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superman · 08-07-2010, 08:50 PM

I feel bad for the sucker who buys that V6 manual you redlined multiple times.

No hard vs soft break in arguments please.

LoneCynic · 08-07-2010, 09:13 PM

Yeah, I was concerned with that when I went to buy my Camaro. Thankfully, when I test drove mine (Merely an M6 LS) I noticed it only had 5 mileage. I put 12.5 miles on it during my test drive, and when I went back two days later to buy it, the car had 18 mileage. So, all but 5.5 of the total mileage on my car was put on it by me. I'd dare say that 5.5 was from the manufacturer to the shipping truck, and the dealers moving inventory around the lot. I was probably the only test drive my Camaro ever saw before being purchased. So I got lucky I guess.

I would watch for that though if you buy off a lot like I did. If it has very many miles on it, it may have already been put through the wringer once or twice before you got to it. Who knows, maybe I was extremely lucky that the model/color/transmission/and mileage of mine all matched up to what I wanted right off the lot. Definitely something to think about for those still looking to buy.

YouseeSS · 08-07-2010, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee

The auto does have rev limiters w/ the "useless" paddles. TM is very limiting but a quick tune really opens it up. Traction control does not turn off TM... only a tune will do that. Bottom line is get the Auto tuned and you will have a beast...

And no warranty.

CynAgain · 08-07-2010, 09:33 PM

I have the LS3 and my husband has the L99. We each love our cars. Its a personal preference.

That said... hitting the rev limiter is no excuse to buy the L99.

A slight adjustment in your driving technique and this car will provide all the fun you want.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dion_1969

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

Just remembered when you go with the auto tranny it's hard to maintain a humble nature.

Just sayin,

Winning will make you cocky.

Sorry but http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=46 If you notice the top times are loaded with LS3's. I hate to ruin a a good delusion with a few facts.

just messing w/ ya

It never ends!

newagemuscle · 08-07-2010, 09:51 PM

I had the auto in my c6. Regardless if an auto is quicker at the track because of consistancy, it was boring as hell. Anyone that will argue that has never driven a stick. Keep in mind you don't live at the strip, so who cares anyways. If you dumb enough to street race, most races are from a roll and not a dead stop. Off a roll with a good driver the auto will lose to a M6. Get the stick. My 2 cents.

shank0668 · 08-07-2010, 09:56 PM

ill leave this here
1
nhra stocker
LS3
3/7/2010
1.972
8.195 @ 88.58 MPH
12.58 @ 110.30 MPH
263
2
2quick
LS3
1/10/10
1.955
8.204 @ 88.05 MPH
12.61 @ 111.60 MPH
188
3
blufin
LS3
3/19/10
1.926
8.246 @ 86.25 MPH
12.70 @ 111.07 MPH
373
4
Monte
LS3
4/24/10
2.012
8.329 @ 87.11 MPH
12.77 @ 110.98 MPH
410
5
b20
LS3
11/15/09
1.936
8.326 @ 85.02 MPH
12.81 @ 108.73MPH
details
6
376Camaro
LS3
7/3/10
2.163
8.438 @ 87.69 MPH
12.83 @ 113.27 MPH
502
7
8secpumpgasdad
L99
3/8/10
1.9059
8.321 @ 85.54 MPH
12.868 @ 108.7 MPH
270
8
speedy6963
LS3
7/17/09
2.046
8.409 @ 86.59 MPH
12.874 @ 109.08 MPH
10
9
8ty8 ls1
L99
10/20/2009
1.923
8.385 @ 83.54 MPH
12.971 @ 107.61 MPH
99
10
1stGM
L99
11/29/09
1.935
8.399 @ 85.09 MPH
12.985 @ 107.34 MPH
159
11
SSmokey
LS3
1/20/2010
2.106
8.559 @ 85.88 MPH
13.040 @ 110.80 MPH
202
12
NineBall
LS3
7/13/09
2.057
8.512 @ 85.13 MPH
13.07 @ 109.07 MPH
9
13
Kathy63
LS3
7/26/09
1.892
8.439 @ 83.76 MPH
13.07 @ 105.84 MPH
210
14
Jorux
LS3
4/08/10
2.142
8.597 @ 86.52 MPH
13.08 @ 111.49 MPH
351
15
Will69camaro
LS3
10/18/09
2.068
8.548 @ 84.65 MPH
13.09 @ 109.70 MPH
97
16
Malice
LS3
11/15/09
1.997
8.504 @ 83.57 MPH
13.10 @ 107.64 MPH
145
17
Dentyneice
LS3
11/27/09
2.156
8.638 @ 84.61 MPH
13.17 @ 109.77 MPH
171
18
gtwss
LS3
4/18/10
2.121
8.635 @ 85.00 MPH
13.17 @ 109.64 MPH
344
19
acatlover13
L99
11/27/09
2.036
8.568 @ 84.05 MPH
13.20 @ 105.99 MPH
169
20
Three-D
LS3
8/24/09
2.172
8.724 @ 84.88 MPH
13.25 @ 109.84 MPH
109
21
Matt (Tunetime)
L99

