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Old 05-16-2010, 04:45 PM   #29
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I'd take that bet. Even the fastest bolt on v6 camaros just broke into 13's. Anyway, I think optioning the cars to that level are just stupid. That 2.5k probably went toward navigation and possibly the glass roof, things that are not available on the camaro. I don't know who would spend 30k on either v6 model. IMO if you're going to spend that much, just get the v8!
Ok...so "squash", may not be the correct verb to use. But I'm certain $2.5k (8.2% of the cost of a $30.5k automobile) could close this gap:


Inside Line
Mustang - 13.9
Camaro - 14.2 (0.3)

Car and Driver
Mustang - 14.0
Camaro - 14.5 (0.5)

Motor Trends
Mustang - 13.7
Camaro - 14.4 (0.7)

Note: I agree with those who call magazines unreliable, but it's the only 'official' times I could compare. It is very obvious in some cases which magazines are biased.
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Old 05-27-2010, 03:53 PM   #30
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It went to gears, remote start, 18 rims and so on... There is nothing to talk about really until some real ppl buy v6 and go to track, cos paper wars and not very fair magazines are just childish.


About v8... well, for example, v8 will be 8-9k more for me, cos i needed to ship it to Europe and pay on our country custom. v6 is 2700 and for v8 i would pay 6k+ only to cross the border... Plus fuel, plus taxes, plus insurance. The best for me was to get v6 and put 5-6k for turbo, sc setup in the future, so il be as fast as v8 is with all options i needed and for 3-4k less in money. So if u ask who would spend 30k on either v6 model - its me.
Great point and well stated! i agree
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:21 PM   #31
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MUSTANG
Test car price: $32.975 (that $1k more than a base 1SS)

CAMARO
Test car price: $30,410

Who wants to bet... that with that $2.5K (extra cash you didn't spend on a Mustang) you could spend it on your Camaro mods and it would squash that Mustang in the 1/4 mile!

Personally, I wouldn't spend 30+k on a V-6 Camaro or Mustang! But the Camaro is by far the better deal!!!
The issue with that is, did the Mustang have options the Camaro does not even offer? If so, just remove the options to put them on equal footing optionswise and the Mustang should be the same price, possibly CHEAPER.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:34 PM   #32
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There are no such options, except of glass roof 2k vs camaro 1k power roof. Anyway, this stang didnt have one. If it would, then the price difference will be close to 2,5-3k. As i said, mustang with gears and same options, as camaro will be always more expensive, if its not the base ones. Then the price is the same. Theis no cheaper mustang with gears, v6 or v8.

Simply go to chevrolet.com and ford.com and build 2.
2lt and premium v6. Mustang in any case will be more expensive for 1-2к.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:44 PM   #33
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idk id have to agree you have an extra 2.5k for upgrades for the camaro i think it would either be running equal or little bit better than the mustang
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:49 PM   #34
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I read the car and driver article as well. I am sure that the new v6 mustang is a worthy competitor to our cars. Maybe it is a little quicker, but it will still be very much a driver's race. No doubt it is a nice car, I am just not a big fan of the styling. The only thing that suprises me is that every article I read keeps stating that the mustang v6 is limited at 113mph. So at least for the time being we have that advantage.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:54 PM   #35
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Ul need just cai - 300, headers - 400 + install - 300 = 1k. And ul be equal. Add 3.55 gears 600 + instal and ul be equal to 2008 gt at least in 0-60.
Its all about what u chose. Any of this cars can be a little bit faster in a same price category, if u need. And ofc we chose the sexiest one with a PROPER rear end, amazing old style design and independent suspension!
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:08 PM   #36
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Ul need just cai - 300, headers - 400 + install - 300 = 1k. And ul be equal. Add 3.55 gears 600 + instal and ul be equal to 2008 gt at least in 0-60.
Its all about what u chose. Any of this cars can be a little bit faster in a same price category, if u need. And ofc we chose the sexiest one with a PROPER rear end, amazing old style design and independent suspension!
How are you coming to that conclusion? Only one, bolt on v6 camaro has run a 13 so far. I'm not saying it's impossible, but that's a big assumption.
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:28 PM   #37
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At Camaro fest in Ga I ran the autocourse with my stock 1LT RS with man 6 and smoked the doors of almost all the v8's and ran competitve times agianst the vendor prepared cars. With time only allowing me 3 runs final run was a 37.8 avg times being posted were 43-44. Put a Mustang agianst me on a road course where all around performance comes into play and they will loose every time. Ford had to make a HUGH leap in performance with their POS just to be competitive with the Camaro. Driver skill is key wether it is 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile or road racing, but with out the right equipment it means nothing. For me the right equipment is the Camaro from price, performace and style guess that why you see Camaro always on top of the list when its all done and said with regardless of who is doing the survey. Sure you see Mustang win a catagory here and there but all around you can not beat what Chevy gives you with the Camaro.

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Old 05-27-2010, 06:07 PM   #38
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How are you coming to that conclusion? Only one, bolt on v6 camaro has run a 13 so far. I'm not saying it's impossible, but that's a big assumption.

Only one, cos v6 owners didnt pay + 6-10k for v8. They are not suppose to go to track offen or not at all

Well its pretty simple logic, the guy running high 13's with just cai and headers on AUTO. No tune or gears. Add gears and tune + cai and headers and regular driver like me will be in high 13's. But the guys, who know tracks will make it middle 13.s.
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Only one, cos v6 owners didnt pay + 6-10k for v8. They are not suppose to go to track offen or not at all

Well its pretty simple logic, the guy running high 13's with just cai and headers on AUTO. No tune or gears. Add gears and tune + cai and headers and regular driver like me will be in high 13's. But the guys, who know tracks will make it middle 13.s.
That be me and I'm back at Atco on sunday. I believe most guys on the bolt on list will be in the 13's in due time. There is nothing special about my car, well maybe an excellent driver.

I caught a good day, that's all. I don't lose sleep 'cause the new V6 stang might be a tenth or two faster, I could care less. My car is a beauty.
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There are no such options, except of glass roof 2k vs camaro 1k power roof. Anyway, this stang didnt have one. If it would, then the price difference will be close to 2,5-3k. As i said, mustang with gears and same options, as camaro will be always more expensive, if its not the base ones. Then the price is the same. Theis no cheaper mustang with gears, v6 or v8.

Simply go to chevrolet.com and ford.com and build 2.
2lt and premium v6. Mustang in any case will be more expensive for 1-2к.
Not only the glass roof, don't forget the sync system and in dash navigation, an actual performance package, etc, etc.
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Well, again. Camaro was 2lt with RS package. (1500 added) Stang was Premium v6 with navi (2300 added). The rest options was similar, anyway chevy still had 20" wheels coming with RS package and stang had standart painted 18"s. 800$ difference between rs and navi, but the price is 2.5k more, as tested. Its 1.7k difference in equal cars.
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