1027]

well it depends when you want the Z28?



next year? or 2013?

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by MikesZ

He wouldn't try to induce psychosis by suggesting that TTV6 again!!!!

I already posted it in this thread. For traditionalists who can't just on the bandwagon of a TTV6, there's the argument that it fits with Z28 history of a low-displacement, high-performance engine. A TTV6 would be a great competitor for EcoBoost and would produce green performance numbers. I hope GM designs such a system for a few cars.

[MikesZ]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I already posted it in this thread. For traditionalists who can't just on the bandwagon of a TTV6, there's the argument that it fits with Z28 history of a low-displacement, high-performance engine. A TTV6 would be a great competitor for EcoBoost and would produce green performance numbers. I hope GM designs such a system for a few cars.

Sure, just not for the 5th Gen Z-28.

[Mr. Wyndham]

My Z Dream...

I once said that I'm not an engineer, and so I would like to lay out goals, and let the guys who know what they're doing get there.....yeah, well -- suspend that for a little bit.

I'd like the Z28 to:

-Look identical to Leno's car...every vent, light, and body line.
-Have an interior identical to Leno's car, suede/leather except I think they should replace the gunmetal facias with something more shiny, and high-class.
-Include MSRC (Magnetic shocks), and be tuned to ZR1 levels, so it can sustain +1G of lat. accel.
-Skinny-spoke wheels(like Leno's car), but keep them at 20", only because less than this starts to look small in the wheel-wells, imo
-Wide tires (305s in the back, 275-285s up front...or 305s up front...)
-Keep the stock brakes, but upgrade the rotors, and paint the calipers blue, or red
-Have an all-aluminum frame/body...to reduce the weight to roughly 3600lbs.
-Include a ~6L DI V8 with VVT, and E85 capability (~500hp, 27mpg hwy)
-Be offered in an automatic transmission, sans AFM (not because I don't like the system...just because.)
-Include HUD, memory seats, and all the standard features currently in the 2SS
-Offer Recaro seats upgrade
-Cost around $45-$48k MSRP.

This would result in a car with a p/w ratio greater than the CTS-V....

.......

[Number 3]

Boxmonkeyracing, I swear I was the second post on your thread.

I had inquired as to whether you had to have DI or if just meeting the HP and Torque numbers would be ok for you.

And here is my Z wish list. And believe me it is MY wish list. There are no hints or hidden items.

Start with a 2SS

Add the following from the Z06

LS7
Transmission
Brakes

Then

Lower the suspension 1"
20 Inch BBS Wheels
Body kit and rear fascia from the Leno car
Carbon Fiber hood styled the same as the Leno car
LED Fog lamps from the Leno car
Afterburner taillamps from the show car
Recaro seats

I think that's it.

[MikesZ]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

My Z Dream...

I once said that I'm not an engineer, and so I would like to lay out goals, and let the guys who know what they're doing get there.....yeah, well -- suspend that for a little bit.

I'd like the Z28 to:

-Look identical to Leno's car...every vent, light, and body line.
-Have an interior identical to Leno's car, suede/leather except I think they should replace the gunmetal facias with something more shiny, and high-class.
-Include MSRC (Magnetic shocks), and be tuned to ZR1 levels, so it can sustain +1G of lat. accel.
-Skinny-spoke wheels(like Leno's car), but keep them at 20", only because less than this starts to look small in the wheel-wells, imo
-Wide tires (305s in the back, 275-285s up front...or 305s up front...)
-Keep the stock brakes, but upgrade the rotors, and paint the calipers blue, or red
-Have an all-aluminum frame/body...to reduce the weight to roughly 3600lbs.
-Include a ~6L DI V8 with VVT, and E85 capability (~500hp, 27mpg hwy)
-Be offered in an automatic transmission, sans AFM (not because I don't like the system...just because.)
-Include HUD, memory seats, and all the standard features currently in the 2SS
-Offer Recaro seats upgrade
-Cost around $45-$48k MSRP.

This would result in a car with a p/w ratio greater than the CTS-V....

.......

The aluminum frame/body would be too costly at this point, but it would help with weight.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Boxmonkeyracing, I swear I was the second post on your thread.

I had inquired as to whether you had to have DI or if just meeting the HP and Torque numbers would be ok for you.

And here is my Z wish list. And believe me it is MY wish list. There are no hints or hidden items.

Start with a 2SS

Add the following from the Z06

LS7
Transmission
Brakes

Then

Lower the suspension 1"
20 Inch BBS Wheels
Body kit and rear fascia from the Leno car
Carbon Fiber hood styled the same as the Leno car
LED Fog lamps from the Leno car
Afterburner taillamps from the show car
Recaro seats

I think that's it.

I missed that or something.

I really want DI in the engine but depending on the numbers and aftermarket performance possibilities I'd take a different setup.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by MikesZ

The aluminum frame/body would be too costly at this point, but it would help with weight.

Not necessarily...it would have to be balanced against other options...........

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

My Z Dream...

I once said that I'm not an engineer, and so I would like to lay out goals, and let the guys who know what they're doing get there.....yeah, well -- suspend that for a little bit.

I'd like the Z28 to:

-Look identical to Leno's car...every vent, light, and body line.
-Have an interior identical to Leno's car, suede/leather except I think they should replace the gunmetal facias with something more shiny, and high-class.
-Include MSRC (Magnetic shocks), and be tuned to ZR1 levels, so it can sustain +1G of lat. accel.
-Skinny-spoke wheels(like Leno's car), but keep them at 20", only because less than this starts to look small in the wheel-wells, imo
-Wide tires (305s in the back, 275-285s up front...or 305s up front...)
-Keep the stock brakes, but upgrade the rotors, and paint the calipers blue, or red
-Have an all-aluminum frame/body...to reduce the weight to roughly 3600lbs.
-Include a ~6L DI V8 with VVT, and E85 capability (~500hp, 27mpg hwy)
-Be offered in an automatic transmission, sans AFM (not because I don't like the system...just because.)
-Include HUD, memory seats, and all the standard features currently in the 2SS
-Offer Recaro seats upgrade
-Cost around $45-$48k MSRP.

This would result in a car with a p/w ratio greater than the CTS-V....

.......

It's a good plan, Dragoneye. But the aluminum body would be $$$$. Close to 5 or 6 Grand, just guessing.

And MR shocks are 2,000 on a Corvette, so you could be in the ball park other than the lower weight.

[MikesZ]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Not necessarily...it would have to be balanced against other options...........

Still...Audi has been playing with it and got an A5 down to under 3000 pounds. I wonder about structural integrity though...body twist and all.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Number 3

It's a good plan, Dragoneye. But the aluminum body would be $$$$. Close to 5 or 6 Grand, just guessing.

And MR shocks are 2,000 on a Corvette, so you could be in the ball park other than the lower weight.

You underestimate just how in-depth I thought about this.... PM me if you want to see the whole thing....

Originally Posted by MikesZ

Still...Audi has been playing with it and got an A5 down to under 3000 pounds. I wonder about structural integrity though...body twist and all.

The Camaro is the most structurally sound vehicle GM has ever built...with some added material/bracing in certain places, they can maintain integrity.