Can bolt-ons assure a quicker car than a 2011 mustang?

[hollywoodGU]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Same playing field to me. They are both mustangs(meaning the GT and the GT500). I don't know why everyone keeps saying that. And don't say cost because everyone uses the srt8 to compare to the camaro and it cost about 10grand more than the SS. the zr1 beats cars that cost three and four times what it cost but yet its compaired to them all the time. All I'm saying is for me it means nothing to beat a GT mustang because it's not the top model. I'm modding my camaro in hopes to beat most GT500's. Then again my buddy is a ford nut and he aways throws up the GT500 to me so I have something to prove.

I would rather have a V6 camaro that can outrun the GT500. Think about how embarassing that would be. Just gotta get a setup like JLeno haah

[speedster]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Same playing field to me. They are both mustangs(meaning the GT and the GT500). I don't know why everyone keeps saying that. And don't say cost because everyone uses the srt8 to compare to the camaro and it cost about 10grand more than the SS. the zr1 beats cars that cost three and four times what it cost but yet its compaired to them all the time. All I'm saying is for me it means nothing to beat a GT mustang because it's not the top model. I'm modding my camaro in hopes to beat most GT500's. Then again my buddy is a ford nut and he aways throws up the GT500 to me so I have something to prove.

Are you adding FI to your car so you can "level" the GT500 playing field? That becomes apples to apples.

[sspaul]

Originally Posted by mmbarberoilman

There will always be someone faster than you in the next lane. Build your car to make YOU happy.

[JHart]

Originally Posted by sspaul

wordd. i agree.

the new 5.0 is stout by all means, but the camaro is just as stout. mod for mod, the new 5.0 just won't be able to compare, as ford has added little touches to bring out a good bit of power, while chevrolet's ls3 and l99's are so choked up from the factory 40 rwhp with just lt headers and a tune is the norm. i say bolt on for bolt on, the camaro will win. with 4.10 gears in the camaro, game over.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by hollywoodGU

I would rather have a V6 camaro that can outrun the GT500. Think about how embarassing that would be. Just gotta get a setup like JLeno haah

That will happen someday. I would bet on it.

[Riderover40]

Originally Posted by Monaco

Driver mod. In my opinion, because the Camaro runs a 12.9 stock in the quarter and Ford's new Mustang 5.0 runs a 13.2 (According to Motortrend magazine, I believe. I have 4 different magazines that came in the mail yesterday, but one focused on the 2011 Mustang and 2010 Camaro. Pretty sure it's Motortrend. Anyway...) just make sure you're the better shifter.

But either way, you're gonna want bolt-ons, like I did and still do
You can't go wrong with a CAI. Roto-Fab and the K&N Aircharger IMO give the biggest gains. Exhaust as well, and a tune/programmer wouldn't hurt.

As far as warranty is concerned, it depends if you install it yourself or if the dealer installs it. My dealer in Kendall installed my CAI, and I even bought my Diablo Predator tuner from them and applied it (which, btw, was a great buy. I feel better throttle response and more torque in 1st and 2nd gear. Sounds better, too.) they just told me to put the stock tune back in whenever I take it to a dealership for service.

I'm pretty sure my dealer would install exhaust, headers, etc. for me without voiding my warranty. (If you do this, keep a record that a Chevrolet dealership installed it.)

Hope this helps

Everything he says !! The SS already has the GT beat ! but you will want at least CAI ! Talk to your GM service depo, they may even agree to do a tune if you give them the package!

[Johnwayne]

when does that 5.0 come out? I need to just smoke one and get it over with *not on the street though*

[Carlos Garza]

the TVS2300 is actually a bolt on...

[SSINSTR]

This topic has been beaten to death but I feel that the GT500 vs SS comparo is a bit unfair...

#1 The Shelby is F/I with forged internals. That means that it has a much higher ceiling on stock motor than the SS and mod for mod will always win. Never mind that it already has 114 hp on the SS.

#2 Chevy's top dog doesn't exist yet. Yes you can call the SS the top model because the Z28 isn't out yet, but we all know it's coming. Did you really think GM would have released the SS as is if they weren't planning on building something in the future to compete with the GT500? The SS is just GM's interim champ.

#3 The SRT-8 and SS are comparable because they have similar hp and performance numbers. I don't think its fair to compare the R/T to the SS either, even though they fall around the same price point.

The SS and 5.0 are higher volume models than the Shelby and they compete on price and performance. When you are comparing "Top Dogs" your just arguing semantics.

Hopefully when the Z finally drops all these arguments will be put to rest

To the OP, sorry for getting off topic but as stated; gears, intake, and driver mod should take care of that 5.0

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by SSINSTR

This topic has been beaten to death but I feel that the GT500 vs SS comparo is a bit unfair...


#1 The Shelby is F/I with forged internals. That means that it has a much higher ceiling on stock motor than the SS and mod for mod will always win. Never mind that it already has 114 hp on the SS.
(they compared the SS with 111hp on the 2010 gt and nobody had a problem)

#2 Chevy's top dog doesn't exist yet. Yes you can call the SS the top model because the Z28 isn't out yet, but we all know it's coming. Did you really think GM would have released the SS as is if they weren't planning on building something in the future to compete with the GT500? The SS is just GM's interim champ.
(They are still comparning the top level current camaro to the mid level mustang any way you slice it)

#3 The SRT-8 and SS are comparable because they have similar hp and performance numbers. I don't think its fair to compare the R/T to the SS either, even though they fall around the same price point.
(This nullify's your point #2 where you are comparing top to mid, but now you are comparing top to top? and also goes against your point #1 since the 2010 Mustang did not have similar hp to the camaro, but i'm sure you were fine with that)
The SS and 5.0 are higher volume models than the Shelby and they compete on price and performance. When you are comparing "Top Dogs" your just arguing semantics.

Hopefully when the Z finally drops all these arguments will be put to rest

To the OP, sorry for getting off topic but as stated; gears, intake, and driver mod should take care of that 5.0

My thoughts in bold.

[Indy2010]

Originally Posted by Unfair

My thoughts in bold.

Intended market and price has everything to do with it. The GT and SS are in the same market competing for the same customers. The GT500 IS NOT on the same playing field as the SS. It is not intended for the same customer base, and it's performance expectations are different than the SS. For now, it is in a market segment on it's own.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by Indy2010

Intended market and price has everything to do with it. The GT and SS are in the same market competing for the same customers. The GT500 IS NOT on the same playing field as the SS. It is not intended for the same customer base, and it's performance expectations are different than the SS. For now, it is in a market segment on it's own.

Exactly and the same can be said about the SRT8 Challenger. It is much more closer to the GT500 in price. The Challenger R/T, Mustang GT and Camaro SS are classified in the same category by industry standards.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by wbt

Exactly and the same can be said about the SRT8 Challenger. It is much more closer to the GT500 in price. The Challenger R/T, Mustang GT and Camaro SS are classified in the same category by industry standards.

Then why are all the lastest test done with the srt8 when comparing the three?

[wbt]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Then why are all the lastest test done with the srt8 when comparing the three?

Cost = GT500
Performance = 2011 Mustang GT and Camaro SS

That is your answer. Until they upgrade the drivetrain to meet the GT500 and Z28 ability, they have to compare it to something competitive.

Do you propose they compare the Challenger R/T with the v-6 models?