13.25 @ 106.42 MPH

22
Grand pa
L99
3/7/10
2.096
8.612 @ 83.72 MPH
13.274 @ 100.72 MPH
271
23
Foglin
LS3

13.28 @ 106.80 MPH

24
Scottywheels
L99
9/7/09
2.018
8.651 @ 83.17 MPH
13.28 @ 106.43 MPH
23
25
Amwells1
LS3

13.31 @ 107.0 MPH

26
SSARMY
L99
5/31/10
2.109
8.678 @ 83.31 MPH
13.31 @ 106.44 MPH
439
27
Midnight Maro
L99
11/1/09
2.018
8.653 @ 82.54 MPH
13.33 @ 105.52 MPH
117
28
GQ4life
LS3

13.36 @ 108.97 MPH

29
DarricSS
LS3
8/16/09
2.062
8.708 @ 82.76 MPH
13.37 @ 105.89 MPH
89
30
blake2010ss
LS3
4/18/10
2.110
8.770 @ 83.48 MPH
13.38 @ 107.72 MPH
345

Oldrocker · 08-07-2010, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traderfjp

So with an Auto I can apply my makeup that I keep in my European bag!

I guess I might as well cut off my sack too.

No need to cut off you sack, that is what us auto drivers hold on to when we drive. The stick driving guys.... well.... they have to make up for the lack of it somehow don't they?

traderfjp · 08-07-2010, 10:42 PM

I don't think I did damage since the rev limiter did its job and kept me from hurting the engine. Don't tell anyone but...... I've owned a SR5 Toyota pickup, a Tercel, a Supra, a Maxima, a BMW, and a Ford F250 that were manuals so I have some experience. However, I managed to stall the car at a light-not once but twice. A little embarassin. Gladly the guy behind me was patient and not on his horn. It was fun to shift through the gears. The paddle shifters weren't bad but I hate that the buttons are on the steering wheel. They should have put them on the gear changer.

I'm getting excited about gettting my car. I'm looking at a lease so I doubt I'll be modding the car. That really sucks. There is a chance I may get a 2010 with low miles. We'll see. I've been seeing some 2010's 2-ss/rs with low miles advertised for 29-30k. However, many are way overpriced since you can get a 2011 with a roof for about 37k.

traderfjp · 08-07-2010, 10:44 PM

Good point. Also, it's hard to put the moves on the ladies with your hand on the stick. I think it's suppose to be the other way around. Auto guys may have that part right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldrocker

No need to cut off you sack, that is what us auto drivers hold on to when we drive. The stick driving guys.... well.... they have to make up for the lack of it somehow don't they?

brantley847 · 08-07-2010, 11:31 PM

Did we really just post track times with 2x as many LS3s present? If you have an abundance of LS3s at the track with substantially less L99s, I would imagine there would be MORE LS3s posting times...not rocket science, just figured this was common sense. Guess not...

shank0668 · 08-07-2010, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brantley847

Did we really just post track times with 2x as many LS3s present? If you have an abundance of LS3s at the track with substantially less L99s, I would imagine there would be MORE LS3s posting times...not rocket science, just figured this was common sense. Guess not...

No those are the top stock times on the site. Theres more than that, that is the top 30.

2010 SSRS · 08-07-2010, 11:48 PM

nothing better than tapshifting.

jrc1122 · 08-08-2010, 12:16 AM

Am I missing something? How is it hard to not hit the rev limiter.. When you are in a Manual transmission car, you are in complete control of when you shift?

