Performance upgrades to LS3 / SS option

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Rock36

IRS is severly prone to wheel hop out of the hole, just the nature/compromise of the design. Furthermore, that is generally the problem with the LS2 GTO, and why it is difficult (generally speaking) to crack 12s bone stock.

The engineers on the Camaro say that they've eliminated the wheel-hop issue via assymetric half-shafts...further, the Corvette doesn't wheel hop (at least I've never heard of it being an issue).

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

I don't mean to offend, but you are really talking out of your ass. Have you heard of the Charger? People are making insane power with them and the only rear end modification they make are stronger half-shafts, that's it.

I think what Robert is really trying to say is that people who have purpose built drag cars will often switch to a solid axle. But I will let him speak for himself.

You are right though, IRS can be built to handle the power.

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The engineers on the Camaro say that they've eliminated the wheel-hop issue via assymetric half-shafts...further, the Corvette doesn't wheel hop (at least I've never heard of it being an issue).

Wheel hop can always be an issue technically, it will never just go away. Hard launches can and will do that time to time. So I don't see it being eliminated completely. But I am glad they addressed it or at least mitgated it somewhat in the design.

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by Rock36

I think what Robert is really trying to say is that people who have purpose built drag cars will often switch to a solid axle. But I will let him speak for himself.

You are right though, IRS can be built to handle the power.

Oh yes I completely agree with you, but no one on this forum seems to be interested with over 1000hp...and if they are- they wouldn't be consulting with us. Times have changed- this is the era of the IRS

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Oh yes I completely agree with you, but no one on this forum seems to be interested with over 1000hp...and if they are- they wouldn't be consulting with us. Times have changed- this is the era of the IRS

1000hp sounds low. . .think the 4th gen will get 1500 horses after the new camaro is out. . .lol

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

1000hp sounds low. . .think the 4th gen will get 1500 horses after the new camaro is out. . .lol

That sounds like a nice project you will have for your 4th gen in that case- have fun fabricating a cage, swapping the rear end, gettign a custom driveshaft, transmission, fully forged/ported/tuned engine, some forced induction, pulling out the carpet and all the deadening material, and welding in structural supports, and then making sure it checks out with your local tracks safety standards...yeah sounds...fun..and cheap even

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by camaro9899

hey their all you camaro lovers. Quick question for you. I will be the proud owner of a black ss once they arrive, however I'm not very familiar with the LS3 engine. Other than what I'm reading about in the vette. My question is what upgrates or power increases are their currently for the LS3 motor.
Thanks:

just about anything you can imagine! there is a whole world of options (aftermarket) that you can do. as far as the factory hp upgrades, i dont know what they plan on doing to the car other than the cold air intake and different muffler set up.

[Robert91RS]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

I don't mean to offend, but you are really talking out of your ass- the car isn't even out yet. Have you heard of the Charger? People are making insane power with them and the only rear end modification they make are stronger half-shafts, that's it.

No offence taken, i think. Anywho, go to the G8 forums. You will see what I am talking about. Not making things up.

know quite a few people that drag their vettes. . .

True. But this is no corvette rear end. You know what I ment.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

That sounds like a nice project you will have for your 4th gen in that case- have fun fabricating a cage, swapping the rear end, gettign a custom driveshaft, transmission, fully forged/ported/tuned engine, some forced induction, pulling out the carpet and all the deadening material, and welding in structural supports, and then making sure it checks out with your local tracks safety standards...yeah sounds...fun..and cheap even

lol. well lets see. the engine is already out, the interior is being torn apart now, the tranny is gone, rear end is just chillin til I can get a built on. . .etc etc. I fully expect 24k for engine, tranny, rearend, suspension, cage, and then an extra 5-10k for stuff I forgot. that's just parts not install and tune. I know it's not cheap if done right.

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by Robert91RS

No offence taken, i think. Anywho, go to the G8 forums. You will see what I am talking about. Not making things up.

Sorry, I was at a loss of words for saying "you were making things up"...But I seriously doubt EVERYTHING from this car will be exact to the G8. I could be wrong, but the upgrade for the charger was a simple halfshaft upgrade. The g8 is still in its performance infancy so I think more and simpler upgrades will achieve greater results in the near future.

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

lol. well lets see. the engine is already out, the interior is being torn apart now, the tranny is gone, rear end is just chillin til I can get a built on. . .etc etc. I fully expect 24k for engine, tranny, rearend, suspension, cage, and then an extra 5-10k for stuff I forgot. that's just parts not install and tune. I know it's not cheap if done right.

That sounds like fun for sure. I will love to have a car like that eventually. One that gives you whiplash from just lightly stepping on the accelerator. Lol...I mean it!

[Robert91RS]

I agree, many things will be different from the G8. But based on the pics of the suspension we have so far, the rear is identical. I appreciate your appolagy. Thank you.

[Emher]

I'll pop in whatever gives me more horsepower, BUT I won't put in a turbo or supercharger. I just don't like the difference in sound it makes.

[Mindz]

Turbo spool doesn't change the sound of the engine and will more than likely get drowned out by the engine noise.

[GXPMAN]

Originally Posted by Robert91RS

I agree, many things will be different from the G8. But based on the pics of the suspension we have so far, the rear is identical. I appreciate your appolagy. Thank you.

The main thing that was giving out on the GTO's was the 1/2 shafts, before the rear end alot of that from wheel hop.. Some guys got pedders bushings and the harrop Dif cover to combat the wheel hop... Other more serious guys got whole new rearends..

But I would still think the rear end would be good to 500 rwhp... If your tires arent overly sticky.