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*GTAHVIT* · 03-18-2010, 12:48 PM

For those that my not see a reason to add performance suspension components to a DD car that won't see the track much, here's something to think about.

In my opinion suspension and brakes are the most over looked components in any car. Sure you can instantly "feel" the power of a supercharger or engine mod. But don't make the mistake of thinking you can't feel the same measure of performance increase with suspension and braking mods also. Where as power mods may make your car more "fun", it can also make it more dangerous if you don't respect that power. However, suspension and brakes will always make the car perform better and make it safer to drive as you have more control over the car then you do on a stock car.

Not to say the Camaro isn't safe or fun in stock trim... Just that there is a tangible safety and control benefit to upgraded suspension and brakes in addition to the fun factor.

FWIW.

PfadtRacing · 03-22-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

For those that my not see a reason to add performance suspension components to a DD car that won't see the track much, here's something to think about.

In my opinion suspension and brakes are the most over looked components in any car. Sure you can instantly "feel" the power of a supercharger or engine mod. But don't make the mistake of thinking you can't feel the same measure of performance increase with suspension and braking mods also. Where as power mods may make your car more "fun", it can also make it more dangerous if you don't respect that power. However, suspension and brakes will always make the car perform better and make it safer to drive as you have more control over the car then you do on a stock car.

Not to say the Camaro isn't safe or fun in stock trim... Just that there is a tangible safety and control benefit to upgraded suspension and brakes in addition to the fun factor.

FWIW.

Excellent point.

FrankT · 03-22-2010, 05:24 PM

I'm in the process of installing mine now. Aaron's instructions (included with the parts OR download in color from his website) are right on. I'm about halfway done with no problems so far. The only thing I have done differently from the instructions was make a reference mark on the driveshaft and coupling so I can put it back in the same place.

FrankT · 03-22-2010, 06:58 PM

Got the bushings installed in the cradle, while it's out I've got a few other things to install. I can't wait to see how it drives with these bushings! Thanks Aaron for another great product!!!

PfadtRacing · 03-23-2010, 11:08 AM

FrankT, this is great stuff. Please let us know your impressions as you get them back on in the car and on the road! Thanks!

PfadtRacing · 03-29-2010, 12:51 PM

FrankT, any updates?

13 ZL1 · 05-08-2011, 11:11 PM

It looks like there is still a small amount of movement with these bushings. Is there any concern for wear of the aluminum over time?

IBM/2SS/RS/LS3 · 05-08-2011, 11:43 PM

I didn't see any movement..

I like these instructions a lot better than the other ones!!

13 ZL1 · 05-09-2011, 11:21 AM

I am looking at 00:24 to 00:35 in the video. It could be that the lighting changes and it appears as movement. Even if it did not move, I think the question is still valid. Will vibration or repeated loading and unloading on the aluminum cause wear on the bushings that will require them to need replacing in the future?

PfadtRacing · 05-25-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Orange2SSRS

I am looking at 00:24 to 00:35 in the video. It could be that the lighting changes and it appears as movement. Even if it did not move, I think the question is still valid. Will vibration or repeated loading and unloading on the aluminum cause wear on the bushings that will require them to need replacing in the future?

That's the lighting in the video shifting around, the mounts allow no movement and require a slight press for a solid connection to the subframe. They are manufactured from 6061-T6 aluminum then anodized orange... as there isn't any movement in the rear subframe there wont be any degradation of performance over time. 6061 aluminum is way more than sufficient to last the lifetime of the vehicle!

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Jarrett

camaro34 · 05-25-2011, 07:40 PM

Is it a pain to remove the factory bushings? I did the diff bushing and i had a he!! of a time getting the stock ones out.

PfadtRacing · 05-27-2011, 04:01 PM

It is certainly a procedure that goes faster with a lift and all of the proper tools. It is not difficult, but it can be more time consuming if you are doing it in your driveway. Take a look at the install instructions here:

http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...stallation.pdf

03-18-2010, 12:48 PM	#29
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	For those that my not see a reason to add performance suspension components to a DD car that won't see the track much, here's something to think about. In my opinion suspension and brakes are the most over looked components in any car. Sure you can instantly "feel" the power of a supercharger or engine mod. But don't make the mistake of thinking you can't feel the same measure of performance increase with suspension and braking mods also. Where as power mods may make your car more "fun", it can also make it more dangerous if you don't respect that power. However, suspension and brakes will always make the car perform better and make it safer to drive as you have more control over the car then you do on a stock car. Not to say the Camaro isn't safe or fun in stock trim... Just that there is a tangible safety and control benefit to upgraded suspension and brakes in addition to the fun factor. FWIW. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

03-22-2010, 05:24 PM	#31
FrankT 400HP used to be enough.. Drives: 2010 2SS rs manual Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central NC Posts: 772	I'm in the process of installing mine now. Aaron's instructions (included with the parts OR download in color from his website) are right on. I'm about halfway done with no problems so far. The only thing I have done differently from the instructions was make a reference mark on the driveshaft and coupling so I can put it back in the same place. __________________ Build thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47925

03-22-2010, 06:58 PM	#32
FrankT 400HP used to be enough.. Drives: 2010 2SS rs manual Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central NC Posts: 772	Got the bushings installed in the cradle, while it's out I've got a few other things to install. I can't wait to see how it drives with these bushings! Thanks Aaron for another great product!!! Attached Images __________________ Build thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47925

05-08-2011, 11:43 PM	#36
IBM/2SS/RS/LS3 NorCal Camaro➎ Member Drives: Bowties ONLY!! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nor☆Cal Posts: 1,767 View My Garage	I didn't see any movement.. I like these instructions a lot better than the other ones!! __________________

03-23-2010, 11:08 AM	#33
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	FrankT, this is great stuff. Please let us know your impressions as you get them back on in the car and on the road! Thanks!

03-29-2010, 12:51 PM	#34
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	FrankT, any updates?

05-08-2011, 11:11 PM	#35
13 ZL1 Drives: 2013 IOM ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Manteca CA Posts: 683	It looks like there is still a small amount of movement with these bushings. Is there any concern for wear of the aluminum over time?

05-09-2011, 11:21 AM	#37
13 ZL1 Drives: 2013 IOM ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Manteca CA Posts: 683	I am looking at 00:24 to 00:35 in the video. It could be that the lighting changes and it appears as movement. Even if it did not move, I think the question is still valid. Will vibration or repeated loading and unloading on the aluminum cause wear on the bushings that will require them to need replacing in the future?

05-25-2011, 07:40 PM	#39
camaro34 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boynton Beach FL Posts: 124	Is it a pain to remove the factory bushings? I did the diff bushing and i had a he!! of a time getting the stock ones out.

05-27-2011, 04:01 PM	#40
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	It is certainly a procedure that goes faster with a lift and all of the proper tools. It is not difficult, but it can be more time consuming if you are doing it in your driveway. Take a look at the install instructions here: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...stallation.pdf