Day to day driving you really shouldn't be tach'ing that high anyway.

Sure it happens from time to time, but for you to think this would be a common problem, really just says you are unwilling to learn how to drive a M6 correctly.

Not being rude. I personally don't care which on someone has. If you have a 2010/11 SS you've already won most races. lol... But the Manual is a much better driver experience (IMO)

traderfjp · 08-08-2010, 12:25 AM

What's interesting on all the other car/trucks I owned I never hit a rev limit. Maybe those cars didn't have them...I'm not sure. I will be driving the car hard from time to time but for everday driving I should be fine. I guess I'll be watching the tach when i want to launch the car.

08-07-2010, 09:51 PM	#33
newagemuscle Philippians 4:13 Drives: SLP Supercharged LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Motor City - Michigan Posts: 2,902 View My Garage	I had the auto in my c6. Regardless if an auto is quicker at the track because of consistancy, it was boring as hell. Anyone that will argue that has never driven a stick. Keep in mind you don't live at the strip, so who cares anyways. If you dumb enough to street race, most races are from a roll and not a dead stop. Off a roll with a good driver the auto will lose to a M6. Get the stick. My 2 cents. __________________ Last edited by newagemuscle; 08-08-2010 at 07:02 AM.

08-07-2010, 11:31 PM	#38
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,580	Did we really just post track times with 2x as many LS3s present? If you have an abundance of LS3s at the track with substantially less L99s, I would imagine there would be MORE LS3s posting times...not rocket science, just figured this was common sense. Guess not... __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit.

08-07-2010, 11:48 PM	#40
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,186 View My Garage	nothing better than tapshifting. __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

08-08-2010, 12:16 AM	#41
jrc1122 Drives: 2012 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 1,358	Am I missing something? How is it hard to not hit the rev limiter.. When you are in a Manual transmission car, you are in complete control of when you shift? Day to day driving you really shouldn't be tach'ing that high anyway. Sure it happens from time to time, but for you to think this would be a common problem, really just says you are unwilling to learn how to drive a M6 correctly. Not being rude. I personally don't care which on someone has. If you have a 2010/11 SS you've already won most races. lol... But the Manual is a much better driver experience (IMO) __________________ 2012 Mustang GT Premium Performance White 6-speed Manual

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08-07-2010, 08:50 PM	#29
superman Drives: 2011 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: North Jersey Posts: 296	I feel bad for the sucker who buys that V6 manual you redlined multiple times. No hard vs soft break in arguments please.

08-07-2010, 09:13 PM	#30
LoneCynic Drives: 2015 BVM 1SS/1LE Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United States of America Posts: 457 View My Garage	Yeah, I was concerned with that when I went to buy my Camaro. Thankfully, when I test drove mine (Merely an M6 LS) I noticed it only had 5 mileage. I put 12.5 miles on it during my test drive, and when I went back two days later to buy it, the car had 18 mileage. So, all but 5.5 of the total mileage on my car was put on it by me. I'd dare say that 5.5 was from the manufacturer to the shipping truck, and the dealers moving inventory around the lot. I was probably the only test drive my Camaro ever saw before being purchased. So I got lucky I guess. I would watch for that though if you buy off a lot like I did. If it has very many miles on it, it may have already been put through the wringer once or twice before you got to it. Who knows, maybe I was extremely lucky that the model/color/transmission/and mileage of mine all matched up to what I wanted right off the lot. Definitely something to think about for those still looking to buy.

