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Old 09-04-2008, 04:00 PM   #29
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See, that's how I justified an LSA-Z28 in the first place. That carbon fiber and aluminim suspension cradles and forged control arms are not going to be cheap, and especially for a limited production car. I personally don't think the benefit of those parts is going to amount to a gain as much as just adding power and keeping additional weight smart. It already has an aluminum hood so I don't think there's going to be too much savings there, although it all adds up. I agree with you though, Dan. However, removing weight, as expensive as it would likely be, could actually improve mileage, LOL!
Yeah but by the time you are talking about a 550hp car I doubt mileage is one of your major concerns, or even in the top ten.......
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That's one thing I don't get. Why do people think the SS moniker is "watered down" when the Z badge has been watered down just as much - if not more. The Z06 and ZR1 are great performers, but what about the Z34 Lumina, Z26 Beretta, Z71 trucks, even the IROC-Z of the late 80s and Z28s of the 70s/80s were poor performers. Not sure why everyone always jumps on the "SS is watered down" bandwagon all the time when the Z has been watered down just as much.
Not "Zxx", "Z28", there IS a difference.

And even the Z badge in general...I wouldn't call it watered down - it serves a wide purpose. I don't think the SS badge is "watered down" either. A better description, and probably the issue most people take with SS, is that it was disgraced when they plastered "SS" on a car like the Malibu SS of two years ago.....
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^There was a Malibu SS, thats stupid!

This is what the title should be?

If Your SUPERCHARGED 'Z28' is dead; What then...

Since I don't know what plan A was, and neither does the rest of you, I can't comment on what I would do next, because I don't know what Plan B is For our Z28. Maybe they have already lightned it, maybe they scrapped an LS9 for an LS3 w/supercharger, maybe they were going to put a genV motor in it, maybe they are switching to a fusion reactor, I just don't know.

Which is why I am going to keep the faith and accept the fact that the RS and the SS is all we are going to have for a while. I only have enough money for a six cylinder anyways. And thats my financial situation now, which is getting worse because its hard finding a good job in this shitty economy we are in right now. Just wait and see what GM will give us, Someday the Z28 will come back to us. You can't kill a heritage as strong as the Z28. I'm Just waiting GM
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:04 PM   #32
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That's one thing I don't get. Why do people think the SS moniker is "watered down" when the Z badge has been watered down just as much - if not more. The Z06 and ZR1 are great performers, but what about the Z34 Lumina, Z26 Beretta, Z71 trucks, even the IROC-Z of the late 80s and Z28s of the 70s/80s were poor performers. Not sure why everyone always jumps on the "SS is watered down" bandwagon all the time when the Z has been watered down just as much.
Umm... there is only one Z28. To compare Z28 to those you cited (except the IROC) is not even logical, IMVHO. I'm not sure if this part of the thread came from what was deleted a bit ago, but I'm not sure who stated they thought the SS is watered down. I certainly don't. I can say that I have a car now that is at least as fast as the SS is going to be so I'd like to trade-up (well, in terms of performance. Shoot, this car is going to be in a different league compared to my '02, LOL.)

Please stay on topic.
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Not "Zxx", "Z28", there IS a difference.

And even the Z badge in general...I wouldn't call it watered down - it serves a wide purpose. I don't think the SS badge is "watered down" either. A better description, and probably the issue most people take with SS, is that it was disgraced when they plastered "SS" on a car like the Malibu SS of two years ago.....
thanks dragon. by watered down I'd actually should be saying disgraced.


Z28=camaro
z71= silverado
ZR1= one bad mo fo corvette
z06 = bad ass corvette
z51 = good corvette


each one of those you know just by hearing it's name what it's reffering to.

but where as you say SS it could be anything.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:06 PM   #34
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That's one thing I don't get. Why do people think the SS moniker is "watered down" when the Z badge has been watered down just as much - if not more. The Z06 and ZR1 are great performers, but what about the Z34 Lumina, Z26 Beretta, Z71 trucks, even the IROC-Z of the late 80s and Z28s of the 70s/80s were poor performers. Not sure why everyone always jumps on the "SS is watered down" bandwagon all the time when the Z has been watered down just as much.
Hey I liked my IROC-Z:( I'm Insulted (It never got beat by any mustang, at anytime)
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cam, headers, cats, pulley & a tune (500rwhp)
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supercharger, headers, cats (550+rwhp)
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turbo, headers, cats (550+ rwhp)

decisions, decisions....
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:09 PM   #36
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Yeah but by the time you are talking about a 550hp car I doubt mileage is one of your major concerns, or even in the top ten.......
You are correct, in my case. This won't be a DD, just a weekend track car.

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^There was a Malibu SS, thats stupid!

This is what the title should be?

If Your SUPERCHARGED 'Z28' is dead; What then...

Since I don't know what plan A was, and neither does the rest of you, I can't comment on what I would do next, because I don't know what Plan B is For our Z28. Maybe they have already lightned it, maybe they scrapped an LS9 for an LS3 w/supercharger, maybe they were going to put a genV motor in it, maybe they are switching to a fusion reactor, I just don't know.

Which is why I am going to keep the faith and accept the fact that the RS and the SS is all we are going to have for a while. I only have enough money for a six cylinder anyways. And thats my financial situation now, which is getting worse because its hard finding a good job in this shitty economy we are in right now. Just wait and see what GM will give us, Someday the Z28 will come back to us. You can't kill a heritage as strong as the Z28. I'm Just waiting GM
Fair enough, however, that's why I established parameters in my original post. Do you have any input on what you'd be looking for, regardless of finances, and assuming you were interested in the first place?
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:13 PM   #37
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In response to your original question, I will be looking to GMPP for a 100% complete blower kit. Maybe with different options: 1900-500hp, 2300-550, 2300 small pulley-600+hp. Including the ecu, belt, brackets, and maybe emblems? 50 state legal of coarse.

Oh, and most importantly........AFFORDABLE!!!! No more expensive just because it says "GM"
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thanks dragon. by watered down I'd actually should be saying disgraced.


Z28=camaro
z71= silverado
ZR1= one bad mo fo corvette
z06 = bad ass corvette
z51 = good corvette


each one of those you know just by hearing it's name what it's reffering to.

but where as you say SS it could be anything.
I don't recall reading this recently, or even at all, but most of the time, ZXX option codes were usually reserved for suspension options. Z71 - off-road; ZR1 - I got nothin', LOL! I gotta' look up a ZR1 from the 70s (I know there was a ZR-2 but can't remember ZR-1 Z06 - I don't have to say anything; Z51 - better gearing, tires, brakes, etc. When I was at the dealer, we had RPO code books, and when you went to the Z-section, there were mostly related to suspension options.

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Hey I liked my IROC-Z:( I'm Insulted (It never got beat by any mustang, at anytime)
Weren't 5.0s known, back in the day, to be on average, quicker? Having asked that, I want to follow up with saying that I'm glad you didn't let those ponies get the better of ya'
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Not "Zxx", "Z28", there IS a difference.

And even the Z badge in general...I wouldn't call it watered down - it serves a wide purpose. I don't think the SS badge is "watered down" either. A better description, and probably the issue most people take with SS, is that it was disgraced when they plastered "SS" on a car like the Malibu SS of two years ago.....
I know the Z28 is technically different because it only pertains to the Camaro, but it still shares the "Z" which is supposed to stand for performance.

And don't knock the Malibu SS too much! Those ran low 15s which is on par or better than a lot of the old Z28s and IROC-Zs, and on par with the '96 Impala SS that everyone still raves about. Sure it's FWD, but they ran pretty good for a small econo-car that got high 20s gas mileage.
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Hey I liked my IROC-Z:( I'm Insulted (It never got beat by any mustang, at anytime)
Sorry. Didn't mean to insult you. I liked the IROCs for their handling and they looked good, they just didn't do anything for me straight line performance wise. (stock)
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:23 PM   #41
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[QUOTE=radz282003;124922]Well, what if you could get warranty taken care of by going with GMPP parts. I mean I know TRD parts (superchargers specifically) didn't void warranties on my buddies truck and he had it installed at the dealer and even got a little extension on his original warranty. There's still the SS too. We don't know what she'll do yet, but my expectations are high. DON'T GO YET!!!

Im not leaving yet,but will not purchase unless there is a super Camaro or there is a hypo pkg.available upon release.I feel I just lost my best friend.Maybe GMPP will have a pkg.that will please a hp junky.
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ah gotcha, sorry reading multiple threads on diff.message boards

Lighten the car, and put a hot cam in it, or give me any type of engine that will get us into the 25 +or- 500 range w/out superchargers that will make me a very happy GM fan right here. Someday I will get one, slap a supercharger on it and decimate all.

lol, Hotcivic, your alright, I was just kiddin, my car was on steroids compared to a stock one, I can talk all I want but it wasn't that fast when we first got it.
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