08-07-2010, 09:56 PM	#34
shank0668 Drives: '14 LML/'06 LJ/'76 Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,438 View My Garage	ill leave this here 1 nhra stocker LS3 3/7/2010 1.972 8.195 @ 88.58 MPH 12.58 @ 110.30 MPH 263 2 2quick LS3 1/10/10 1.955 8.204 @ 88.05 MPH 12.61 @ 111.60 MPH 188 3 blufin LS3 3/19/10 1.926 8.246 @ 86.25 MPH 12.70 @ 111.07 MPH 373 4 Monte LS3 4/24/10 2.012 8.329 @ 87.11 MPH 12.77 @ 110.98 MPH 410 5 b20 LS3 11/15/09 1.936 8.326 @ 85.02 MPH 12.81 @ 108.73MPH details 6 376Camaro LS3 7/3/10 2.163 8.438 @ 87.69 MPH 12.83 @ 113.27 MPH 502 7 8secpumpgasdad L99 3/8/10 1.9059 8.321 @ 85.54 MPH 12.868 @ 108.7 MPH 270 8 speedy6963 LS3 7/17/09 2.046 8.409 @ 86.59 MPH 12.874 @ 109.08 MPH 10 9 8ty8 ls1 L99 10/20/2009 1.923 8.385 @ 83.54 MPH 12.971 @ 107.61 MPH 99 10 1stGM L99 11/29/09 1.935 8.399 @ 85.09 MPH 12.985 @ 107.34 MPH 159 11 SSmokey LS3 1/20/2010 2.106 8.559 @ 85.88 MPH 13.040 @ 110.80 MPH 202 12 NineBall LS3 7/13/09 2.057 8.512 @ 85.13 MPH 13.07 @ 109.07 MPH 9 13 Kathy63 LS3 7/26/09 1.892 8.439 @ 83.76 MPH 13.07 @ 105.84 MPH 210 14 Jorux LS3 4/08/10 2.142 8.597 @ 86.52 MPH 13.08 @ 111.49 MPH 351 15 Will69camaro LS3 10/18/09 2.068 8.548 @ 84.65 MPH 13.09 @ 109.70 MPH 97 16 Malice LS3 11/15/09 1.997 8.504 @ 83.57 MPH 13.10 @ 107.64 MPH 145 17 Dentyneice LS3 11/27/09 2.156 8.638 @ 84.61 MPH 13.17 @ 109.77 MPH 171 18 gtwss LS3 4/18/10 2.121 8.635 @ 85.00 MPH 13.17 @ 109.64 MPH 344 19 acatlover13 L99 11/27/09 2.036 8.568 @ 84.05 MPH 13.20 @ 105.99 MPH 169 20 Three-D LS3 8/24/09 2.172 8.724 @ 84.88 MPH 13.25 @ 109.84 MPH 109 21 Matt (Tunetime) L99 13.25 @ 106.42 MPH 22 Grand pa L99 3/7/10 2.096 8.612 @ 83.72 MPH 13.274 @ 100.72 MPH 271 23 Foglin LS3 13.28 @ 106.80 MPH 24 Scottywheels L99 9/7/09 2.018 8.651 @ 83.17 MPH 13.28 @ 106.43 MPH 23 25 Amwells1 LS3 13.31 @ 107.0 MPH 26 SSARMY L99 5/31/10 2.109 8.678 @ 83.31 MPH 13.31 @ 106.44 MPH 439 27 Midnight Maro L99 11/1/09 2.018 8.653 @ 82.54 MPH 13.33 @ 105.52 MPH 117 28 GQ4life LS3 13.36 @ 108.97 MPH 29 DarricSS LS3 8/16/09 2.062 8.708 @ 82.76 MPH 13.37 @ 105.89 MPH 89 30 blake2010ss LS3 4/18/10 2.110 8.770 @ 83.48 MPH 13.38 @ 107.72 MPH 345

08-07-2010, 10:42 PM	#36
traderfjp Drives: Audi A4 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smithtown Posts: 49	I don't think I did damage since the rev limiter did its job and kept me from hurting the engine. Don't tell anyone but...... I've owned a SR5 Toyota pickup, a Tercel, a Supra, a Maxima, a BMW, and a Ford F250 that were manuals so I have some experience. However, I managed to stall the car at a light-not once but twice. A little embarassin. Gladly the guy behind me was patient and not on his horn. It was fun to shift through the gears. The paddle shifters weren't bad but I hate that the buttons are on the steering wheel. They should have put them on the gear changer. I'm getting excited about gettting my car. I'm looking at a lease so I doubt I'll be modding the car. That really sucks. There is a chance I may get a 2010 with low miles. We'll see. I've been seeing some 2010's 2-ss/rs with low miles advertised for 29-30k. However, many are way overpriced since you can get a 2011 with a roof for about 37k.

08-08-2010, 12:25 AM	#42
traderfjp Drives: Audi A4 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smithtown Posts: 49	What's interesting on all the other car/trucks I owned I never hit a rev limit. Maybe those cars didn't have them...I'm not sure. I will be driving the car hard from time to time but for everday driving I should be fine. I guess I'll be watching the tach when i want to launch the car.